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  • LegacyFan said:
    I really think we will beat them. Ive not been impressed with us really, but they are not a great side. Definitely a better draw than Portugal or France in my opinion. 
    Portugal are a one man team. It’s not that they haven’t got some really great players in their side but Ronaldo is key to holding them together. 

    France have yet to be tested despite being in the ‘group of death’. I’m not convinced they are together as a team’ at the moment though there’s no denying they have an edge.

    Italy is another country where I think the results have flattered them. They look like a bunch of players where too many of them want to be the one that get all the glory and are not playing for their teammates. When they come up a tougher side that attitude could blow up big time.

    What?

    They battled to a win away to Germany, who probably had more chances than them. They were behind away to Hungary in front of 67k fans and had to come back. Then they were behind early on to Portugal and had to come back.

    They've clearly been tested in every single game, far more than a lot of teams have at this Euro's, including us.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    France have been average so far I think but the worrying thing is they have another couple of gears to get through. That side of the draw will certainly test and take a lot out of them.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    That is what I fear against France. You know what they can do with players like Mbappe, Kante and Pogba even if they aren't doing it yet! It is good they are on the other side of the draw as they are a team where if both teams play at 100%, the probably win. of course that does not always happen but I'd rather test it against England in the Final or avoid the question altogether if we are lucky and they get knocked out and we don't of course!
  • LegacyFan said:
    I really think we will beat them. Ive not been impressed with us really, but they are not a great side. Definitely a better draw than Portugal or France in my opinion. 
    Portugal are a one man team. It’s not that they haven’t got some really great players in their side but Ronaldo is key to holding them together. 

    France have yet to be tested despite being in the ‘group of death’. I’m not convinced they are together as a team’ at the moment though there’s no denying they have an edge.

    Italy is another country where I think the results have flattered them. They look like a bunch of players where too many of them want to be the one that get all the glory and are not playing for their teammates. When they come up a tougher side that attitude could blow up big time.

    What?

    They battled to a win away to Germany, who probably had more chances than them. They were behind away to Hungary in front of 67k fans and had to come back. Then they were behind early on to Portugal and had to come back.

    They've clearly been tested in every single game, far more than a lot of teams have at this Euro's, including us.
    In that group the prime objective for each country was to not lose. For them those matches have been like playing against a Bowyer team that’s brought on extra defenders in the last 10 minutes of a game. They haven’t been tested yet.
  • LegacyFan
    LegacyFan Posts: 35
    LegacyFan said:
    I really think we will beat them. Ive not been impressed with us really, but they are not a great side. Definitely a better draw than Portugal or France in my opinion. 
    Portugal are a one man team. It’s not that they haven’t got some really great players in their side but Ronaldo is key to holding them together. 

    France have yet to be tested despite being in the ‘group of death’. I’m not convinced they are together as a team’ at the moment though there’s no denying they have an edge.

    Italy is another country where I think the results have flattered them. They look like a bunch of players where too many of them want to be the one that gets all the glory and are not playing for their teammates. When they come up a tougher side that attitude could blow up big time.


    Id still rather play the Germans than either of the other two. France have been disappointing but they have so much talent there that if they find another gear or 3 they'd beat anyone.

    And I agree with you on Portugal but I still think they are more dangerous than Germany. Ronaldo would definitely score against us. Plus our record v them in tournaments is as bad as against the Germans. 
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    I'll be honest, the one team that scares me is France, they haven't been the best side. But if we come up against them at any point Mbappe will destroy whoever we play at the back, he's frightening. I pray they get knocked out by someone else 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    cafctom said:
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
    I know that, sorry just emphasizing what others have put and they look like they could step up a few gears. I was glad we avoided them next, I couldn't decide between Portugal and Germany who would be better but was glad we avoided the French :) 
  • A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I really can’t remember that one, who scored our goal?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    cafctom said:
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
    I know that, sorry just emphasizing what others have put and they look like they could step up a few gears. I was glad we avoided them next, I couldn't decide between Portugal and Germany who would be better but was glad we avoided the French :) 
    It has to be an advantage playing at Wembley. That is how we (The team) should approach it anyway. Better to go into the game with confidence rather than fear.
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  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I really can’t remember that one, who scored our goal?
    Shearer.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    cafctom said:
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
    I know that, sorry just emphasizing what others have put and they look like they could step up a few gears. I was glad we avoided them next, I couldn't decide between Portugal and Germany who would be better but was glad we avoided the French :) 
    It has to be an advantage playing at Wembley. That is how we (The team) should approach it anyway. Better to go into the game with confidence rather than fear.
    Also potentially helps that if we win, our sole game away from Wembley will be against either Sweden or Ukraine.

    England have never won a knockout game at the Euros away from Wembley but thats achievable.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited June 2021
    cafctom said:
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
    I know that, sorry just emphasizing what others have put and they look like they could step up a few gears. I was glad we avoided them next, I couldn't decide between Portugal and Germany who would be better but was glad we avoided the French :) 
    It has to be an advantage playing at Wembley. That is how we (The team) should approach it anyway. Better to go into the game with confidence rather than fear.
    Also potentially helps that if we win, our sole game away from Wembley will be against either Sweden or Ukraine.

    England have never won a knockout game at the Euros away from Wembley but thats achievable.
    You would think so. Neither country should have an advantage over us playing in Rome (where I think the quarter final will be played) you would imagine.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    cafctom said:
    Either way, in order for us to play France we would need to be at the Final.

    If we get there, then whatever the result, it would have been a hugely successful tournament by England’s standards. 
    I know that, sorry just emphasizing what others have put and they look like they could step up a few gears. I was glad we avoided them next, I couldn't decide between Portugal and Germany who would be better but was glad we avoided the French :) 
    It has to be an advantage playing at Wembley. That is how we (The team) should approach it anyway. Better to go into the game with confidence rather than fear.
    Also potentially helps that if we win, our sole game away from Wembley will be against either Sweden or Ukraine.

    England have never won a knockout game at the Euros away from Wembley but thats achievable.
    You would think so. Neither country should have an advantage over us playing in Rome (where I think the quarter final will be played) you would imagine.
    Yeah you're right... that one will be in Rome
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Literally cannot wait. Going to be a cracking game, favours us, Germans have shown they are vulnerable on the counter and if we match them we should find more space than in our group stage games.

    Very happy with that draw and run if we can do em'
    Will be down to strength of character - I hope we don't have a repeat of the Scotland performance. 
    That's my concern, they're our biggest rivals with Scotland and the players will know how big the game is, hopefully it doesn't effect us. Need to play players who won't get stage fright 
    Maybe Sancho and Bellingham? Both play in Germany and might just be right for this game.
    Could be a shout, I've said since the start I don't understand why we aren't playing a 433 with those two on the right, they play with eachother week in week out so it just seems logical. Good thinking with the same league, on the flip side the German players may be more comfortable playing against them? 

    I feel Grealish and Saka MUST start, Germany don't look their usual composed self at all and those two will run at them without fear and cause them trouble. I also think this will be Kane's game, I reckon he will bully that German back line. 

    I genuinely favour us 70/30 atm. My biggest concern with them is Kimmich and Gnabry, if they have quiet games we will do them 
    I agree about Grealish and Saka. Been talking to my brother and very controversial, but I'd play without a striker. 

    I'd play Foden as a false 9, with Grealish just behind, Saka down the right and Sterling down the left. If Foden drops deep Sterling will try get in behind with Grealish pushing left. The German backline isn't the quickest, let's do them with pace and movement. 
    Two goals in 270 minutes…..let’s try playing without a striker!

    Dear Lord.
    Man City played without a striker for a chunk of the season, how did they get on?

    Kane drops deep anyway, so if Foden played there it wouldn't be any different, except Foden has the ability to go past a man and allows us more pace elsewhere. For the record, I'm a big Kane fan and his form doesn't overly concern me, it was a suggestion to expose Germany's weaknesses. 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    France have been average so far I think but the worrying thing is they have another couple of gears to get through. That side of the draw will certainly test and take a lot out of them.
    Found this on PSG-Life Website



    ValleeGary dit:
    Les Anglais a été moyenne jusqu'à présent, je pense, mais ce qui est inquiétant, c'est qu'ils ont encore quelques vitesses à passer. Ce côté du tirage au sort va certainement tester et leur en retirer beaucoup.

  • hermann
    hermann Posts: 481
    I'll be honest, the one team that scares me is France, they haven't been the best side. But if we come up against them at any point Mbappe will destroy whoever we play at the back, he's frightening. I pray they get knocked out by someone else 
    He didn't destroy Stones and Walker when he was up against them in April did he? Genuine Q, didn't see either leg. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    The fact is, nobody would be questioning if the Czech keeper hadn't made a good save from him. Kane strikes me as the sort that can handle the odd baron spell. He remains one of the best strikers in the World and we are lucky to have him.  
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    What a day that was @Clem_Snide
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I remembered us beating them in a tournament game, so had been confused by the comments

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/euro2000/795342.stm

    Looking at the team, Phil Neville at LB looks the defensive weak link, as was proven when he gave away the crucial penalty against Romania

    The surprise to me in that team is Dennis Wise, I'd forgotten he played in Euro 2000
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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I remembered us beating them in a tournament game, so had been confused by the comments

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/euro2000/795342.stm

    Looking at the team, Phil Neville at LB looks the defensive weak link, as was proven when he gave away the crucial penalty against Romania

    The surprise to me in that team is Dennis Wise, I'd forgotten he played in Euro 2000
    That German team was terrible.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I remembered us beating them in a tournament game, so had been confused by the comments

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/euro2000/795342.stm

    Looking at the team, Phil Neville at LB looks the defensive weak link, as was proven when he gave away the crucial penalty against Romania

    The surprise to me in that team is Dennis Wise, I'd forgotten he played in Euro 2000
    You’ve ruined my day mentioning the Neville penalty. Haven’t thought about that moment for years! 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    "2021 was a magical summer, our boys beat England 0-0 at the Euros"

  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
     Forget France, Italy, Belguim, Portugal, Croatia, Spain; even the Swiss and Austria.

    The only focus is Germany from England's point of View. 

    If we couldn't play Hungary I wanted Germany rather than Portugal or France.

    The winner of this game has a great chance of going all the way to the final. 50/50 match but can the flair we have, be unleashed or will we play within ourselves ?
    This is not a vintage German side but that has never stopped them before in getting to a final.

  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,779
    A couple of comments saying we've not beaten Germany for 50 years in a tournament game...

    We beat them 1-0 in the group stage of Euro 2000
    I really can’t remember that one, who scored our goal?
    Shearer.
    With a diving header. Both teams were poor and neither qualified from the group.
    They have put us put of 4 world cups and 2 Euros since 66. 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    Germany changed their whole football setup because of that campaign in 2000.

    Look how it turned out.

    We started later but our football is producing great youth talent now - we need to entrust these kids who are super talented. 

    Alas our current manager stifles them.  As for anybody saying France have been average so far.... what the hell does that make England ???!
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    supaclive said:
    Germany changed their whole football setup because of that campaign in 2000.

    Look how it turned out.

    We started later but our football is producing great youth talent now - we need to entrust these kids who are super talented. 

    Alas our current manager stifles them.  As for anybody saying France have been average so far.... what the hell does that make England ???!
    Below average?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    German team for all their faults do look like scoring. 

    We as a team do not. 

    Over 120 minutes they will score, not sure about us. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,978
    edited June 2021
    German team for all their faults do look like scoring. 

    We as a team do not. 

    Over 120 minutes they will score, not sure about us. 
    English team for all their faults do not look like conceding.

    They as a team do.

    Over 120 minutes we won’t concede, not sure about them.

    In all seriousness, it’s too hard to call either way. Heart says we win but head doesn’t have a clue.