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ECB’s “The Hundred”
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It’s ok (ish). Really don’t like the TV graphics. Surely it would be better to get T20 to the masses? At least then if kids got interested they wouldn’t be confused when confronted with 6 ball overs and umpires not waving white cards everywhere if they watched a longer form. ECB really missed a trick when introducing T20 by not agreeing a terrestrial TV deal and some particularly bizarre scheduling which seemed to try and deliberately exclude children.4
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Test cricket, Four day country cricket and 50 overs cricket for me I'm only just beginning to enjoy 20/20 !
Having said that I watched the whole of the woman's match (watch Women's football but hadn't watched women's cricket)
I had heard of Heather Knight and Kate Cross (daughter of Footballer David Cross) and thought it was good for these woman to get publicity and play in front of a decent crowd (even if 3k were comps)
Just not sure "The Hundreds" is needed in the men's game ? I would prefer more 50 over cricket but surely you have to play enough 4 day cricket or otherwise 5 day test match will go the same way as the Dodo.
ADHD is really having an impact on our entertainment.
Speed Chess is coming to channel 5 soon.
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Everyone there seemed to be having a nice time. Which must be good.3
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We've been all over this before. Australia only has 6 "counties", so the big bash double the opportunities for players and doubled the opportunities for fans. We have 18 counties, so reducing that to 8 franchises achieves the exact opposite of the big bash, fewer players playing fewer games in front of fewer (net) fans.
How can anybody say with a straight face this expands the game when it prevents huge areas of the country not near one of the 8 selected grounds from readily getting to a game? How does a potential fan in Canterbury or Hove get to the Oval on Thursday night?8 -
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the teams names are a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.1 -
Enjoyed being back at the Oval. My 6 year old lad loved it. Really pleased we went.7
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I've seen both 100 games. My conclusion is...that it's just a bit of fun. Particularly for the kids and families, who might otherwise never, ever watch a game.
People need to lighten up and accept it for what it is.
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I can live with it if it doesn't end up detracting from the T20 blast, which is a terrific competition.1
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Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
BTW I was a massive advocate of T20, I even wrote a business case for it at school, years before the ECB did. Guess when I suggested holding it? In the school holidays.3 -
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.0 -
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1 ball which the players kick towards "goals" at either end...ValleyGary said:1 ball each team….0 -
It certainly would be less divisive if supporters of a county knew that their best T20 players would then go and play for their local T20 "franchise", rather than ending up all over the place. Especially for those not hosting any events, who see their players all over the country.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
BTW I was a massive advocate of T20, I even wrote a business case for it at school, years before the ECB did. Guess when I suggested holding it? In the school holidays.
On the commentary, Jimmy Anderson clearly saw the Originals as an extension of Lancashire, while the Invincibles are Surrey dominated (5 in the team tonight plus Clark and laughably Burns)
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Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.
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Northern would have been named after Leeds but the rest of Yorkshire threw a fit! Hence the more neutral nameCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.1 -
Exactly, the same as those over the pennines have thrown a fit over it being Manchester!!!killerandflash said:
Northern would have been named after Leeds but the rest of Yorkshire threw a fit! Hence the more neutral nameCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.0 -
The Yorkies threw more of a fitCafc43v3r said:
Exactly, the same as those over the pennines have thrown a fit over it being Manchester!!!killerandflash said:
Northern would have been named after Leeds but the rest of Yorkshire threw a fit! Hence the more neutral nameCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.
And to be fair, Lancashire cricket is far more dominated by Manchester than Yorkshire cricket is dominated by Leeds. Indeed historically Yorkshire is a far bigger county too.0 -
But Yorkshire is the only county to have two test venues and Lancashire last won the county championship the last time they didn't play a game in Manchester 🤷♂️killerandflash said:
The Yorkies threw more of a fitCafc43v3r said:
Exactly, the same as those over the pennines have thrown a fit over it being Manchester!!!killerandflash said:
Northern would have been named after Leeds but the rest of Yorkshire threw a fit! Hence the more neutral nameCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.
And to be fair, Lancashire cricket is far more dominated by Manchester than Yorkshire cricket is dominated by Leeds. Indeed historically Yorkshire is a far bigger county too.0 -
Another great game!
I’ve loved it.
I even stayed with it when rugby league was on the other side 😳1 -
BlackfenLen said:Enjoyed being back at the Oval. My 6 year old lad loved it. Really pleased we went.Bournemouth Addick said:I've seen both 100 games. My conclusion is...that it's just a bit of fun. Particularly for the kids and families, who might otherwise never, ever watch a game.
People need to lighten up and accept it for what it is.
Valid points, but it feels similar to Football dropping the League cup and FA cup, and playing 7 a side league in December and January, inside a big arena with Radio 1 DJ's promoting the likes of Kane, Rice, Chilwell, Saka, LLoris, Mount and White playing for London verses Manchester with Shaw, Sterling, Stone, Rashford, Foden, Henderson and Greenwood. ITV get the gig and what can go wrong. Geordie Wearsiders, Yorkies and Midland Marvels are three other teams.
I accept it's not aimed at me and it's was good to see adults and kids enjoying a cricket match.2 -
As others have stated, this format, IF it continues beyond this season, will be the death of the 50 Over matches for county teams.suzisausage said:I’m enjoying it. Really don’t see the harm in it or why anyone would be so annoyed about it.The kids are loving it!
I believe that my county, Kent, have 9, if not more, players involved in the Hundred squads , as I'm sure do others..
Today's match at Beckenham v Durham was a prime example of the damage to county sides who do not have the depth of squads like, for example, Surrey.
So, for the month of 50 Over matches, scratch/second teams in effect will be trying to keep up the standards for those interested in watching THEIR team over all formats whilst the Hundred will have several of their county players sitting on the bench /running on with caps etc. What a huge waste & a huge disincentive for members who pay a fee each year to ensure they are able to watch their teams perform. They may well decide not to bother in future to the detriment of their county, and who could blame them.
Some Kent supporters were overheard today stating that the loss of the 50 Over competition in the future could toll the death knell for some less wealthy counties including their own. With only matchday income from 4 day games, especially in the cold & wet in April/May , which many clearly avoid and the T20s, our historic , respected KCCC may even cease to exist.....
Oh, and when those playing in the Hundred , including England internationals, fail to gain valuable practice in the 50 Over version, how will they fare when plunged "cold" into the 1 Day series against opposing countries ?
Would you like to see the Aussies & the Windies laughing as they beat our Happy Hundred internationals ?
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But we don't count, you know people that actually like cricket and watch our counties. I watch both of mine.Fanny Fanackapan said:
As others have stated, this format, IF it continues beyond this season, will be the death of the 50 Over matches for county teams.suzisausage said:I’m enjoying it. Really don’t see the harm in it or why anyone would be so annoyed about it.The kids are loving it!
I believe that my county, Kent, have 9, if not more, players involved in the Hundred squads , as I'm sure do others..
Today's match at Beckenham v Durham was a prime example of the damage to county sides who do not have the depth of squads like, for example, Surrey.
So, for the month of 50 Over matches, scratch/second teams in effect will be trying to keep up the standards for those interested in watching THEIR team over all formats whilst the Hundred will have several of their county players sitting on the bench /running on with caps etc. What a huge waste & a huge disincentive for members who pay a fee each year to ensure they are able to watch their teams perform. They may well decide not to bother in future to the detriment of their county, and who could blame them.
Some Kent supporters were overheard today stating that the loss of the 50 Over competition in the future could toll the death knell for some less wealthy counties including their own. With only matchday income from 4 day games, especially in the cold & wet in April/May , which many clearly avoid and the T20s, our historic , respected KCCC may even cease to exist.....
Oh, and when those playing in the Hundred , including England internationals, fail to gain valuable practice in the 50 Over version, how will they fare when plunged "cold" into the 1 Day series against opposing countries ?
Would you like to see the Aussies & the Windies laughing as they beat our Happy Hundred internationals ?
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Here, here! Spot on, as everFanny Fanackapan said:
As others have stated, this format, IF it continues beyond this season, will be the death of the 50 Over matches for county teams.suzisausage said:I’m enjoying it. Really don’t see the harm in it or why anyone would be so annoyed about it.The kids are loving it!
I believe that my county, Kent, have 9, if not more, players involved in the Hundred squads , as I'm sure do others..
Today's match at Beckenham v Durham was a prime example of the damage to county sides who do not have the depth of squads like, for example, Surrey.
So, for the month of 50 Over matches, scratch/second teams in effect will be trying to keep up the standards for those interested in watching THEIR team over all formats whilst the Hundred will have several of their county players sitting on the bench /running on with caps etc. What a huge waste & a huge disincentive for members who pay a fee each year to ensure they are able to watch their teams perform. They may well decide not to bother in future to the detriment of their county, and who could blame them.
Some Kent supporters were overheard today stating that the loss of the 50 Over competition in the future could toll the death knell for some less wealthy counties including their own. With only matchday income from 4 day games, especially in the cold & wet in April/May , which many clearly avoid and the T20s, our historic , respected KCCC may even cease to exist.....
Oh, and when those playing in the Hundred , including England internationals, fail to gain valuable practice in the 50 Over version, how will they fare when plunged "cold" into the 1 Day series against opposing countries ?
Would you like to see the Aussies & the Windies laughing as they beat our Happy Hundred internationals ?1 -
Just got home after a few more chilled beers and a debrief with my dad. Had a good time - better than a few t20 outings I’ve had at the oval before. However, I really don’t know what the hundred brings that t20 doesn’t to be honest. Difficult to follow the score, the graphics in the ground aren’t much better than the ones on tv. Manchester just were never allowed to get out of 3rd gear and oval bowled very well.Disappointed with Buttler, I was hyping him to my non cricket mates as one of the best in the business, and he did next to nothing and limped out!A lot of work needed to get rid of the teething problems. I feel like the new score system causes just as much questions as it does try to solve and make simpler.Just a bit meh about it to be honest.5
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I'm thinking of joining the Aachen Aardvarken because I haven't won anything for a long time.ValleyGary said:Just sort the final table alphabetically…
Congratulations Aberystwyth Aardvarks.1 -
"Dad, that Hundred match was great. I want to learn how to bat and bowl? Please Dad!!!"
"Sorry son but I don't know anything about cricket and children your age stop playing at school and for clubs when the Hundred starts. There's always next year. We can still watch it on TV and spend money buying tickets to go and see some matches. We will be helping all those nice people at the ECB by doing that."
"Suppose so Dad. When does football training start again?"
"Next week son. And it's a lot cheaper to play football too. All you need is a pair of boots"
"Oh that's great. Cricket's OK to watch but I'd much rather be playing football"1 -
Agree that it feels like a London bubble and let's see how it plays out in the rest of the country in further seasons. Getting full house The Oval is simply what they have been doing for years particularly on Thursday/Fridays for T20s so no reason why that would end with the 100. The crowd they attract is a lot of people looking for a good night out not so dissimilar to PDC DartsCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.
The real success of the Hundred will come with bigger gates in the rest of the country who still struggle even with T20s. Pereonally I can't see why Chester Le Street will start getting more people in just because 40 less balls are bowled than T204 -
If that were the only difference, you'd be making quite a good point.JohnnyH2 said:
Agree that it feels like a London bubble and let's see how it plays out in the rest of the country in further seasons. Getting full house The Oval is simply what they have been doing for years particularly on Thursday/Fridays for T20s so no reason why that would end with the 100. The crowd they attract is a lot of people looking for a good night out not so dissimilar to PDC DartsCafc43v3r said:
Which 3 cities have a population of over a million? Do you mean city or metropolitan area?Rothko said:
Yes I do, but it's a thing the 3 main cities with over a 1m get teams names after them, whilst the smaller cities have a more regional feel.Cafc43v3r said:
Do you understand why a team called Manchester isn't appealing to 80% of the county of Lancashire?Rothko said:
Yes shock horror, the test grounds are in, let me check my notes, Cities, and yeah the names names is a bit generic, but I would take a guess that they weren't pulled out of a hat at Lords for the lols.Cafc43v3r said:
But that isn't what they have done is it. So stop saying they have. Test grounds does not equal cities.Rothko said:
That's exactly what they've done, could they have named both London teams as ‘london’ then yeah maybe. But the whole thing is wrapped up in the summer holidays, which is a darn sight better then the blast which just goes on and on with loads of dead games, the teams have a city base, but we don't have state capitals/identies like Australia, so you adapt to the market.Cafc43v3r said:
I get that point. If that was what had happened but that's not what has happened.Rothko said:I just don't buy that the county game was a way to get people interested, and the ECB looked at Australia and saw that city franchise teams over the summer holidays was the way to go
Also Australia is very, very different geographically. How many Sheffield Sheild teams are there and how many Big Bash teams are there?
What City is "The Oval" or the "The North" or "Wales"?
It being in the summer holidays is very good. But sod all to do with the format.
The format will evolve, as did T20, but let's not do revisionism here, a lot of the people getting a bit narly about the 100, would have done in 2003 when the T20 took away their 60 over cup.
The simple thing was to stick to 20/20, merg 3 countries to create each "team", say you had to play 2 players from each county plus 3 over seas. Play your home games at all 3 of your "home grounds". In a 2/2/3 fashion. And don't play it over the 50 over cup and scrap the blast and run a concurrent t20 tournament for those not involved.
As shifting teams around to placate 4,000 at Chelmsford or Hove is just silly. Big venues, get people in, share the spoil around the sport.
If you want to identify as an "Oval" knock yourself out but it's a stupid idea and you won't convince me otherwise. I know people that go to Old Trafford who won't go because the team is called Manchester. I know no one in Yorkshire that has an appite for "Northern". Designed by people in a London bubble.
The real success of the Hundred will come with bigger gates in the rest of the country who still struggle even with T20s. Pereonally I can't see why Chester Le Street will start getting more people in just because 40 less balls are bowled than T200 -
BlackfenLen said:Enjoyed being back at the Oval. My 6 year old lad loved it. Really pleased we went.
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Yes, pre-covid, but was too young really. Taking him to Surrey vs Northants next Friday for the 1 day game. I will be interested to see what he'll be like over 100 overs....0
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rushed, frantic, too eager to please and some pretty poor batting performances as the 'batters' seemed to get swept up in the febrile atmosphere .. despite the hype, the 100 is just a shortened version of 20/20, perhaps a statement of the bleedin obvious, but that is really all it is.
A lot of money has been invested in this format, perhaps money that would have been better spent in improving 20/20. Large cash investment will mean that the 100 is too big to fail. BUT I doubt the public enthusiasm will last for too long, especially on dark and damp late summer/early autumn evenings The crowd seemed to enjoy it but that is probably due to terrific marketing, a determination to enjoy a 'new concept' and (supposedly) post covid lockdown euphoria. The tv coverage (BBC) tried to do too much, too many 'celebs' trying too hard to be enthusiastic. All in all a joyful yet overhyped start. I'll give it two years before the gloss wears off4
