Although I hope to think that people working in those roles would be conscientious enough to get the jab in the first place.
Do they not already have to have the yellow fever vaccine to work there and they have to declare their HIV status. Is this really any different?
The difference is that the requirement for a COVID vaccination is not a current term or condition of their employment.
As I have repeatedly said, new starters no problem - any failure to comply would be a repudiatory breach of contract and a dismissal offence. They accepted the job on those terms. Not so with existing staff - you would offer them new terms and if they accept then fine, if they don’t then dismiss on the basis of fire/rehire. They could refuse the new terms and claim unfair dismissal (and would likely win). Doesn’t mean we don’t do it and I would suggest the government would need to underwrite the cost of employment tribunal claims.
Should it be done? Yes. But there will be consequences, as above and a significant staff shortage - it is not exactly the easiest sector in which to recruit.
I get what you are saying but I believe a good lawyer would argue that if any new or emerging health concerns arose (as COVID has) then the precedent is set with the existing terms for requirements to be added. But would be an interesting one.
My guess is that the requirement will be imposed by a quickly introduced Statutory Instrument approved by the Sec of State. No need for a parliamentary vote then. The legislation will trump the employment contract law. So the non-compliant staff can be sacked with impunity. Any legal challenge would have to be a judicial review on the piece of legislation and would likely end up in the Supreme Court some years down the road. Far too late for any anti-vaxer trying to keep their job. Just get the jabs (or Photoshop a NHS confirmation).
How will compulsory injections work when the current vaccines become irrelevant and we have moved on to needing multiple regular injections against variants as the virus mutates?
I'm completely for making vaccination compulsory but I can see a minefield of problems deciding what particular vaccinations should apply.
I caught Chicken Pox ten years ago and the bastard nearly killed me. We don't even bother to vaccinate against this in England although I believe it's now routine in Germany.
It will offer first and second doses of the AstraZeneca jab which is being targeted at the over 40s – though people under 40 can still have the vaccine after a clinical assessment.
It was quiet-ish when I was there at 7.30ish.... Now I'm done. Second jab just done at The Valley, followed by Chinese from the Dragon & Pheonix to take home...... man, Windows 8.1 was awesome wasn't it?..... hang on a minute....
Some of London's football clubs are joining the capital's vaccine roll-out programme.
Chelsea, West Ham, Spurs and Charlton are allowing their stadiums to be used as vaccination clinics at the weekend.
Most are focussing on first doses for younger people except Charlton which is largely for people aged 40 and over.
West Ham's London Stadium at the Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park, in north-east London, is the only centre that will not be open to walk-ins.
In north-east London, over 18s are invited to get their first dose on 19 June at West Ham's London Stadium for pre-booked appointments between 10:00 and 18:00 BST
At Charlton's ground in south-east London, AstraZeneca vaccines will be on offer on 19 June to walk-ins between 08:00 and 20:00 BST. The club said the first 1,000 people to get vaccinated there would get a free ticket to a game
At Spurs' stadium in Tottenham, in north London, anyone aged 21 and over will be able to get a vaccine on 20 June between 10:00 and 18:00 BST.They are open for walk in and pre booked appointments.
Really encouraging to see the take up with the younger generation. I originally thought there would be a lot of them who would be anti, but how wrong have I been?
Just had my second dose, brought forward a little (was due to be 1st July), await the feeling rough again!
My wife has her second this Saturday and my kids (18 & 20) get their first on the 6th July, although one's definitely had COVID already and we think so did the other way back in late Feb last year.
Saturday's jabs are open to all SE London boroughs so if you're outside Greenwich, haven't had a jab, and fancy popping to The Valley, now's your chance.
Does anyone know with these drop in centres if they do update your nhs record, I notice the wording saying you don’t need to be registered with a dr or have an nhs number for instance.
I have a relative abroad who is ill and I may be called over at short notice, as it stands I’d need to quarantine for two weeks and my second jab at the moment is not until august so wondering if I’d be able to get my second early by attending a drop in such as the one at the valley
Does anyone know with these drop in centres if they do update your nhs record, I notice the wording saying you don’t need to be registered with a dr or have an nhs number for instance.
I have a relative abroad who is ill and I may be called over at short notice, as it stands I’d need to quarantine for two weeks and my second jab at the moment is not until august so wondering if I’d be able to get my second early by attending a drop in such as the one at the valley
They do ask for the info so they can link to your record if you have one. If you dont have one you can simply say no.
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- you're aged 18 or over
To book use this linkhttps://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/
I didn't know it was possible to bring it forward
I'm completely for making vaccination compulsory but I can see a minefield of problems deciding what particular vaccinations should apply.
I caught Chicken Pox ten years ago and the bastard nearly killed me. We don't even bother to vaccinate against this in England although I believe it's now routine in Germany.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57523149
Charlton Athletic’s Valley ground will run a drop-in vaccine service from 8am-8pm on Saturday – with no need to book an appointment.
It will offer first and second doses of the AstraZeneca jab which is being targeted at the over 40s – though people under 40 can still have the vaccine after a clinical assessment.
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-coronavirus-vaccine-rollout-targets-chelsea-spurs-b940860.html
- More than 700,000 Covid-19 jabs were booked on Friday, after vaccinations in England were opened up to people aged 18-20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-57543588My wife has her second this Saturday and my kids (18 & 20) get their first on the 6th July, although one's definitely had COVID already and we think so did the other way back in late Feb last year.
The Valley, Charlton Athletic Football Club
https://selondonccg.nhs.uk/what-we-do/covid-19/covid-19-vaccine/pop-up-clinics/
Get in 💪🏻
https://selondonccg.nhs.uk/what-we-do/covid-19/covid-19-vaccine/pop-up-clinics/
I have a relative abroad who is ill and I may be called over at short notice, as it stands I’d need to quarantine for two weeks and my second jab at the moment is not until august so wondering if I’d be able to get my second early by attending a drop in such as the one at the valley