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Petrol Supply Problems
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They weren't migrants. They were citizens. That's the point. We've recreated the protected labour market with no preparation or investigation into whether it is a realistic option.killerandflash said:If we're talking politics, the obsessions of politicians (especially Blair) that youngsters should get a degree instead of doing necessary work has also helped cause this problem.
There was something a bit odd that we brought in EU migrants to do essential jobs like building, plumbing or HGV driving, when so many of our own youngsters end up with degrees that equip them for nothing. Or leave school at 16 with nothing, and no career path into useful work3 -
And it is starting to look like it isn't. Well done.1
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At least there’s one positive for you in this.Addickted said:Well I've not got enough fuel to get to The Valley and back tomorrow.10 -
#WalkingisbrilliantAddickted said:Well I've not got enough fuel to get to The Valley and back tomorrow.15 -
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Traffic is a bit chaotic in the SE7 area at the mo, large queue of people trying to get into the garage on lower road. If driving, would suggest an earlier start than usual0
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How much gear we talking? Cos my guy couldn’t deliver tonight because apparently his car can’t run on sovereignty. Bloody cheek! 😉Addickted said:My missus is frantic. She's supposed to be picking up the son from Aberystwyth on Sunday after he's finished his MA. We've not seen him for over a year and he obviously has a ton of gear to bring home.
He has nowhere to stay or store his stuff from tomorrow night and even if she gets there, there is no guarantee they can get home from West Wales to Kent.4 -
Gotta love this thread. People going on about "idiots" panic buying, followed by a series of "updates" about how there's two cars queuing at the Shell garage next to the Isle of Wight ferry, thus fuelling the panic! (If you pardon the pun.)3
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always go food shopping and get diesel near by at 6am on a Saturday. A tank of derv just about lasts me a week.I drive past 3 petrol stations on the way. 2 sold out and the other had approx 80 cars queueing….6am
looks like I won’t be going to work this week. I can’t afford to be driving around looking for somewhere as I’d get stranded.
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Are they lining up for Petrol over there ? Do they have huge gaps on their supermarket shelves ? well apart from British Goods that can't get through because of Boris Johnsons 'wonder' deal. Thought not. RHA did a survey of members, that's the guys that own haulage companies, they said number 1 reason for driver shortage is retirement followed by Brexit. If you voted Brexit and Conservative you are pretty much responsible for this mess.Gribbo said:se9addick said:Nothing to do with Brexit though…
Report in France from a couple of weeks back - https://www.lenouvelliste.ch/articles/economie/leurope-manque-de-camionneurs-1104722
Headline says - "Low wages, high training costs and retirements are reducing the number of truck drivers. The situation is particularly bad in Italy."
Report in France a couple of months back - https://trm24.fr/la-penurie-de-routiers-persiste-dans-le-monde/
Headline says - "The shortage of trucker contues worlwide"
I've seen special news reports on French TV over the last 18 months or so, saying that it's also bad in Holland and Germany.9 -
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A few people saying they blame the media for the panic buying. The media (I’m talking TV news here) is only the messenger. It’s politicians telling people not to panic buy, not the media. You can’t expect the media to impose a media blackout on what the politicians are saying. (Although sometimes I feel it might not be a bad idea generally).IanJRO said:
I don't know the ins and outs but believe some of the impacts are only being seen now as the economy is recovering from the pandemic and so greater strain is being put on the supply chains.ShootersHillGuru said:
Any idea why there hasn’t been an issue getting petrol to forecourts prior to this week ? I can’t work out why it’s suddenly an issue. The driver issue has been around for months.IanJRO said:Reason for this is a labour shortage caused by a combination of Covid and Brexit.
Ending FoM has screwed us when it comes to a ready supply of labour for lower paid jobs, combine this with increasing absenteeism due to the pandemic and it is causing problems across many industries.
Before anyone starts about politics, this isn't a political stance it's just the facts of the matter!
None of this is being helped by the media telling people not to start panic buying which of course has the opposite effect!Newspapers are a different kettle of fish.0 -
My sister used to live in Holland, and is still in touch with friends over there.
She said there’s a shortage of HGV drivers there as well, and supermarket shelves are bare, so it’s not just us.3 -
Was in Holland this week. Mcdonalds still has milkshakes, the supermarkets still have bottled water and guess what no queues for Petrol. I'll grab you some photos next time. I'm there again in a few weeks.Mendonca In Asdas said:My sister used to live in Holland, and is still in touch with friends over there.
She said there’s a shortage of HGV drivers there as well, and supermarket shelves are bare, so it’s not just us.2 -
Except headlining those statements in dramatic fashion and having reporters on busy forecourt’s is not just acting as a messenger.JamesSeed said:
A few people saying they blame the media for the panic buying. The media is only the messenger. It’s politicians telling people not to panic buy, not the media. You can’t expect the media to impose a media blackout on what the politicians are saying. (Although sometimes I feel it might not be a bad idea generally).IanJRO said:
I don't know the ins and outs but believe some of the impacts are only being seen now as the economy is recovering from the pandemic and so greater strain is being put on the supply chains.ShootersHillGuru said:
Any idea why there hasn’t been an issue getting petrol to forecourts prior to this week ? I can’t work out why it’s suddenly an issue. The driver issue has been around for months.IanJRO said:Reason for this is a labour shortage caused by a combination of Covid and Brexit.
Ending FoM has screwed us when it comes to a ready supply of labour for lower paid jobs, combine this with increasing absenteeism due to the pandemic and it is causing problems across many industries.
Before anyone starts about politics, this isn't a political stance it's just the facts of the matter!
None of this is being helped by the media telling people not to start panic buying which of course has the opposite effect!2 -
People are idiots yes but these lot are c*nts.
24 hours later…
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Unfortunately we are a nation of bedwetters. I guarantee most of the people in those lines had no need for petrol, in fact most of the people 'sniffing' around on here for petrol stations with no lines have no need for petrol. I would also add most of the dumdums in 45 minute lines for petrol would say "I'm not influenced by mass media" We need to wake up to the fact most of the nation are sheep blindly following what the news tells them unless it doesn't fit their small minded agendas. The inability of 85% of the population to hold their mud is actually pretty darn funny.valleynick66 said:
Except headlining those statements in dramatic fashion and having reporters on busy forecourt’s is not just acting as a messenger.JamesSeed said:
A few people saying they blame the media for the panic buying. The media is only the messenger. It’s politicians telling people not to panic buy, not the media. You can’t expect the media to impose a media blackout on what the politicians are saying. (Although sometimes I feel it might not be a bad idea generally).IanJRO said:
I don't know the ins and outs but believe some of the impacts are only being seen now as the economy is recovering from the pandemic and so greater strain is being put on the supply chains.ShootersHillGuru said:
Any idea why there hasn’t been an issue getting petrol to forecourts prior to this week ? I can’t work out why it’s suddenly an issue. The driver issue has been around for months.IanJRO said:Reason for this is a labour shortage caused by a combination of Covid and Brexit.
Ending FoM has screwed us when it comes to a ready supply of labour for lower paid jobs, combine this with increasing absenteeism due to the pandemic and it is causing problems across many industries.
Before anyone starts about politics, this isn't a political stance it's just the facts of the matter!
None of this is being helped by the media telling people not to start panic buying which of course has the opposite effect!4 -
And if you read the Daily Mail...welll enough said..BR7_addick said:People are idiots yes but these lot are c*nts.24 hours later…0 -
Picture the scene. Post apocalyptic Britain is in full swing…. Scores of broken down and looted cars on the streets…. And along comes Nige whistling Addicks to Victory with a spring in his step like Dick Van Dyke at his peakWheresmeticket? said:
#WalkingisbrilliantAddickted said:Well I've not got enough fuel to get to The Valley and back tomorrow.
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Someone at the bbc has a very dry sense of humour when deciding who should report on the fuel fiasco.
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Last Saturday morning i put in 20 notes worth of Petrol at a garage in North London. Back then only 3 pumps out of 12 only had any unleaded left. No one was panicking. No one knew any different
However this bunch of clowns in Government and the idiots in the British media (Tv, Radio and Newspapers) highlighting the fact has now caused this situation.If any of them had a Brain cell between them they would be dangerous.4 -
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Of course they are. They’ve lost the guys who would drive for peanuts.BR7_addick said:
No one is denying there’s issues around Europe. Our own HGV bosses are saying it’s a combination of Covid and B*****Gribbo said:ShootersHillGuru said:
But right.cafcdave123 said:
whatever, you're boring.BR7_addick said:
Taking what hint, if it’s relevant to the thread I’ll post what I want when I want despite who it upsets. If you can’t stomach discussing the causes of the thread title that’s your problem not mine.cafcdave123 said:
textbook bellenderyBR7_addick said:
😂 Textbook response when found wanting.Gribbo said:
Shut up and go over onto the relevant Group discussion pages.BR7_addick said:
So what do you know that the head of UK haulage companies don’t then? If you have info they don’t you should help them out.Gribbo said:
Lorry driver shortages are Europewide mateBR7_addick said:
The thread is about fuel shortages.cafcdave123 said:
can I suggest you stop reading it then because you're bringing it onto a thread that isn't going down that road until you and rothko start banging on like all seeing all knowing authoritiesBR7_addick said:
Absolutely plastered all over social network. To be expected I guess.cafcdave123 said:
where has all this happened?BR7_addick said:
Pretty much how I see it.Uboat said:News outlets: THERE’S A PETROL CRISIS!!! (but don’t panic buy).
Also news outlets: it’s because of Covid and Brexit.The public: bloody Covid eh.Don’t forget Br..BLOODY COVID!
all we need is someone to mention race so paddy can rock up in all of his authority , its fucking boring
The fuel shortages are due to lorry driver shortages.
The lorry driver shortage is due to Covid and brexit.
So whether if upsets you or not, it is very much “down that road”. I have no authority on this subject bit of an odd point, I’m just repeating what most media outlets are airing.
Again, this is a fuel shortage thread, I’m discussing causes of the fuel shortage. It’s thee most relevant thread.
rather than taking the hint, trying to make others look wrong.
fucking boring
He's not right though.
Seeing as the discussion is continueing on here -
https://trans.info/en/there-s-a-europe-wide-hgv-driver-shortage-so-why-do-uk-supply-chains-seem-more-disrupted-254524
I'll be happy to post up the empty shelves that they sometimes have in my local supermarkets, with "not available" signs one the shelves, next time I'm in one1 -
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Is there a shortage of HGV drivers in America? Seems like where most of the pictures (as above) are coming from.1
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Eltham Hill at a complete standstill as it has just become a queue for the tesco petrol station.
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All this is helping with the discussion about getting an EV, that ID 4 is getting closer!1
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Does anyone know if this is a Europe-wide problem, like the shortage of HGV drivers? We haven't seen petrol shortages or panic buying here yet but wondered if it could be on its way. Haven't read all the way through the thread but what are the factors causing this in the UK?0
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I thought this was a joke until I just saw the bloke on TV and realised it is genuine!paulbaconsarnie said:Someone at the bbc has a very dry sense of humour when deciding who should report on the fuel fiasco.0 -
I do see where your point is coming from but the bottom line in any career being desirable is ultimately pay followed by decent working conditions. Read Carter’s post above and I think you’ll see why Brits are not attracted to lorry driving. I do agree though that over the last few decades not enough was done to encourage important and good careers with apprenticeship opportunities. There are I’m afraid always going to be some / many jobs where the only skills required will only attract low pay and poor conditions. I think you’re way off beam with saying a degree equips you with nothing. You might just as well say leaving school with A levels equips you withi nothing. What it does do is show any prospective employer that you have what it takes to learn and have staying power if nothing else.killerandflash said:If we're talking politics, the obsessions of politicians (especially Blair) that youngsters should get a degree instead of doing necessary work has also helped cause this problem.
There was something a bit odd that we brought in EU migrants to do essential jobs like building, plumbing or HGV driving, when so many of our own youngsters end up with degrees that equip them for nothing. Or leave school at 16 with nothing, and no career path into useful work1 -
Teed up nicely...CharltonMadrid said:Does anyone know if this is a Europe-wide problem, like the shortage of HGV drivers? We haven't seen petrol shortages or panic buying here yet but wondered if it could be on its way. Haven't read all the way through the thread but what are the factors causing this in the UK?0
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