Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

bobmunro said:

CharltontillidieCOYR said:

Backup gk - 
lb -

Cm lowery
Cm/am dempsey

Lw/rw.   sims

get rid of schwartz 
replace with Jephcott

Aneke replacement - size and goals

job done

how good would that be 😂

Winning a £100 million Euromillions jackpot would be good also - but that isn't happening either!

👏🏻👏🏻 Well said sir

golfaddick said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k

Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.

Why would you start at £500k on Wednesday when they could except £300k by deadline day? You lose money that could be the difference between signing one good player and signing two.

They need the money and he’s not signing another contract. Putting your first bid as the asking price is not an intelligent way to conduct business. 

Hypothetical I know because still a few days left to make some wonderful signings. ;-)

But if for whatever reason we sign next to f**k all, will TS be open and honest with the reasons why or will he generate some serious spin of the like that has never before been seen at SE7?...( Which will take some doing!)

carly burn said:

Hypothetical I know because still a few days left to make some wonderful signings. ;-)

But if for whatever reason we sign next to f**k all, will TS be open and honest with the reasons why or will he generate some serious spin of the like that has never before been seen at SE7?...( Which will take some doing!)

Well based on his previous form I think it will be somewhere in between. He's open and honest enough to confess that he HAS messed up but probably have a very long list of reasons (of varying plausibility) why.

Look at the aftermath of the Red Robin fiasco - a polished statement and moved quickly on.

_MrDick said:

Scoham said:

Boom 💥

https://twitter.com/cafcofficial/status/1430492776165224448?s=21

No, wait, that’s not a signing.

Poor fella ... All that way to watch the shower of S**t last Saturday. Anyone else think his mate looks like Andy Marshall

The little geezer looks like a fat Mendonca.

golfaddick said:

thenewbie said:

Maybe you BOTH need to chill a little? This is making me miss the argument thread, this would've been prime material.

As to the Dempsey rumour that is one I can see happening, they've quoted us a price, we've made a counter offer and now Gallen's got to do the haggling to get to a middle ground.

But the player also has to agree to join us. Why would someone want to join a club that is below them in the league & could also be fighting relegation. I imagine we'd have to pay him more in wages as he now has the upper hand......something that wouldn't have been the case a month ago.

But apparently I'm just a worrier that we didnt get players in before the season started & that by next tuesday we'll be falling over ourselves with players desperately wanting to join us as there won't be another gig in town. 

Lower in the league after four games.
Perhaps that’s why Kane has refused to join City - he has looked at the current position of Spurs and them.

thewolfboy said:

Offer Gills say £300k for Dempsey plus a season loan for Albie. (I can but dream!)

Yep get rid of the player that's set up both our goals 

thenewbie said:

golfaddick said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k

Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.

Because if you start with 500k they'll just ask for a million and you end up paying 750k (all figures approximate obviously).

It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.

In a pandemic?   With little or nobody else offering near your asking price?   I wouldn't bank on that - which is why we got Kirk for less than was being asked in January...

MrBurns said:

I think they will accepted 350-400k for Dempey by Friday 

Do you know something we all don't, sounds like you just want us to cave in, I mean why not go the whole hog and bung 'em 500k, he is clearly not worth to us what they are after, I mean 500k/750K ffs, get real

Forest were said to be interested in Dempsey earlier in the window and said to have been quoted £750k
Also rumours that Evans is threatening to leave as deeply unchuffed. Obviously won’t unless offered another job, but does suggest that all is not well in their camp.

The art of negotiation. You value subject x at 500k, so you offer 750k to be safe. 

You offer 200-250k as a start and come back to negotiate. 

The fact its out there that we offered 200k means they are applying pressure for a higher bid.

When we needed a winger in Jan we basically went 'deadline day fishing' and threw our bate (offer) out to multiple clubs to see if we got any bites. The outcome on that occasion was:

Josh Morris - unsuccessful
Charlie Kirk - unsuccessful (in Jan)
Jordan Graham - unsuccessful
DJ - successful

I expect it will be a similar approach this year. If Gillingham (who need the cash) or Crewe (who have a player that has refused to play) dont accept or negotiate close to our offer then we'll simply move on to the next target until we find a club that does (exactly like we did with Gillingham in Jan when discussing a deal for Graham....who ended up leaving them on a free later in the summer).

I think we could do with both Dempsey & Lowery so hopefully the pressure of the looming deadline & need for their clubs to sell results in deals being agreed.

We managed without an experienced back up keeper last season. I think we have 2 young keepers who can cover. I think we need a bulldozer striker as an alternative to Stockley. Hoofing the ball to him surrounded by defenders isn’t working. 

eastterrace6168 said:

MrBurns said:

I think they will accepted 350-400k for Dempey by Friday 

Do you know something we all don't, sounds like you just want us to cave in, I mean why not go the whole hog and bung 'em 500k, he is clearly not worth to us what they are after, I mean 500k/750K ffs, get real

Only a fool offers the asking price at the start. Also it doesn't appear that we have much money at the moment so I'd sooner the club play it smart and test the waters instead of throwing money at anyone at the first stage. Us fans don't have the inside knowledge of the inner workings at Gillingham. Perhaps they need to recover money from selling Dempsey and we are aware of that fact or we might being using this to put pressure on Crewe selling the other midfielder we're in for. 

supaclive said:

thenewbie said:

golfaddick said:

ElliotCAFC said:

Usual suspects on Twitter complaining the clubs skint and TS has given us no budget because our opening offer for Dempsey was only £200k

Well, they're not wrong in a way. What's wrong with bunging down £500k & say take it or leave it. No haggling, just do the deal. Its not like we can be choosy now is it.

Because if you start with 500k they'll just ask for a million and you end up paying 750k (all figures approximate obviously).

It's football, there's no professional club in any league that will do a "take it or leave it" deal. It just doesn't work like that.

In a pandemic?   With little or nobody else offering near your asking price?   I wouldn't bank on that - which is why we got Kirk for less than was being asked in January...

Well with the money being thrown around by Wigan, Ipswich etc they might very well be gambling that if they hold out they might get someone who will pay it.

This is one case where those clubs doing more business than us might actually prove a good thing IF it means they are done and won't be gazumping us on deadline day.