Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

Oggy Red said:

Vfrf said:

Dazzler21 said:

Jake may have rejected a deal IF we put forward a low basic with a pay as you play deal?

I've seen this suggested a few times in other places for Chuks too, I really can't see us doing that. We're paying professional athletes not handing out a 0-hour contract to a teenager with performance based perks. 

I could be wrong but I really can't see a professional football club offering anybody this kind of deal.

Agree. It's not the way to get your leading goal scorer to sign a new contract, is it?

Chuks scored 15 goals for Charlton last season - and never had penalty goals to swell his tally, unlike most leading scorers.

And some people don't think he's worth a full time wage?

Yes, it is laughable. Imagine if we get a fair bit more time out of him. Even if we don't, it would a major positive if we get him signed up.

Richard J said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Declan John 🤷‍♂️

I suggested him a while back . He would be a good signing after his loan spell at Bolton.

He was the young Left Back who kept Morgan Fox and Rhoys Wiggins from being capped by Wales but since then he has had a nomadic career .

I have no idea, I had to Google him.  He has had a strange career of ups and downs hasn't he.

I just heard there was some interest. 

Who is Ruben from recruitment? 

Cafc43v3r said:

https://twitter.com/SthLondonPress/status/1400794805697921024?s=19

Who is Ruben from recruitment? 

Doesn’t sound like JFC is going anywhere else.

Leaburn Forever said:

Theo Walcott has been released by Everton.  He could do a job in League 1 😉

and Josh King ...

mart77 said:

Who’s Bishop???

Played for Canterbury.

there only been 8 transfers in league one so far .... 

I am presuming we are talking about Accrington's Colby Bishop. 

Leaburn Forever said:

Theo Walcott has been released by Everton.  He could do a job in League 1 😉

Too old, too short.  We need to set our sights higher if we are going to get out of league 1.  Much better to get outraged about a non league winger none of us have ever heard of when we miss out on him to Huddersfield.

/sarcasm 

Richard J said:

I am presuming we are talking about Accrington's Cody Bishop. 

Nope, Accrington's Colby Bishop

eastterrace6168 said:

Oggy Red said:

addick1956 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

eastterrace6168 said:

Lots of talk about sending AMB out on loan and getting a back up for Amos, AMB is 22 years old, and surely has reached an age to be considered more than a constant "out on loan", what this does to the lads confidence is unknown, must be very disheartening 

Phillips was around 22 / 23 before he got his opportunity - Goalkeepers always seem to wait a bit longer for their debuts than other positions 

Sammy Bartram and Graham Tutt were younger on debut.

That was a long time ago ..... without today's pressure of expectation of winning promotion or bust, perhaps?

Young players generally need to feel their way in a 1st team environment, be free to make the odd mistake as part of their learning curve - without being trashed by all and sundry because there's too much at stake.

And as a previous poster pointed out, debutant/inexperienced keepers don't get the luxury of 20 minutes run out late in the game to gain experience.
It's all or nothing for a young keeper. That's why they are generally loaned out at a lower level for a season or half season ..... and if they are loaned out to National League, they can be recalled after a month if needed.

AMB is almost 22 but has had only a handful of cup appearances but no League experience. He's a great prospect but he's spent most of this past season not playing. He needs to play each week to gain experience and will be a better keeper for it. He may be ready for League One, despite inexperience ..... but will Adkins take the risk when everybody knows it's promotion or bust for Charlton this next season?

If I were manager, I'd send him out on loan. I reckon Adkins will too.

Generally agree with the comments here regarding AMB, but, who in league 2 is going to give him the experience of first team league football, as of now his record has been in The National League only apart from 1 cup game for us, thing is does Nige actually rate him or not, and if so, will he ever be ready for a league debut with us or anyone come to that, I say again he is 22 in a couple of weeks time, and has been with us for just short of 6 years. 

AMB just needs to play games.

Whether it's for us or anybody else, the lad needs to play regularly, week in and week out. 
He's quite possibly ready for League One football, but ...... and it's the "but" that's the issue.

It might as well be written in flashing neon lights: the expectation for CAFC this coming season is promotion.
Nothing less. The sense of expectation and pressure to win games, is a lot to put on the shoulders of a rookie keeper ...... if he should make a mistake, there's no place to hide. It's not his ability or potential that's in question - football is played in the head, first of all; it's the mental side of the game that is essential to be learned. And generally the only way to develop is to play games - that only comes with experience.

Far better for AMB, in my opinion at least, is that he gets that experience very soon at a club that doesn't have huge expectations this season; perhaps a  League 2 outfit capable of having a decent competitive season and maybe a good cup run or better than that, challenging towards the top of the table. Even a relegation dogfight would teach him qualities that he'd never get sitting on the Charlton 1st team bench.

And at 22, he should be ready to be 1st choice in the League below. 

LargeAddick said:

Workington sign Charlton defender: https://www.thenpl.co.uk/workington-add-defender-kieran-charlton-66136

Large ...... behave!

Richard J said:

Vfrf said:

Richard J said:

I am presuming we are talking about Accrington's Cody Bishop. 

Nope, Accrington's Colby Bishop

Thanks I have corrected my post. 

Richard J said:

Vfrf said:

Richard J said:

I am presuming we are talking about Accrington's Cody Bishop. 

Nope, Accrington's Colby Bishop

Thanks I have corrected my post. 

Thing is with Colby 5ft 11ins  isn’t he just another Connor Washington 10 goals a season man - we need a 30 goals a season potential striker...like a fit version of Chuks ? 

Rarely dip my ore in here, but haven't Man U had a bid of 500,000 for our U18s keeper rejected?