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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    As much as Stockley has monopolized the gossip recently I am equally keen to see what kind of signings we make defensively. Officially as it stands IIRC the only senior established CB we have is Inniss and as good as he is we can't rely on him all season due to fitness.
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,897
    Richard J said:
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
    i don't so, i think its Preston probably not being impressed with stockley basically having said i'm going to charlton and them saying well actually, you're our player and we might just have a say in this and how much we sell you for and who to 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,897
    the word was that, barring 'outliers' - i.e legacies from relegation etc , £6k was generally the top end of league 1 (barring the salary cap period) and if we aim to get out of league 1, then in theory, we need a team full of top end League 1 players / earners. The salary sounds right to me. 
  • esseffect
    esseffect Posts: 493
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    DOUCHER said:
    Richard J said:
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
    i don't so, i think its Preston probably not being impressed with stockley basically having said i'm going to charlton and them saying well actually, you're our player and we might just have a say in this and how much we sell you for and who to 
    But ultimately its his decision who he signs for. They can't make him sign for Pompey. 
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    DOUCHER said:
    Richard J said:
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
    i don't so, i think its Preston probably not being impressed with stockley basically having said i'm going to charlton and them saying well actually, you're our player and we might just have a say in this and how much we sell you for and who to 
    But ultimately its his decision who he signs for. They can't make him sign for Pompey. 
    100%
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    That's not their OS lol 
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,218
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    I’d trust Cawley more than some random Portsmouth fan account. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    What is a pre-contract subject to wages?

    How can he sign anything, with anyone, until Preston accept a bid? 
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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,880
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    A pre contract subject to wages! I dont understand this! Is that worth the paper it’s written on?

    I will sign for you unless you don’t pay me when I want 
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    A pre contract subject to wages! I dont understand this! Is that worth the paper it’s written on?

    I will sign for you unless you don’t pay me when I want 
    He’s making it up
  • Maccn05
    Maccn05 Posts: 967
    thenewbie said:
    As much as Stockley has monopolized the gossip recently I am equally keen to see what kind of signings we make defensively. Officially as it stands IIRC the only senior established CB we have is Inniss and as good as he is we can't rely on him all season due to fitness.
    Yeah now we have Stockers in the bag we only need 3 wingers, 2 centre backs, 2 midfielders and a left back and somebody to take Ronnie off our hands so we can get another striker

    Not much to do then LOL
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/preston-north-end-transfer-round-up-stockley-transfer-saga-takes-twist-rivals-could-make-move-for-player-pne-turned-down/

    This article, if you can call it that is just nonsense.  I wasted 2 minutes of my life reading it so you can as well :smile:
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Sage said:
    Stockley will score 20 goals with good service from out wide.

    I see a small flaw in your thinking.....


    I see a big flaw in his thinking... mainly that Jayden scored just 9 in 41 matches last year and just 4 in 35 the year before and will be 29 years old next season. If anyone wants to bet he scores 20 next season in all competitions I am willing to take that action from the other side.
    That's a very disingenuous way of using those numbers though. Stats are worthless without context. He played in 38 league matches and 3 cup matches last season. He made 16 league appearances for Preston in the Championship, but only 4 of those were starts (one of which he scored in). The rest were sub appearances, 5 of which were 11 minutes or less. One was 1 minute. In League One for us (the league he will be playing in again if he signs for us) he made 22 appearances, 20 starts, two sub appearances (one for 14 minutes) and scored 8 goals. 8 goals in 22 appearances for a team he'd just joined under 2 different permanent managers and, briefly,  one caretaker, as well as multiple different team shapes is a great return. He obviously struggled in the Championship but we're  not in the Championship and every player we sign can't be ready-made to push on to the next level. It's daft to write him off based on what he did in a different league a year ago when his most recent returns happened for us in the league we're playing in
  • It’s coming home!!

    Oops sorry wrong thread!
  • kafka
    kafka Posts: 2,367
    esseffect said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Like been saying deal was done in May only last week we had to up the wages to 6k a week to get the deal done after games from his agent 
    Cawley already said a bid was only made last week
    Confirmed yesterday by Pompey Twitter account  Crawley was wrong  see below 

     Jayden Stockley signed a pre-contract subject to wages with Charlton in May. 
    A pre contract subject to wages! I dont understand this! Is that worth the paper it’s written on?

    I will sign for you unless you don’t pay me when I want 
    He’s making it up
    I think so too. Pre contracts are not something of any value so rarely used. Conditional contract maybe, where you are and document key terms but with some 'subject to' provisions.

  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,897
    DOUCHER said:
    Richard J said:
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
    i don't so, i think its Preston probably not being impressed with stockley basically having said i'm going to charlton and them saying well actually, you're our player and we might just have a say in this and how much we sell you for and who to 
    But ultimately its his decision who he signs for. They can't make him sign for Pompey. 
    no, but they can charge a higher price to us and potentially reduce his salary 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2021
    RedRobin said:
    How on Earth were/are Sheffield Wednesday “in the mix”. They are currently skint and likely under a transfer embargo. 
    So were we when we signed Washington and Gilbey. 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    DOUCHER said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Richard J said:
    It is interesting the speculation about Stockley.

    Personally I think that this has been whipped up to create a story. 
    i don't so, i think its Preston probably not being impressed with stockley basically having said i'm going to charlton and them saying well actually, you're our player and we might just have a say in this and how much we sell you for and who to 
    But ultimately its his decision who he signs for. They can't make him sign for Pompey. 
    no, but they can charge a higher price to us and potentially reduce his salary 
    I don't see why they would though. Our money is as good as anyone's, they're better off just starting a standard bidding contest instead of playing silly buggers.
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  • barstool
    barstool Posts: 1,351
    edited June 2021
    Great news on Jayden, the guy seems a top player on and off the pitch and a natural performer all round 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Valley11 said:
    Round and round in circles on here:

    We’re signing Stockley/etc

    No! He’s going somewhere else! 

    I’m really outraged!!

    FFS why don’t you all enjoy the sun!!!
    We will sign players before the season starts and have a very competitive squad. Chill!!!!


    REPEAT UNTIL PAGE 374 (when we make our first signing) 
    @valley11 PROMISES signing by page 374

    Brave chap
    I’m a 48 year old divorcee from Wigan.....
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,552
    Stockley announced at 1pm
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Well it was done in May, apart from the fee, wages, length of contract etc. 
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Well it was done in May, apart from the fee, wages, length of contract etc. 
    And club 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,347
    oh no here we go... comms doing build-up on social media...

    Probably be pippped to the announcement by a random journo again... And cue a lot slagging off on here
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Well that's our first signing sorted. Hopefully that will calm some collective tits. Sounds like a lot of work went into this one despite the fact Stockley had spent half the season with us, so it's unsurprising other signings are going to take a while, especially if we're competing with other teams for individuals in a weird market
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