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Chuks Aneke - speculation re 2023/24 season (p60)

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  • Great signing, we need the competition and particularly players who will make the opposition need to adapt to us. He will help give others in the team more room to work.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,810
    Well if his stint at Birmingham is anything to go by it is clear he is not a Championship striker so if promotion is our aim I assume he will be an impact sub if and when we get up during his 3.5 year contract. 
    not sure he's played too much there has he (I stand to be corrected!)

    great deal in my opinion, allows us to manage both his and Stockleys workloads.

    Those 2, Washington and Burstow emerging and I think we've got plenty of goals in there.
  • Very pleased with Chucks coming back, apart from some goals he shouldn't be bullied in games either by experienced defenders. 
  • I think Jacko putting Innis on as a forward underlined the priority. Seems the owner and recruitment team have backed the manager.
    I'm really positive about this signing.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    I don't agree that he was on our books last summer and we let him go. He ran down his contract and so was a free agent, thus nobody's player. He tarted himself around to the highest bidder which wasn't us. The fact he's now under contract and available to buy is down to Brum wanting rid.

    As others have suggested, he'll do a job but only for 30 minutes so if Stockley or Washington are out, who plays the other 60 mins from the start. 

    Chuks wants to be playing 30 minutes a week (not every game) and we need a proven striker, so that would be Chuks plus A. N. Other if he is signed.

    Should be a free if business sense applies. This is not building for the future, more putting a lick of paint on a rotten door! 
    That’s a very odd way of putting it. He’s a professional footballer. When their contracts are up they all seek the best deal available don’t they?
    And I’m pretty sure he can play more that 30 minutes. 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,255
    I'll be honest, I'm not sure what to think of this transfer.

    On one hand, we know him, he can score goals at this level, and he's a big lad who's commanding in the air, so he can be a good foil for Stockley.

    On the other hand, he rejected a contract in the summer, left on a free to work with our previous head coach, has been plagued by injuries and labelled as not being fit enough to play 90 minutes, and is now on higher wages than he would have been before and we had to pay a fee for him this time.

    I'm struggling to see it as a good piece of business on the club's part though, buying a player for a fee 6 months after he left you, it smacks of desperation more than anything, but we'll see
  • Chuks Aneke: Charlton Athletic re-sign Birmingham City striker - BBC Sport .. brief Chuks statement saying what we expected him to say 
    "I'm gutted my move back to the Championship didn't work out, and I've ended up back in poxy L1 again. At least I've got a 3 1/2 year contract though and another nice signing on fee"

    Surprisingly honest  :D
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2022
    Belv said:
    £300k for a player that left for nothing only 5 months ago.

    What a fantastic piece of business.
    I've been out this morning and just seen this and nothing else.

    I suspect I'm going to get whoosed here but are we really paying £300k for someone who left on a free transfer 7 months ago?


    Jeez, he didn't leave on a free transfer.
    He was out of contract.
    Fair enough. I just used the wrong term as I know his contract was up and he was free to go elsewhere.

    But I'm never going to agree with you that it is good business to let someone walk out the door and 7 months later, buy him back for £300k (if that is the true figure).

    What if he maintains his scoring record from when he was with us before? Of course it’s good business in those circumstances. We couldn’t stop him leaving, and now we’re buying him back on the cheap. 
    And as for the length of contract, wasn’t it TS who was talking about signing players on longer deals?
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Roll on the 23/24 season.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    sam3110 said:
    I'll be honest, I'm not sure what to think of this transfer.

    On one hand, we know him, he can score goals at this level, and he's a big lad who's commanding in the air, so he can be a good foil for Stockley.

    On the other hand, he rejected a contract in the summer, left on a free to work with our previous head coach, has been plagued by injuries and labelled as not being fit enough to play 90 minutes, and is now on higher wages than he would have been before and we had to pay a fee for him this time.

    I'm struggling to see it as a good piece of business on the club's part though, buying a player for a fee 6 months after he left you, it smacks of desperation more than anything, but we'll see
    I don't disagree, we are desperate for a striker. Would that not have been the case whoever we went in for though? The fact Aneke turned down a contract to move to Birmingham 6 months ago is completely irrelevant. 
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  • Well if his stint at Birmingham is anything to go by it is clear he is not a Championship striker so if promotion is our aim I assume he will be an impact sub if and when we get up during his 3.5 year contract. 
    Or we have a 3.5 year plan to get out of this league 😬☹️
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    ffs, did they only do a 20min medical because that’s all he can play?,probably worried he’d get injured!!. Well at least he’s back to his level. Can’t believe I’m going to have to watch that over rated lump again, however I’ll support him and hope for good things whilst in the Charlton shirt, begrudgingly.🤷🏻‍♂️.
  • Conor Washington is out of contract at the end of this season.

    I look forward to him trying his luck at Birmingham and us buying him back for £300k this time next year.


    We could always bring back Rocket Ronnie as  well.
  • JJ obviously knows a lot more about Chuks and his fitness levels than we do. Perhaps he can do more than the half hour cameos we saw under Bowyer.

    He's an excellent player at this level and if Jacko's happy, then I'm happy.
  • This seems like the strangest transfer we’ve ever done?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,989
    sam3110 said:
    I'll be honest, I'm not sure what to think of this transfer.

    On one hand, we know him, he can score goals at this level, and he's a big lad who's commanding in the air, so he can be a good foil for Stockley.

    On the other hand, he rejected a contract in the summer, left on a free to work with our previous head coach, has been plagued by injuries and labelled as not being fit enough to play 90 minutes, and is now on higher wages than he would have been before and we had to pay a fee for him this time.

    I'm struggling to see it as a good piece of business on the club's part though, buying a player for a fee 6 months after he left you, it smacks of desperation more than anything, but we'll see
    14th in L1 is pretty desperate.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    if he can stay fit and play enough this fills a very big short term hole
  • I'm not disappointed, because the bloke is a very decent forward on his day.
    However, a 3 1/2 year deal is a big gamble given his injury record.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited January 2022
    He is a good player sure. 

    But does point to a poor recruitment and retention history. To lose a player for free only to have to buy him back 6 months later is pretty terrible business. 
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  • I loved Chuks, and was actually a bit gutted when he left.

    Can’t blame Chuks for wanting to try his luck in the championship, so absolutely no hard feelings, he’s what we need right now, but is he what we want long term?

    A 3.5 year deal for a player we know can’t play 90 match minutes week in, week out sounds crackers, I guess we didn’t want to take on any more ‘project’ strikers, this is a quick fix signing, but I don’t think it’s been thought through.

    Just hope fans don’t get on his back if he doesn’t start scoring goals from day one

    Welcome back Chuks!
  • Was it ever revealed what the injury issues were/are?
  • Was it ever revealed what the injury issues were/are?
    Not publicly, I thought it was muscle related, but have heard it was a mental thing, I think it’s all just conjecture and speculation, Bowyer has had enough of him by the sounds of it.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,733
    paulfox said:
    ffs, did they only do a 20min medical because that’s all he can play?,probably worried he’d get injured!!. Well at least he’s back to his level. Can’t believe I’m going to have to watch that over rated lump again, however I’ll support him and hope for good things whilst in the Charlton shirt, begrudgingly.🤷🏻‍♂️.
    Yeah it sounds like it ….
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241
    Good signing, be an even better signing once we bring in a number 9 as I've got a feeling Stockley is going to be out for a while. Stockton, Oliver, Mandron, Bishop I'd take any of them 
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    edited January 2022
    The amount of people saying "But we released him on a free in the summer!"

    No we didnt. We offered him a deal, a club in a higher division offered him a bigger deal which he accepted. If we had our way he would never have left.
    Astounding how many people cant wrap their heads around this.
    I don’t think some people want to wrap their heads around it, to be honest. Doesn’t suit the narrative some have of having a go at the owner.
  • IAgree
    IAgree Posts: 1,839
    Bouji news! 
  • Chizz said:
    Belv said:
    £300k for a player that left for nothing only 5 months ago.

    What a fantastic piece of business.
    I've been out this morning and just seen this and nothing else.

    I suspect I'm going to get whoosed here but are we really paying £300k for someone who left on a free transfer 7 months ago?


    Jeez, he didn't leave on a free transfer.
    He was out of contract.
    Fair enough. I just used the wrong term as I know his contract was up and he was free to go elsewhere.

    But I'm never going to agree with you that it is good business to let someone walk out the door and 7 months later, buy him back for £300k (if that is the true figure).

    Would you be persuaded if, for example, the total cost of his return (transfer fee plus salary) were significantly less than we would have had to pay to keep him (salary plus salary uplift, plus signing-on fee)? 
    That's a really good question. And, in honesty, yes I'd probably change my mind if that were the case. But as we will never know the figures its all a moot point.

    However, even if the cost is significantly less, I could argue that the overall cost will still be significantly higher as we are stuck in this awful league for at least another season. Who knows if Aneke had been signed up last year whether we would now be sitting in one of the top 2 places instead of facing a difficult trip to Cheltenham tomorrow where defeat will leave us looking over our shoulders rather uncomfortably.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    3.5 years is a statement.  A risk because of the injuries but too good for this league when he is fit.

    Pleased he's back as we clearly needed some one up top and he was good last year.

    Doesn't fit into the model that Thomas set out of young players we can develop and not injured though.

    But he was keen to come (heard a few weeks back he was ringing up asking to come) and Jacko knows him

    Lyle to Brum next?.
  • T
    T Posts: 1,348
    Pretty sure deal will be structured as such that we're not paying much more than we would have been if he'd have signed improved terms last summer.   Pleased to have him back but echo eveything else thats been said 
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