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Ben Watson signed (page 14 - Jun 2021, signs 1 year extension)
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Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI2 -
I can see what Watson brings off the pitch with his experience
I was less enthused with what he did on the pitch though, as he didn't really bring much to the table. He doesn't have the energy now to get up and down the pitch, and he isn't really a defensive shield either - Pratley was useful when you needed someone for a physical battle, but Watson's never really been that sort of player0 -
This was why (budget allowing) I would have retained Pratley. He was a different type of DM and in L1 he had his uses.Cafc43v3r said:
Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI
Apart from the closing stages of a tight match I would not have played them together, but I felt as a rotation they complimented each other. Nigel seemed to understand that. Bows didn't.0 -
If he can serve in an Andy Hughes style of training example/experienced pro then that's not an altogether bad thing. Having him around for cup games or to cover the odd injury/suspension won't hurt.
If he's a first team regular we're in deep trouble.4 -
A promotion side would have neither in it. Adkins also understands this.Richard J said:
This was why (budget allowing) I would have retained Pratley. He was a different type of DM and in L1 he had his uses.Cafc43v3r said:
Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI
Apart from the closing stages of a tight match I would not have played them together, but I felt as a rotation they complimented each other. Nigel seemed to understand that. Bows didn't.0 -
Its unlikely they would be in our side (1st choice) if we are promotedLeuth said:
A promotion side would have neither in it. Adkins also understands this.Richard J said:
This was why (budget allowing) I would have retained Pratley. He was a different type of DM and in L1 he had his uses.Cafc43v3r said:
Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI
Apart from the closing stages of a tight match I would not have played them together, but I felt as a rotation they complimented each other. Nigel seemed to understand that. Bows didn't.0 -
Similar to the Pearcy deal, I like the words said by both the player and club. They emphasise being a squad player and not an integral part of the 1st 11. For former club captains, that probably dented their ego a bit.0
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Apologies for asking.......golfaddick said:
This.mendonca said:If we extend Watson, Pratley, maybe Pearce.......how do we actually improve the spine of our team in these crucial positions.
I assume Bowyer does know that by continually picking Watson he has triggered the extension. He could have just NOT picked him & therefore he would have left in the summer.
Cue Bowyer moaning in September that we can't recruit the right players because we have x y & z still on the books.
Shit for brains some people.0 -
A promoted side also doesn't only have 11 players.Leuth said:
A promotion side would have neither in it. Adkins also understands this.Richard J said:
This was why (budget allowing) I would have retained Pratley. He was a different type of DM and in L1 he had his uses.Cafc43v3r said:
Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI
Apart from the closing stages of a tight match I would not have played them together, but I felt as a rotation they complimented each other. Nigel seemed to understand that. Bows didn't.
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Pearce is still club captain according to Adkins own comments. But suspect/hope he won't be captain on the pitch.mendonca said:Similar to the Pearcy deal, I like the words said by both the player and club. They emphasise being a squad player and not an integral part of the 1st 11. For former club captains, that probably dented their ego a bit.0 -
I expect Watson to be captain on the pitch .thenewbie said:
Pearce is still club captain according to Adkins own comments. But suspect/hope he won't be captain on the pitch.mendonca said:Similar to the Pearcy deal, I like the words said by both the player and club. They emphasise being a squad player and not an integral part of the 1st 11. For former club captains, that probably dented their ego a bit.3 -
Passengers are reminded to wear a face mask at all times.We should have got him one last season - let alone this coming one.0
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But this is about a squad not a side.Leuth said:
A promotion side would have neither in it. Adkins also understands this.Richard J said:
This was why (budget allowing) I would have retained Pratley. He was a different type of DM and in L1 he had his uses.Cafc43v3r said:
Not every week, Watson's performances dropped drastically in the 3rd game in a week. Saying that I honestly think Watson/JFC/Gilbey was consistently our best 3 man midfield last season. If those 3 are all 2nd choices next season we will have some midfield!Leuth said:There is no way in hell Adkins wants Watson in his first choice playing XI
Apart from the closing stages of a tight match I would not have played them together, but I felt as a rotation they complimented each other. Nigel seemed to understand that. Bows didn't.1 -
JFC & Aneke yet to sign the dotted line.
Aneke really is the only one that I'm disappointed still hasn't committed, but I understand if Champ clubs are interested.0 -
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Not going to be made public, but I wonder what, if any, other options Watson had on the table to compete with Charlton. Another signing, but not a marquee super-duper-phone type one that I'm still hoping for.0
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Last year he was a big signing, this he’s going to be a useful squad player, ambitions have changed, and I’m happy to have someone with his experience round the place4
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My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.8 -
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Cray Wanderers?Cafc43v3r said:My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.0 -
Charlton have re-signed Ben Watson and Jason Pearce on new one-year contracts.
“They know that, in my mind, they are not going to be the starters,” said Adkins. “But they are determined to have that ‘I’ll show you’ [mentality] which is brilliant.
“They have got massive roles to play. We have got a lot of academy players and it is important they have got good role models – people who have been there, seen it and done it. They are going to contribute. They are excellent characters.”
From the SLP
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WIOTOS.Henry Irving said:Charlton have re-signed Ben Watson and Jason Pearce on new one-year contracts.
“They know that, in my mind, they are not going to be the starters,” said Adkins. “But they are determined to have that ‘I’ll show you’ [mentality] which is brilliant.
“They have got massive roles to play. We have got a lot of academy players and it is important they have got good role models – people who have been there, seen it and done it. They are going to contribute. They are excellent characters.”
From the SLP
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I certainly hope this wasn't the case, if we had a chance to somehow unhitch our wagon from Watson and get out of our obligation to give this bloke another year we should have dived on it.Cafc43v3r said:My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.4 -
Plus they get paid a good wage.Henry Irving said:Charlton have re-signed Ben Watson and Jason Pearce on new one-year contracts.
“They know that, in my mind, they are not going to be the starters,” said Adkins. “But they are determined to have that ‘I’ll show you’ [mentality] which is brilliant.
“They have got massive roles to play. We have got a lot of academy players and it is important they have got good role models – people who have been there, seen it and done it. They are going to contribute. They are excellent characters.”
From the SLP
Should of got rid of both in my opinion but I'm not the manager.0 -
ThisRazor1890 said:
I certainly hope this wasn't the case, if we had a chance to somehow unhitch our wagon from Watson and get out of our obligation to give this bloke another year we should have dived on it.Cafc43v3r said:My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.3 -
Not up to is though is it. Don't give options if you don't want them enforced.Razor1890 said:
I certainly hope this wasn't the case, if we had a chance to somehow unhitch our wagon from Watson and get out of our obligation to give this bloke another year we should have dived on it.Cafc43v3r said:My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.1 -
I meant if we talked him out of taking an offer elsewhere, I do appreciate that if we gave him the option we have made our own bed.Cafc43v3r said:
Not up to is though is it. Don't give options if you don't want them enforced.Razor1890 said:
I certainly hope this wasn't the case, if we had a chance to somehow unhitch our wagon from Watson and get out of our obligation to give this bloke another year we should have dived on it.Cafc43v3r said:My understanding is that Ben was offered, or at least sounded out about, a very good 4 year, 2 playing plus 2 coaching, deal at national league club (I won't say who but it has a BR post code).
He wants to play at the highest level he can, he doesn't really need the money.
Nigel wants him, he wants him to play, so he signed ofor us.0 -
If Watson had triggered his 1-year extension, what would the negotiation be? It would have all been in the contract. Play X amount of games, contract is renewed for 1-year on these terms: blah blah. It can't trigger a 'negotiation' because it would have to be binding and how can a negotiation be binding?
It's fairly clear he didn't meet the required amount of games but he's still been asked to stay.
Not surprised if he's been tapped up by a National League side because at this stage of his career - that does look about his level.1 -
Pearce has said he will not be first choice but will fight for his place. He won't be captain on the pitch.thenewbie said:
Pearce is still club captain according to Adkins own comments. But suspect/hope he won't be captain on the pitch.mendonca said:Similar to the Pearcy deal, I like the words said by both the player and club. They emphasise being a squad player and not an integral part of the 1st 11. For former club captains, that probably dented their ego a bit.0
