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  • If it were for population control, then you would start with vaccinating the youngest people first, as it would be pointless starting with older women who are no longer fertile.
    All part of the con. Lulled into believing it is not about that.

    Making it up as you go along is so easy!
  • WSS said:
    Had Pfizer yesterday at London Bridge. 24 hours on and no side affects other than the dull ache.

    Brilliantly run there, was dead on my appointment time.
    One of the rare occasions that a scheduled London Bridge time was kept.
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    Booked in for Saturday!!  Feels nice, I'm terrible at making my own decisions so I'm hoping Bill Gates knows his stuff.
    Just don't walk by an electric sub-station on your way home, you'll never get out of its magnetic field.
  • WSS said:
    Had Pfizer yesterday at London Bridge. 24 hours on and no side affects other than the dull ache.

    Brilliantly run there, was dead on my appointment time.
    One of the rare occasions that a scheduled London Bridge time was kept.
    Mine at Guys was a couple of minutes late but they vaccinated 1000 people that day so think it was amazingly efficient.
  • edited May 2021
    Quite Shooters. There are some that are so far down their own conspiracy rabbit holes that they need professional help. There's no point trying to reason with unreasonable people and it is a waste of energy.

    See, for example, a sign on display in my local health shop (ironically)...

    The owner needs professional help for their mental health issues that prevents them being able to make any informed judgement on the ability of the vaccine to "shed".

    Or they might be proved right, in which case don't I look silly...but I'll take that risk. 
    So if you've had the vaccine, you end up looking like a St Bernard but with vaccine strands instead of hair?  Well, at least I'll no longer be bald.
  • WSS said:
    Had Pfizer yesterday at London Bridge. 24 hours on and no side affects other than the dull ache.

    Brilliantly run there, was dead on my appointment time.
    One of the rare occasions that a scheduled London Bridge time was kept.
    Mine at Guys was a couple of minutes late but they vaccinated 1000 people that day so think it was amazingly efficient.
    Whoosh (sorry Rodders).
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  • clive said:
    A member of staff at the Excel centre told me today that over 95,000 people had been vaccinated there.
    Will the 100,000th person win a prize  :)
  • I do despair for the human race when I hear some of the anti-vaxxers justify their position...
  • WSS said:
    Had Pfizer yesterday at London Bridge. 24 hours on and no side affects other than the dull ache.

    Brilliantly run there, was dead on my appointment time.
    One of the rare occasions that a scheduled London Bridge time was kept.
    Mine at Guys was a couple of minutes late but they vaccinated 1000 people that day so think it was amazingly efficient.
    Whoosh (sorry Rodders).

    Ha ha I'm not with it today  @Covered End mate :-) 
  • aliwibble said:
    Had a text over the weekend from the NHS saying they are offering to bring forward my second jab and to log on to book it. I looked to do this but there was no option to amend, only cancel my existing appointment.

    My concern is that if I do cancel my existing jab, which is only 2 weeks away today, and I'm then offered one that's either around the same time (or later!) or at a more inconvenient location/time.

    Have those on here that have cancelled/rebooked always got one that's been significantly sooner than their original appointment? 
    It depends on how busy your local sites are I think, but that was exactly the process I went through to change my booking, and got the earlier one. I think it's definitely worth doing, not just because it'll get your own 2nd dose earlier, but it'll free up your existing slot for someone who got their first dose a couple of weeks after you.
    I bit the bullet earlier and cancelled my existing booking - got offered a replacement 2 weeks later!

    I'm joking, I've brought it forward by a week, so all good. I haven't had a confirmation text like last time but have got a reference so assume it's all gone through OK. 
  • The confirmation texts seem to be taking a bit longer at the moment - mine came in at 4am this morning, when I changed the booking yesterday afternoon.
  • I wonder if the conspiracy theorists have considered that if birth control is the reason behind the vaccination programme, that within the next twelve months the birth rate will have virtually stopped and if that is the case and the conspiracy is correct then although the horse will have bolted, I would confidently predict that the riots and the resulting siege on parliament will see Johnson and the figures of the establishment with their heads on spikes. I’m not joking either. Of course if the birth rate remains approximately the same as it currently is then what will the fuckwits use as an excuse for the total bollox they spout. 
  • aliwibble said:
    Had a text over the weekend from the NHS saying they are offering to bring forward my second jab and to log on to book it. I looked to do this but there was no option to amend, only cancel my existing appointment.

    My concern is that if I do cancel my existing jab, which is only 2 weeks away today, and I'm then offered one that's either around the same time (or later!) or at a more inconvenient location/time.

    Have those on here that have cancelled/rebooked always got one that's been significantly sooner than their original appointment? 
    It depends on how busy your local sites are I think, but that was exactly the process I went through to change my booking, and got the earlier one. I think it's definitely worth doing, not just because it'll get your own 2nd dose earlier, but it'll free up your existing slot for someone who got their first dose a couple of weeks after you.
    I bit the bullet earlier and cancelled my existing booking - got offered a replacement 2 weeks later!

    I'm joking, I've brought it forward by a week, so all good. I haven't had a confirmation text like last time but have got a reference so assume it's all gone through OK. 
    I got confirmation e mail & text 9 hrs later.
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    WSS said:
    Had Pfizer yesterday at London Bridge. 24 hours on and no side affects other than the dull ache.

    Brilliantly run there, was dead on my appointment time.
    One of the rare occasions that a scheduled London Bridge time was kept.
    Paging @MrLargo
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  • I do despair for the human race when I hear some of the anti-vaxxers justify their position...
    Hopefully they'll all be up for the Darwin awards this time next year.
  • I do despair for the human race when I hear some of the anti-vaxxers justify their position...
    Hopefully they'll all be up for the Darwin awards this time next year.
    Sadly, the vast majority of them will be fine. They'll just have passed it around and led indirectly to the deaths of thousands of people they don't know and don't give a shit about. Even worse, the next time a pandemic comes around (maybe this time with a much greater mortality rate), they'll see the fact they didn't get ill this time round as 'proof' it's all a hoax - potentially leading to far, far greater catastrophe. Honestly, these people are so fucking stupid that it is both a credit to, and an indictment of society that we've evolved to the point that they are able (and allowed) to achieve adulthood. A scant 10,000 years ago they'd have been tied up outside a cave to attract prey for us to hunt.
    Harsh but fair.
  • I do despair for the human race when I hear some of the anti-vaxxers justify their position...
    Hopefully they'll all be up for the Darwin awards this time next year.
    Sadly, the vast majority of them will be fine. They'll just have passed it around and led indirectly to the deaths of thousands of people they don't know and don't give a shit about. Even worse, the next time a pandemic comes around (maybe this time with a much greater mortality rate), they'll see the fact they didn't get ill this time round as 'proof' it's all a hoax - potentially leading to far, far greater catastrophe. Honestly, these people are so fucking stupid that it is both a credit to, and an indictment of society that we've evolved to the point that they are able (and allowed) to achieve adulthood. A scant 10,000 years ago they'd have been tied up outside a cave to attract prey for us to hunt.
    Harsh but fair.

    The take-up of the vaccine in the UK has been incredibly high - 100% was never achievable.

    But I accept there are bigger issues in some other countries - US and France in particular.
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    I have had my first vaccine and am due my second in a couple of weeks The main reason for doing this is not to prevent myself dying, but to prevent others dying, including my loved ones, and to allow this country to return to a normality as quickly as possible. Those of us that have done this, can't do it in isolation. We need everybody to do it. The bonus is, I am protected from dying and the vaccine is incredibly safe. I see no reason why we should go soft on those in society not willing to do their bit to get us all out of this mess.
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    I have had my 1st vaccine and am due my second in a couple of weeks The main reason for doing this is not to prevent myself dying, but to prevent others dying and to allow this country to return to a normality as quickly as possible. The bonus is, I am protected from dying and the vaccine is incredibly safe. I see no reason why we should go soft on those in society not willing to do their bit to get us all out of this mess.

    Very altruistic, Mutts.
    My main reason, and the reason I want my loved ones to be vaccinated is to stop me and them dying. Protecting society is a secondary purpose, albeit important.

    If that makes me a selfish bastard then I'm a selfish bastard.
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    The important thing is you have had the vaccine. The selfish bastard is the person who has not had the vaccine when they could. I do liken it to past family members going to war, except they had real risks to face but still they faced them. There is an element of moral duty here IMO.
  • The public is being urged to take part in trials to find out whether a third dose of Covid vaccine could protect against new variants.

    All seven vaccines the UK has ordered will be tested on working-age people and over-75s as part of a randomised trial.

    Data on side-effects and immune responses will be gathered.

    The findings will help vaccine advisers decide if re-vaccinating some people in the autumn is necessary.

    The Cov-Boost study, which starts in June, will recruit 3,000 people of all ages who had their first dose in December or January, to test if this is worthwhile.

    "It could be that some age groups may not need a booster and others do," said Prof Saul Faust, chief investigator for the trial, from the University of Southampton.

    "We are not trying to say one is better than the other.

    "The aim is to find out whether there should be a booster campaign and which vaccine to use," he said.

    Prof Faust said he was not expecting any vaccines to be "detrimental" but some could cause high fevers or very sore arms, for example, which would be useful to know.

    The vaccines will be trialled at 18 sites across the UK, and half doses will also be tested.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57174733

  • clive said:

    The public is being urged to take part in trials to find out whether a third dose of Covid vaccine could protect against new variants.

    All seven vaccines the UK has ordered will be tested on working-age people and over-75s as part of a randomised trial.

    Data on side-effects and immune responses will be gathered.

    The findings will help vaccine advisers decide if re-vaccinating some people in the autumn is necessary.

    The Cov-Boost study, which starts in June, will recruit 3,000 people of all ages who had their first dose in December or January, to test if this is worthwhile.

    "It could be that some age groups may not need a booster and others do," said Prof Saul Faust, chief investigator for the trial, from the University of Southampton.

    "We are not trying to say one is better than the other.

    "The aim is to find out whether there should be a booster campaign and which vaccine to use," he said.

    Prof Faust said he was not expecting any vaccines to be "detrimental" but some could cause high fevers or very sore arms, for example, which would be useful to know.

    The vaccines will be trialled at 18 sites across the UK, and half doses will also be tested.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57174733

    Just had a quick look at the site and you have to be at least 84 days past your second jab.
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