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Match Thread (+Post p23): Gateshead vs Charlton | FA Cup 2nd Round | Fri 3rd Dec 2021, 7.45pm
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The problem with the commentary was 20% bias, 80% unprofessionalism.A small match on ITV4 is where ITV bloods their 3rd level commentators and pundits, but you’d have thought that the need for research would be drummed into them. The fact that it clearly hasn’t been is a failure of management. The Charlton Live boys seem more professional and knowledgable in that respect.
Purrington/Pure-ington we a classic example of not checking with the Charlton comms boys how to pronounce their names. They got Lecko right (it’s pronounced ‘Leecko’) only because they ‘bumped into him’ before the game. Not knowing Euell is a coach was poor. They didn’t offer any info on any of our players as far as I can remember. No mention of which players are on loan etc.Hopefully they’ll learn from this match, and go on to better things, as I’m sure there decent guys. They just need to make quite a lot more of an effort.7 -
Sam Matterface is ITV number 1 commentator sadlyJamesSeed said:The problem with the commentary was 20% bias, 80% unprofessionalism.A small match on ITV4 is where ITV bloods their 3rd level commentators and pundits, but you’d have thought that the need for research would be drummed into them. The fact that it clearly hasn’t been is a failure of management. The Charlton Live boys seem more professional and knowledgable in that respect.
Purrington/Pure-ington we a classic example of not checking with the Charlton comms boys how to pronounce their names. They got Lecko right (it’s pronounced ‘Leecko’) only because they ‘bumped into him’ before the game. Not knowing Euell is a coach was poor. They didn’t offer any info on any of our players as far as I can remember. No mention of which players are on loan etc.Hopefully they’ll learn from this match, and go on to better things, as I’m sure there decent guys. They just need to make quite a lot more of an effort.5 -
Except Matterface commentators on all England Full mens internationals alongside Lee Dixon for ITVJamesSeed said:The problem with the commentary was 20% bias, 80% unprofessionalism.A small match on ITV4 is where ITV bloods their 3rd level commentators and pundits, but you’d have thought that the need for research would be drummed into them. The fact that it clearly hasn’t been is a failure of management. The Charlton Live boys seem more professional and knowledgable in that respect.
Purrington/Pure-ington we a classic example of not checking with the Charlton comms boys how to pronounce their names. They got Lecko right (it’s pronounced ‘Leecko’) only because they ‘bumped into him’ before the game. Not knowing Euell is a coach was poor. They didn’t offer any info on any of our players as far as I can remember. No mention of which players are on loan etc.Hopefully they’ll learn from this match, and go on to better things, as I’m sure there decent guys. They just need to make quite a lot more of an effort.3 -
Both Beckford and Matterface were piss poor and need to watch the Man Utd game from Thursday night on how to commentate on a game. Drury and McCoist are the masters at it.4
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Amazon seem to have hit a sweet spot with commentary, actually a bit of a shame they only have 2 rounds of games a seasonshirty5 said:Both Beckford and Matterface were piss poor and need to watch the Man Utd game from Thursday night on how to commentate on a game. Drury and McCoist are the masters at it.0 -
The commentary annoyed the tits off me but it wasn’t any perceived bias towards Gateshead that was the issue, you have to expect that in an FA Cup match. It was the lack of research, limited vocabulary, and seeming inability to speak in coherent sentences that was winding me up (and some of that goes for Matterface as well).ForeverAddickted said:Oh piss off Jermaine, shouldnt have to apologise for something like thatI’m sure Beckford is a nice enough fella though, and it’s one of those jobs that looks a lot easier than it is. Can’t see why he needs to apologize and if Charlton fans have been after him on twitter for it then they need to get a life.7 -
I really thought that his video was going to be about some kind of Social Media abuse that he'd received for the commentary on Friday night, rather than the apology.Exiled_Addick said:
The commentary annoyed the tits off me but it wasn’t any perceived bias towards Gateshead that was the issue, you have to expect that in an FA Cup match. It was the lack of research, limited vocabulary, and seeming inability to speak in coherent sentences that was winding me up (and some of that goes for Matterface as well).ForeverAddickted said:Oh piss off Jermaine, shouldnt have to apologise for something like thatI’m sure Beckford is a nice enough fella though, and it’s one of those jobs that looks a lot easier than it is. Can’t see why he needs to apologize and if Charlton fans have been after him on twitter for it then they need to get a life.0 -
You expect the commentary to be more about the underdog, but Beckford got the balance a bit wrong.Miserableoldgit said:Whilst not loving the commentary last night I didn't really dislike Beckford either. Thought he was upbeat and that he was enjoying the game. Slight bias towards Gateshead, just like, probably, 100% of the neutrals watching. Can't understand why people would post abuse towards him. Now, Matterface......that's a different story.
And as the Gateshead players are full time (albeit on low wages) it's not like the old days where you'd have the team of policemen, postmen etc that everyone wants to do well.0 -
Not a dig at you, but what’s an “official” complaint in this context? Always makes me laugh that. What if it was “unofficial”?Croydon said:Just seen a fan has put in an official complaint to ITV over the commentary last night. Add that to the long long list of people demanding apologies and just generally moaning.
Can't take the piss out of any fanbase when we have people like that among us. Palace behaviour.2 -
anyone know the official attendance?0
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This with bells on (as it’s Christmas). I didn’t think I’d ever find a commentator more excruciatingly smug than Tyldesley only to find that his immediate successor is potentially even worse. I can’t listen to him. Irritates me even more than Robyn Cowan and that takes some doing. Fair play to Beckford for the apology. Whether he was told to or not, it took balls. He was truly awful last night even if he was following a brief. Add in the lamentably snug Pougatch to the mix and I now totally despair of ITV coverage, especially of England.lordromford said:
Sam Matterface, for some bizarre reason, thinks the route to being a great commentator is to mimic the indulgent, smug, self-important, painfully unfunny, desperate-to-be-liked, cheesy, ignorant commentary style of Clive Tyldesley.boggzy said:Embarrassing all round - "I want to see Dobson getting more involved and seeing him spray passes around like we're used to week in, week out" said Beckford the Charlton season ticket holder.
Everything's been said above, both commentators were awful and literally blagging it re players and history, so much verbal diarrhoea.
Yes Beckford was ridiculous in his bias in the first five minutes or so (certainly didn't warrant an apology ffs), but it was more that they were both excruciatingly awful commentators.
The irony is that, by doing this, he might just be able to achieve something I never thought possible - become a worse commentator than Clive Tyldesley.2 -
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Newcastle vs Burnley was equally as turgid!0
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I know. Crazy isn’t it.shirty5 said:
Except Matterface commentators on all England Full mens internationals alongside Lee Dixon for ITVJamesSeed said:The problem with the commentary was 20% bias, 80% unprofessionalism.A small match on ITV4 is where ITV bloods their 3rd level commentators and pundits, but you’d have thought that the need for research would be drummed into them. The fact that it clearly hasn’t been is a failure of management. The Charlton Live boys seem more professional and knowledgable in that respect.
Purrington/Pure-ington we a classic example of not checking with the Charlton comms boys how to pronounce their names. They got Lecko right (it’s pronounced ‘Leecko’) only because they ‘bumped into him’ before the game. Not knowing Euell is a coach was poor. They didn’t offer any info on any of our players as far as I can remember. No mention of which players are on loan etc.Hopefully they’ll learn from this match, and go on to better things, as I’m sure there decent guys. They just need to make quite a lot more of an effort.0 -
Was just going off a tweet I saw. I assume an email to whatever ITV's complaints department is? Just overly busy imoAirman Brown said:
Not a dig at you, but what’s an “official” complaint in this context? Always makes me laugh that. What if it was “unofficial”?Croydon said:Just seen a fan has put in an official complaint to ITV over the commentary last night. Add that to the long long list of people demanding apologies and just generally moaning.
Can't take the piss out of any fanbase when we have people like that among us. Palace behaviour.0 -
You need to take some anger lessons.Wheresmeticket? said:I don't give a shit about commentators. There. I've said it.
You should be absolutely fuming and contacting ITV.1 -
really thought he was gonna do an Adkins like video.JohnnyH2 said:
"Good morning everybody. Hope you're all well. Walking is brilliant..."4 -
One of great strengths during the Curbishley PL era was we slipped under the radar by all clubs, supporters and the media within it. It allowed us to go about out business very efficiently, the number of away games we would win where the opposition supporters would get on the own teams backs after 20 minutes because it was 'only Charlton'. We even used to get managers sacked when we beat them as if you could beat Charlton what hope did you have.
Last night showed not much has changed and that is just great. So what if the ITV and Talksport Number 1 commentator knows very little about us. We just went about the job in hand and in slip under the TV expectation of a shock and we go into the 3rd Round.
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Well I can't and wont forgive him for going to West Ham at 17 just because they bought his mum a house, thus depriving us of a decent fee.Exiled_Addick said:
The commentary annoyed the tits off me but it wasn’t any perceived bias towards Gateshead that was the issue, you have to expect that in an FA Cup match. It was the lack of research, limited vocabulary, and seeming inability to speak in coherent sentences that was winding me up (and some of that goes for Matterface as well).ForeverAddickted said:Oh piss off Jermaine, shouldnt have to apologise for something like thatI’m sure Beckford is a nice enough fella though, and it’s one of those jobs that looks a lot easier than it is. Can’t see why he needs to apologize and if Charlton fans have been after him on twitter for it then they need to get a life.
(I've done no research, by the way)6 -
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Still not home. On the train back to kings x4
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Beckford was poor,didnt even mention Lyle0
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I noticed Matterface mention Michael Smith had played for Gateshead but not that he played for us which would have made it a great fact to bring in and a few other missed details. Not sure how important it is though. Motson would have probably known. Certainly nothing to complain about.0
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Michael Smith never played for Gateshead, unless Im thinking of the wrong one?MuttleyCAFC said:I noticed Matterface mention Michael Smith had played for Gateshead but not that he played for us which would have made it a great fact to bring in and a few other missed details. Not sure how important it is though. Motson would have probably known. Certainly nothing to complain about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Smith_(footballer,_born_1991)
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Just arrived home, train took just over five hours from Sunderland to Kings Cross.EricBanterna said:Still not home. On the train back to kings x4 -
I'm sure Matterface said he had.ForeverAddickted said:
Michael Smith never played for Gateshead, unless Im thinking of the wrong one?MuttleyCAFC said:I noticed Matterface mention Michael Smith had played for Gateshead but not that he played for us which would have made it a great fact to bring in and a few other missed details. Not sure how important it is though. Motson would have probably known. Certainly nothing to complain about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Smith_(footballer,_born_1991)0 -
Tbh mate.ElfsborgAddick said:
A bit chilly last night mate?SE7toSG3 said:I can confirm there is no roof
@clb74, @Covered End and myself were thinking of you last night whilst we were in the warmth of The Bricklayers in Bromley.
I wish I'd gone up there and frozen my b@llocks off in me shorts.
Still got earache and headache from your non stop talking.1 -
It wasn't that cold tbf, in by 2 amd the Schooner was a proper pub selling proper beer. See you both at Huddersfield for the next round!1
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Our train got delayed so missed our connection at Doncasterclive said:
Just arrived home, train took just over five hours from Sunderland to Kings Cross.EricBanterna said:Still not home. On the train back to kings x0 -
@Grapevine49 used the word “context” in his analysis of last night’s performance. Today’s results give a wider context:
Lincoln: OUT. Beaten at home by Hartlepool
even better…
Portsmouth OUT , beaten at home in the 9th minute of injury time by Harrogate
Ipswich, held to a 0-0 draw at home by Barrow, good luck with the replay if you can actually get there…all this despite being managed by Paul Cook.I trust Thomas has already taken on board this wider context….4
