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  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    edited August 2021
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    After the signing of Lee we had 4 places left, including JFC and Schwartz.  Not including our Dempsey.

    Re new signings we could technically still loan 2 under 21s and a keeper and it ould still be 4 places left.  Although I seriously doubt we will sign 7 in the next 28 hours. 
    EFL Regulations state:
    (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
    (i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
    (ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
    By my count here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/charlton-athletic/startseite/verein/358 We already have 21 players above the age of 21.
    Edit: I've gone to the site https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-season-2021-22-final..pdf and Goalkeepers aren't included so that brings us to 20. It's also slightly higher at 22 places which by my count gives us space for 2.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    No, there is three and that includes JFC who we could potentially leave out anyway. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Vfrf said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    After the signing of Lee we had 4 places left, including JFC and Schwartz.  Not including our Dempsey.

    Re new signings we could technically still loan 2 under 21s and a keeper and it ould still be 4 places left.  Although I seriously doubt we will sign 7 in the next 28 hours. 
    EFL Regulations state:
    (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
    (i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
    (ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
    By my count here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/charlton-athletic/startseite/verein/358 We already have 21 players above the age of 21.
    Edit: I've gone to the site https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-season-2021-22-final..pdf and Goalkeepers aren't included so that brings us to 20. It's also slightly higher at 22 places which by my count gives us space for 2.
    Morgan doesn't count, but Davison does despite them being the same age. So that's 3, I can't remember why it was 4 but it's certainly not 1 or 2.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    After the signing of Lee we had 4 places left, including JFC and Schwartz.  Not including our Dempsey.

    Re new signings we could technically still loan 2 under 21s and a keeper and it ould still be 4 places left.  Although I seriously doubt we will sign 7 in the next 28 hours. 
    EFL Regulations state:
    (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
    (i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
    (ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
    By my count here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/charlton-athletic/startseite/verein/358 We already have 21 players above the age of 21.
    Edit: I've gone to the site https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-season-2021-22-final..pdf and Goalkeepers aren't included so that brings us to 20. It's also slightly higher at 22 places which by my count gives us space for 2.
    Morgan doesn't count, but Davison does despite them being the same age. So that's 3, I can't remember why it was 4 but it's certainly not 1 or 2.
    It would be two if we include Dempsey. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Right transfer market lists 22 players, of which Morgan, Barker and MacGillivray don't count.

    It doesn't include Dempsey but does include Schwartz and JFC.

    So we have a minimum of 2, 3 if you don't include Dempsey.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    After the signing of Lee we had 4 places left, including JFC and Schwartz.  Not including our Dempsey.

    Re new signings we could technically still loan 2 under 21s and a keeper and it ould still be 4 places left.  Although I seriously doubt we will sign 7 in the next 28 hours. 
    EFL Regulations state:
    (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
    (i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
    (ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
    By my count here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/charlton-athletic/startseite/verein/358 We already have 21 players above the age of 21.
    Edit: I've gone to the site https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-season-2021-22-final..pdf and Goalkeepers aren't included so that brings us to 20. It's also slightly higher at 22 places which by my count gives us space for 2.
    Morgan doesn't count, but Davison does despite them being the same age. So that's 3, I can't remember why it was 4 but it's certainly not 1 or 2.
    It would be two if we include Dempsey. 
    I’m sure our Dempsey will be left out if needed.
  • Vfrf
    Vfrf Posts: 797
    MrBurns said:
    Why do people think we are after Tucker?
    That Sun article and FI stating we're interested in both. I don't believe it but it's why others might.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Scoham said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Vfrf said:
    SouthLondonisRed said:
    If we could get Tucker and Dempsey and another striker, It won’t be a bad transfer market after all.! 
    Only one more space on registration and that's without Arter. I'm not sure the solution to that - I'd imagine Schwartz would be the first to get the chop, possibly Pearce stepping aside if Tucker came in? If he's a future coach at the club I'm sure he wouldn't mind and would still play every cup game if he wanted to (I think it's seperate registration)? The alternative is to cancel the CBT contract as he seems to be a wasted space but it would be incredibly harsh to ruin his chance at a new club ( though as a free agent he could sign elsewhere ).
    After the signing of Lee we had 4 places left, including JFC and Schwartz.  Not including our Dempsey.

    Re new signings we could technically still loan 2 under 21s and a keeper and it ould still be 4 places left.  Although I seriously doubt we will sign 7 in the next 28 hours. 
    EFL Regulations state:
    (b) in respect of League One and Two Clubs:
    (i) in Season 2020/21, 22 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player; and
    (ii) in Season 2021/22 and each subsequent Season, 20 Players of which a minimum of 8 must be a Home Grown Player.
    By my count here: https://www.transfermarkt.com/charlton-athletic/startseite/verein/358 We already have 21 players above the age of 21.
    Edit: I've gone to the site https://www.efl.com/contentassets/b3cd34c726c341ca9636610aa4503172/regulations-season-2021-22-final..pdf and Goalkeepers aren't included so that brings us to 20. It's also slightly higher at 22 places which by my count gives us space for 2.
    Morgan doesn't count, but Davison does despite them being the same age. So that's 3, I can't remember why it was 4 but it's certainly not 1 or 2.
    It would be two if we include Dempsey. 
    I’m sure our Dempsey will be left out if needed.
    I agree, just saying we have a minimum of two spots left for signings. That includes Dempsey and JFC, who could easily be left out. Plus we could easily sign a youngster on loan who doesn't count anyway (U21). We're not going to run out of squad spaces that's for sure, that's not going to be a barrier from signing players tomorrow. 
  • ExiledinManchester
    ExiledinManchester Posts: 508
    We have 21 players over 21 in our squad. which includes Macgillivray and Morgan (unsure why the latter is being considered as under 21), which means we can only add either 2 or 3 players over 21. Of course this could change if Adkins decides not to include Schwartz or Forster-Caskey in the squad.  As regards Davison he is in the 21 and has already played therefore once again unsure if he can be subsequently omitted.
  • ExiledinManchester
    ExiledinManchester Posts: 508
    Dempsey hasn't been included in our five league matches so presumably isn't regarded as a squad member.
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  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,309
    Got to say, Vennings and Dempsey are 20 and 21. If they were close to being good enough for first team football in league one they would have got more minutes in the league. I'd be pleasantly surprised, but I can't see these two making it with us. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ExiledinManchester said:
    We have 21 players over 21 in our squad. which includes Macgillivray and Morgan (unsure why the latter is being considered as under 21), which means we can only add either 2 or 3 players over 21. Of course this could change if Adkins decides not to include Schwartz or Forster-Caskey in the squad.  As regards Davison he is in the 21 and has already played therefore once again unsure if he can be subsequently omitted.
    Because he wasn't 21 on 1st January 2000. Only Dempsey and Davison count who are 21, Morgan and Ghandour don't count. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ExiledinManchester said:
    Dempsey hasn't been included in our five league matches so presumably isn't regarded as a squad member.
    It's not about who has or hasn't played so far. We will have to submit a 22 man squad tomorrow/wednesday which will take us to January. If Dempsey is in that list, he can play, if he's not, then he can't. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    addick1956 said:
    Sorbate Thomas, remember him ? Boreham Wood. They wanted 2k or so. What ever it was we offered less. Eventually Huddersfield paid that in January.  This season 4 assists and a goal in 5 Championship games this season. 

    Looks like a good player on the  highlights 
    Sorba Thomas.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Covered End said:
    addick1956 said:
    Sorbate Thomas, remember him ? Boreham Wood. They wanted 2k or so. What ever it was we offered less. Eventually Huddersfield paid that in January.  This season 4 assists and a goal in 5 Championship games this season. 

    Looks like a good player on the  highlights 
    Sorba Thomas.
    Lemon sorbet? 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Covered End said:
    addick1956 said:
    Sorbate Thomas, remember him ? Boreham Wood. They wanted 2k or so. What ever it was we offered less. Eventually Huddersfield paid that in January.  This season 4 assists and a goal in 5 Championship games this season. 

    Looks like a good player on the  highlights 
    Sorba Thomas.
    Lemon sorbet? 
    Is that a hint we’re signing Osa Guobadia?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Covered End said:
    addick1956 said:
    Sorbate Thomas, remember him ? Boreham Wood. They wanted 2k or so. What ever it was we offered less. Eventually Huddersfield paid that in January.  This season 4 assists and a goal in 5 Championship games this season. 

    Looks like a good player on the  highlights 
    Sorba Thomas.
    I wish we would sign him - he could have gone on the list of disrespected players. C’mon Atkins and Gallon, let’s get him signed up. Hopefully Jack Fucker as well. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
  • AdTheAddicK
    AdTheAddicK Posts: 3,379
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Use a rubber then 
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Not happening, who would pay anywhere near £38k pw?
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Haha good luck that with that one. 
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    It's been said by many over and over on this thread....we need a very good LB.
    That's what is needed if we are to stand a chance this season of getting out of this league.
  • orpingtonRED
    orpingtonRED Posts: 3,474
    Sorry I don't have any rumours on a LB so fingers crossed 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Well at least they have a sense of humour.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    MrBurns said:
    Why do people think we are after Tucker?
    Sorry, you’re going to have to read all 811 pages like the rest of us!
    😉
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    So it’s gone from done with us likely paying less than 25% of his wages to possible issues with his medical and Forest wanting £38k paid by a L1 club who are neither Ipswich or Wigan.

    Any rumours about other players?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Looks like that are going to be stuck with him then.
  • Bubble
    Bubble Posts: 1,541
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Why would we invite him to watch the game Saturday knowing that? Unless the terms have been changed
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,476
    Covered End said:
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Heard Forest want Arter wages totally off the books. 
    Not happening, who would pay anywhere near £38k pw?
    Not Forest is my opinion.
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