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A question re Stockley’s suspension.
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Agreed. There's no way they'll overturn it, but as other posters have mentioned maybe they've done it knowing the appeal might take a week to be heard thus making him available for Plymouth.redman said:I can't believe we have appealed this. Absolutely zero chance of it getting overturned.
I must admit i thought these types of appeals were always heard pretty quickly though.0 -
With the only risk being an additional game which is an FA Cup game?0
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I don’t know, it looks like Stockley puts his hand on Deji’s face to push himself up. There’s also arguably an elbow from an outstretched arm but I can’t tell.SoundAsa£ said:
Even bigger top shithousery that he got a red card in the first place…..it was a scuffle, over in a few seconds.ElliotCAFC said:
Top shithousery if he scores on Saturday.cafcdave123 said:
he's available until the appeal is heard so if they couldn't hear the appeal till next week, he could play saturdayElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t work like that does it? As far as I’m aware, he’s definitely missing all 3 games until it’s overturned.cafcdave123 said:
I wouldn't be against us doing things like that, other clubs use these things to their advantageskillerandflash said:
That would be quite sneakycafcdave123 said:When will the appeal be heard? Is it possible we are appealing so we have him available Saturday for PlymouthIf it doesn’t get overturned (which is almost a certainty) then Stockley could get the ban extended for the incorrect appeal.Can’t imagine the powers at be will take 5 days to review that incident. After all, their processes are notoriously fast and efficient…It’s hardly the most scandalous red card I’ve seen. Jayden’s had this coming and he’s already a marked man from referees, it was only a matter of time.1 -
If it works out that way, the third game would be the FA cup second round? Or are we looking at Ipswich (H) instead of Plymouth (H)? Would all seem a bit pointless and kicking the problem down the road to me.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Agreed. There's no way they'll overturn it, but as other posters have mentioned maybe they've done it knowing the appeal might take a week to be heard thus making him available for Plymouth.redman said:I can't believe we have appealed this. Absolutely zero chance of it getting overturned.
I must admit i thought these types of appeals were always heard pretty quickly though.0 -
I think we'd rather a 'full valley' saw Stockley play against Plymouth than not?2
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Sort of agree with the consensus that it will prove a waste of time as the appeals mob never want to overturn the ref, but in reality it was a penalty to us in the first place.
Deji had no interest in the ball and was face to face with Jayden blocking any attempt to get to the ball, in trying to get to the ball a minor tussle occurred, they both ended up on the ground, neither wanting to be the first to release the other.
Bottle job from the Lino, and overreaction from Kettle, worth an appeal from both clubs imho..4 -
no chance this is overturned, more chance of it getting an extra game I reckon0
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Surely the club must have a valid reason for doing this, either they genuinely think it can be overturned, or, the appeal won't happen until next week, if neither is correct it's a waste of time and an extra match ban!0
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Do extra games get added on these days for frivolous appeals?
The Sankofa case was nearly 20 years ago!2 -
Lino gives the obvious penalty to us and then they don’t end up on the floor. Simple as that really IMO. Stockley pretty much had is shirt ripped off, which seems to happen in most games and largely goes unnoticed by officials.6
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If the Sunderland (non) incident hadn’t happened then there may have been a slight chance of this being overturned but Stockley is getting himself a bid of a reputation now and there’s no chance of this being overturned.2
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We have requested for our next EFL trophy game to be spread over two legs and played next Tuesday and Thursday.ForeverAddickted said:Rich Cawley tweeted during the game yesterday that it'll be the three League games5 -
Burton have four reds his season. They are bottom of the fair play league and we are in a relegation position. Maybe reputation’s influenced the officials.Bedsaddick said:If the Sunderland (non) incident hadn’t happened then there may have been a slight chance of this being overturned but Stockley is getting himself a bid of a reputation now and there’s no chance of this being overturned.0 -
It'll never get overturned.
We didn't use the word "handbags" in the appeal documentation.1 -
I believe Thomas sang handbags and gladrags at the appeal, followed by Addicks to Victory after winning said appeal.Addickted said:It'll never get overturned.
We didn't use the word "handbags" in the appeal documentation.3 -
Not sure 'it didn't take very long' is a particularly valid defence in these violent conduct reviewsSoundAsa£ said:
Even bigger top shithousery that he got a red card in the first place…..it was a scuffle, over in a few seconds.ElliotCAFC said:
Top shithousery if he scores on Saturday.cafcdave123 said:
he's available until the appeal is heard so if they couldn't hear the appeal till next week, he could play saturdayElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t work like that does it? As far as I’m aware, he’s definitely missing all 3 games until it’s overturned.cafcdave123 said:
I wouldn't be against us doing things like that, other clubs use these things to their advantageskillerandflash said:
That would be quite sneakycafcdave123 said:When will the appeal be heard? Is it possible we are appealing so we have him available Saturday for PlymouthIf it doesn’t get overturned (which is almost a certainty) then Stockley could get the ban extended for the incorrect appeal.Can’t imagine the powers at be will take 5 days to review that incident. After all, their processes are notoriously fast and efficient…
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From what I could see and admittedly it wasnt the best view it was something of nothing, yellow card each imo. Tbh the way Deji was hanging on before they went down I thought it was a penalty 🙄3
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Kettle must have wet his pants when he saw the slightest opportunity for TWO reds, although the Quest highlights suggest it wasn’t his worst decision; there have been too many of those to mention!0
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Listening to George from NTT20 podcast, he said that as he was annoyed with a ref in League 2 and didn’t want to be a hypocrite letting Stockley and Deji offKillarahales said:Kettle must have wet his pants when he saw the slightest opportunity for TWO reds, although the Quest highlights suggest it wasn’t his worst decision; there have been too many of those to mention!0 -
Ever see a blind man ref a game?ricky_otto said:
I believe Thomas sang handbags and gladrags at the appeal, followed by Addicks to Victory after winning said appeal.Addickted said:It'll never get overturned.
We didn't use the word "handbags" in the appeal documentation.
Trying to reduce either side?
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If you hit the 3 dots in YouTube (open link to get into YouTube app) to watch the incident at Speed 0.5 or 0.25, it does look quite different. It doesn't look that Stockley lashes out at him, but it also doesn't look a penalty either in slow motion!
https://youtu.be/MtvYk_oDpyI
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Do these Quest highlights show thr incident either more close up, or from a different angle, to the VP stream?. Because if not, I’m really puzzled by some of the comments which seek to portray it as an obvious red. Especially when the VP footage doesnt even give a view of the initIal holding by Deji which has been mainly reported by people who were there.1
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You can't fight on a football pitch.SoundAsa£ said:
Even bigger top shithousery that he got a red card in the first place…..it was a scuffle, over in a few seconds.ElliotCAFC said:
Top shithousery if he scores on Saturday.cafcdave123 said:
he's available until the appeal is heard so if they couldn't hear the appeal till next week, he could play saturdayElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t work like that does it? As far as I’m aware, he’s definitely missing all 3 games until it’s overturned.cafcdave123 said:
I wouldn't be against us doing things like that, other clubs use these things to their advantageskillerandflash said:
That would be quite sneakycafcdave123 said:When will the appeal be heard? Is it possible we are appealing so we have him available Saturday for PlymouthIf it doesn’t get overturned (which is almost a certainty) then Stockley could get the ban extended for the incorrect appeal.Can’t imagine the powers at be will take 5 days to review that incident. After all, their processes are notoriously fast and efficient…1 -
I assume the club may have other / different footage?1
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During the Charlton TV live coverage a replay of an incident was shown from a camera beside/behind the Burton goal. I only recall that angle used once which is a bit strange. Maybe the clubs are using that as evidence.valleynick66 said:I assume the club may have other / different footage?0 -
As demonstrated by the lack of fight shown by the team under Adkins.Croydon said:
You can't fight on a football pitch.SoundAsa£ said:
Even bigger top shithousery that he got a red card in the first place…..it was a scuffle, over in a few seconds.ElliotCAFC said:
Top shithousery if he scores on Saturday.cafcdave123 said:
he's available until the appeal is heard so if they couldn't hear the appeal till next week, he could play saturdayElliotCAFC said:
It doesn’t work like that does it? As far as I’m aware, he’s definitely missing all 3 games until it’s overturned.cafcdave123 said:
I wouldn't be against us doing things like that, other clubs use these things to their advantageskillerandflash said:
That would be quite sneakycafcdave123 said:When will the appeal be heard? Is it possible we are appealing so we have him available Saturday for PlymouthIf it doesn’t get overturned (which is almost a certainty) then Stockley could get the ban extended for the incorrect appeal.Can’t imagine the powers at be will take 5 days to review that incident. After all, their processes are notoriously fast and efficient…
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If we're appealing the red card to Stockers maybe Jacko is hoping to invoke the "Massive Principle" and get the punishment moved back to a later season?7
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If a scuffle was defined as a fight a lot more players would get sent off.5
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I’m not sure the initial holding matters, you simply can’t lash out with your elbow, no matter what and that’s what Stockley appears to have done.PragueAddick said:Do these Quest highlights show thr incident either more close up, or from a different angle, to the VP stream?. Because if not, I’m really puzzled by some of the comments which seek to portray it as an obvious red. Especially when the VP footage doesnt even give a view of the initIal holding by Deji which has been mainly reported by people who were there.0 -
Could be increased to 6 games:killerandflash said:Do extra games get added on these days for frivolous appeals?
The Sankofa case was nearly 20 years ago!
13.4 In the event the claim is rejected, the Regulatory Commission will in every case go on to consider whether or not the Player’s punishment should be increased. Where the Regulatory Commission considers that the claim had no prospect of success and/or amounts to an abuse of process, it shall have the discretion to increase the penalty up to twice the standard punishment.
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