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"Could you even in your wildest dreams imagine him making the challenge on our goal line that Millar made Tuesday?"Redrobo said:
Fosu plays best on the left side of a three. When he does not play there I think he is poor. Not a winger, not a striker. Robinson should always be his manager as any manager that does not play a three up front is going to struggle with Fosu.blackpool72 said:
Fosu is typical of the sort of player Bowyer struggles with.soapboxsam said:Fosu left after his relationship broke down with Lee Bowyer. I couldn't have been the only person who thought he had talent but had lost his way.
Maddison at 27 should be at his peak and tearing up League 1.
The omens don't look good after Bowyers words after MM short Bizarre cameo in his last match.
Personally gutted as he is the best striker of a football in our squad.
Oztumer
Williams
Maddison
All on that list.I don’t think Williams should be on that list and has recently shown the desire to track back. I think it is his lack of goals and assists that count against him. He is now a good sub impact player for me, and I have a lot of respect for any player that can join the fray and immediately start performing. That is not easy.
This thread is about Maddison though. Could you even in your wildest dreams imagine him making the challenge on our goal line that Millar made Tuesday? Millar has that winning mentality on top of his talent.We should all struggle with a player that does not give 100% for every minute he is on the pitch, and to do that you must also perform in training.
I could even imagine MM making a goal line headed clearance in the 86th or whatever minute against Sunderland that saved us from losing in his first 10mins on the pitch for us...
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And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did12
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Can we stop going on like this is the terrible crime Mad Lee thinks it is?oohaahmortimer said:And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did4 -
All you have to do is skip one thread to stop being fed up reading about himOff_it said:Fed up with reading about the bloke. Some people seem to think hes the messiah and are very willing to take his side over a bloke who has sweated blood for the club over the past few years. Shame on you.
If Bowyer doesnt rate him or want to play him that's fine with me. Hes the boss and he will have seen more of the player than any of us. That's his job and he stands or falls by his decisions.
How about just backing him when the chips are down. Rather than picking over everything and trying to bring him down because you think you know better about a player you've barely seen.
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Marcus Maddison:
The Messiah 0.5%
Talented maverick who needs careful handling 22.5%
Disruptive wanker who needs a good kicking 32.5%
Lazy northern bloke with tats we just don't like 0.5%
Too depressed to care or add up properly 68.5%
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All of them were available to us for a reason, only Fosu has gone on to better things.blackpool72 said:
Fosu is typical of the sort of player Bowyer struggles with.soapboxsam said:Fosu left after his relationship broke down with Lee Bowyer. I couldn't have been the only person who thought he had talent but had lost his way.
Maddison at 27 should be at his peak and tearing up League 1.
The omens don't look good after Bowyers words after MM short Bizarre cameo in his last match.
Personally gutted as he is the best striker of a football in our squad.
Oztumer
Williams
Maddison
All on that list.
Fosu didn't suit Bowyer's system at the time and wasn't willing or able to up his work rate. Maybe he's learnt from that and improved since - Brentford will have high expectations considering they're aiming for promotion to the Prem.
Oztumer only ever stood out when playing regularly for a smaller League 1 club. We didn't have the budget to sign a more proven flair player, we brought him in as a squad player and that's what he was for us. Did anyone really think he'd go beyond that and stand out in the Championship?
Williams has carried on doing what he did at Palace - being a squad player who's never fit enough to play regularly. Difficult to see him ever playing regularly even at League 1 level, never mind higher up.
I won't write Maddison off yet but he's got a lot to do to prove he should play regularly again in this league - I'm not sure he'll find another club like Peterborough who accept his limitations and play him regularly regardless.
If Bowyer isn't capable of managing these players then with the right manager they should go on to prove him wrong.1 -
He subbed off Williams and Maddison and slaughtered them in the press for this, but no mention of Millar not getting a toe on Swindon's goal...Leuth said:
Can we stop going on like this is the terrible crime Mad Lee thinks it is?oohaahmortimer said:And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did
Good to see Millar seemingly listening and developing...1 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9lfD1NDJH4
Pulling out of a tackle is only bad when both David Beckham and Paul Scholes do it in the same move to help knock England out of a World Cup
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Ashley Cole doesn't take the yellow too. Oh god it's all there. Bowyer probably watched it and had a fit he wasn't in the team lol1
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Cnuts that’s the first time I’ve seen that since being there Live for that in Japan 2002, I was behind that goal just slightly to the right
Although after 3-4 weeks on the beer out there I was properly fucked and half glad it was all over , was booking the flight home on the way out of the ground .
Our mobiles didn’t work in Japan and I hired one from UK to use out there , would make a few prank calls to wake mates up at stupid o’clock and just put the phone down not realising it was costing £6 a time ffs (it was an ongoing thing between a few of us , yes very childish )
the phone bill came to around £2k for a month out there 🤢9 - Sponsored links:
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Think that was tongue in cheek, could be wrong.addick1956 said:
How do you know that?oohaahmortimer said:And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did
He's dived maybe 3 or 4 times since joining and jumped a couple of tackles.1 -
I think it is in reference to the 2nd Swindon goal when Miller did not get stuck in enough allowing their player to win the ball and get the goaladdick1956 said:
How do you know that?oohaahmortimer said:And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did3 -
I reckon most people "got the sarcasm/joke/reference".JohnnyH2 said:
I think it is in reference to the 2nd Swindon goal when Miller did not get stuck in enough allowing their player to win the ball and get the goaladdick1956 said:
How do you know that?oohaahmortimer said:And millar would never pull out of a tackle like Maddison did5 -
I'm pretty sure that there must be something going on behind the scenes that we dont know about. It is a real shame because if something cannot be resolved both sides are losing out. LB obviously knows the talent is there to be a game changer but if the head isnt wired correctly not much anyone can do is there. I would love to see him whipping balls into the box for the strikers we now have to call on but I doubt it is something we will get to see2
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https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marcus-maddison-retirement-bolton-wanderers-fifa-streaming-twitch-1367428 Article mentions three clubs in a year but does not name Charlton
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Not surprised.Masterbrew said:https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marcus-maddison-retirement-bolton-wanderers-fifa-streaming-twitch-1367428 Article mentions three clubs in a year but does not name Charlton0 -
Might start streaming Golden Eye on Gamecube. See how it goes....0
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I’ve a lot of sympathy for him dealing with his mental demons.Masterbrew said:https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/marcus-maddison-retirement-bolton-wanderers-fifa-streaming-twitch-1367428 Article mentions three clubs in a year but does not name CharltonHowever, he seems to think he’ll just be able to walk into a league one side whenever he feels like it, not have to do what the manager says, follow a fitness and diet routine of his choice and have a free role in the team to turn it on whenever he wants. I’d say that’s seriously detached from reality. He’ll do well to get a contract from any league club. A real shame because he’s a genuine talent. He’s just not good enough for any league side to make that sort of sacrifice on the off chance he’ll perform.7 -
I don't have much time for him personally.0
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Sorry for the lads mental health battles, and wish him well in the future. Inside was a Championship footballer, saw flashes of it with us. Needed too be loved for himself not his ability with a football.
But if he thinks football treats you like a robot, wait until he has to get up at 04.45 every morning to get to work to start a shift at 06.00am in the freezing cold, pissing rain, with the manager who couldn't give
a monkeys about you, your family, or mental, physical health. All for just above minimum wage.
Because that is the reality for most working class people.
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Yep, I think your well written post pretty much sum's up the way I feel about him & his situation.usetobunkin said:Sorry for the lads mental health battles, and wish him well in the future. Inside was a Championship footballer, saw flashes of it with us. Needed too be loved for himself not his ability with a football.
But if he thinks football treats you like a robot, wait until he has to get up at 04.45 every morning to get to work to start a shift at 06.00am in the freezing cold, pissing rain, with the manager who couldn't give
a monkeys about you, your family, or mental, physical health. All for just above minimum wage.
Because that is the reality for most working class people.2 -
spot on - he'd better hope he has a few quid tucked away, or else he's in for a shock when he really has to workusetobunkin said:Sorry for the lads mental health battles, and wish him well in the future. Inside was a Championship footballer, saw flashes of it with us. Needed too be loved for himself not his ability with a football.
But if he thinks football treats you like a robot, wait until he has to get up at 04.45 every morning to get to work to start a shift at 06.00am in the freezing cold, pissing rain, with the manager who couldn't give
a monkeys about you, your family, or mental, physical health. All for just above minimum wage.
Because that is the reality for most working class people.0 -
Very sad to see an obvious talent go to waste.0
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Pretty sure he has decided to try once again to be a pro but I think he’s too far gone now.
can’t see this story ending particularly pleasantly at this rate0 -
“It won’t be for a while and if I do it, it’s on my own terms,”
Good luck with that Marcus.
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Yup……all reeks of self importance / entitlement.HandG said:“It won’t be for a while and if I do it, it’s on my own terms,”
Good luck with that Marcus.
You ain’t George Best mate.2 -
Looking back on it, they did well there - got a few decent seasons out of him and then got some money in, whereas Hull, us and Bolton didn't see much from him.MrLargo said:Annoying, cos he's a very, very talented player. But Peterborough didn't pull up any trees to keep him, I recall their chairman sounding quite pleased to see the back of him, and he did absolutely nothing at Hull.0 -
So how do we make sure we also look at potential signings personality, so we sign the right people going forward?
The red flags were all there, was it just the fact we were skint and blinded by his numbers that we signed him?
Would MM still have come of the ‘black box’ if we were using it back then?0 -
If the Black Box can pick out Soure a player who nearly lost his leg and hadn’t played for 2 years then I’m sure MM would have looked a dead cert.
feel sorry for the guy and his troubles but he still seems to think he can just turn up and get a contract somewhere0
