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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Dazzler21 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Your argument is astoundingly good. 

    He's probably had 30 good performances in there and maybe 30 bad performances. The remaining almost 30 he's been about the level a 20/21/22 year old is expected to be when their ceiling is probably this level. 
    But we want to be above this level no? 

    Currently he is a League Two level player because of his lack of disclipine and intelligence when on the pitch. We shouldn't be wanting to give him opportunities when we want to be higher up the division and challenging for promotion. 

    Give him a loan out and get a player in that shows more promise than a Lower League One ceiling. 
    Well he was a regular in our promotion winning sides end of season run in this league. Played 20 odd games in the Championship too. 

    Personally I think he will find his progression occurs at another club.
    Be curious to see how he does if he drops to League Two on a permanent deal

    Neither Lapslie or Wiredu overly impressed when given opportunities with the First Team (Although their chances were even more fleeting than Albie's), yet since they've left, there have been questions as to why they were let go.
    Both left because the club preferred to keep Morgan on. Do you think he's better than either? 
    Neither left because of Morgan. 

    Lapslie was a defensive midfielder and Wiredu a winger/fullback at the time of leaving. 

    Ironically Wiredu would probably be useful as a RWB for us right now.
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Who's asking if we should have kept Lapslie? He's found his level at Mansfield hasn't he?
  • Croydon said:
    Who's asking if we should have kept Lapslie? He's found his level at Mansfield hasn't he?
    I seem to recall a number of posts last season when he went on a bit of a scoring run.

    A few certainly asked why we'd let Lapslie go and not Pratley
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    I think Lapslie has shown more in Charlton colours than Morgan ever has. 

    For what it's worth I wouldn't have any of them back though. 
    Fwiw I'd have prime Messi and Ronaldo on our wings in a 4-5-1 with ibrahimovic up top.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    edited January 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
  • Isn’t a first team player playing for the U23’s not seen as a punishment or a way of regaining match fitness after an injury though? 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    Thought Albie played well today personally. If we're serious about getting out of the league then we'll need to improve on him, but that can be said about the entire midfield though.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
    Training with I fully understand but surely it makes sense for Davison to play for the u23s midweek this week.  That means Morgan, at 21, has had 1 game and change in 3 months, that can't be right for his development. 
  • RedPanda
    RedPanda Posts: 4,988
    Has too low a football IQ, will do very well when dropping down a level. 

    Was okay today, kept running into dead ends but was out of position on the left.

    He's already had enough chances though IMO
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  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
    Training with I fully understand but surely it makes sense for Davison to play for the u23s midweek this week.  That means Morgan, at 21, has had 1 game and change in 3 months, that can't be right for his development. 
    I suppose the question there is whether more development will occur in playing youth football or in training with pros.

    I'm going to guess it'd be in the 'development' side.
  • Morgan played well today. One of the few players out there who looked like a proper footballer, running with the ball into space and passing it to other players instead of just hoofing it forward
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    Albies  a luxury player, a decent player on his day but a luxury in a side. 

    His more suited to team being built around him and opposed to him being told to do a job 
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    edited January 2022
    paulfox said:
    Solidgone said:
    Morgan played well today in a poor team.
    🥱🥱🥱🙄
    Weird comment
    No just fucking bored of people pretending Morgan is good and is going turn into something he’s not.🥱🥱 nearly 90 appearances and not 1st choice for a reason.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,770
    To me, he's the alternative to Elliot Lee in this squad. And what we really need is a quality squad where Elliot Lee becomes the alternative option off the bench.

    Couldn't see how Lee and Morgan were going to fit into the same team today. It was made possible by Albie playing deeper than Gilbey would have been that severly limited our ability to get bodies into the box at key moments. Unfortunately Albie isn't positionally aware enough to play the playmaker from deep role on his own, it would have to be alongside a destroyer Dobson-type.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
    Training with I fully understand but surely it makes sense for Davison to play for the u23s midweek this week.  That means Morgan, at 21, has had 1 game and change in 3 months, that can't be right for his development. 
    I suppose the question there is whether more development will occur in playing youth football or in training with pros.

    I'm going to guess it'd be in the 'development' side.
    Take it to the extreme is it any good Burstow, or Davison, playing 10 minutes here and there and NOT playing for the u23s for the rest of the season if the senior strikers are all fit? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
    Training with I fully understand but surely it makes sense for Davison to play for the u23s midweek this week.  That means Morgan, at 21, has had 1 game and change in 3 months, that can't be right for his development. 
    I suppose the question there is whether more development will occur in playing youth football or in training with pros.

    I'm going to guess it'd be in the 'development' side.
    Take it to the extreme is it any good Burstow, or Davison, playing 10 minutes here and there and NOT playing for the u23s for the rest of the season if the senior strikers are all fit? 
    Oh absolutely not, but Morgan at this time is our only back up midfielder really. 

    I hope we get another senior player in at CAM if I'm honest 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,275
    Not this bollocks again. 


    He's not good enough, and has proved that over the last 3 seasons now. He hasn't progressed, at all. He doesn't unlock opponents with passing, he doesn't score goals, he's not pacy, he's not tenacious, and he's not a kid anymore either
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Does Morgan regularly play for the u23s, I don't think he does.  Why? 
    Because Jackson has him training with the first team. Burstow & Davison no longer train/ play with the u23's either. 
    Training with I fully understand but surely it makes sense for Davison to play for the u23s midweek this week.  That means Morgan, at 21, has had 1 game and change in 3 months, that can't be right for his development. 
    I suppose the question there is whether more development will occur in playing youth football or in training with pros.

    I'm going to guess it'd be in the 'development' side.
    Take it to the extreme is it any good Burstow, or Davison, playing 10 minutes here and there and NOT playing for the u23s for the rest of the season if the senior strikers are all fit? 
    Oh absolutely not, but Morgan at this time is our only back up midfielder really. 

    I hope we get another senior player in at CAM if I'm honest 
    This is Morgan's record in the league since Jackson got the job.  People say he needs a loan, he needs to play some sort of football doesn't he....


  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,909
    He was one of our better players yesterday which basically says everything you need to know about the teams performance overall. 
    Never going to make it at this level, he has played over 90 1st team games and according to Bowyer we couldn't even get him a loan deal last year.
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  • Vincenzo
    Vincenzo Posts: 2,911
    Cannot get my head around the negativity towards him on here. Yes, he's inconsistent but he is also one of the few creative players we have. Has good vision, can pass, can cross and he's one of our own. I honestly don't get it.

    He was playing the Championship at 19 and now some say he's a League 2 player??? How? He was one of our better players yesterday, but we should get rid..? Mystified.


  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,320
    Gotten countless chances. Look at his goals and assists. Dobson can do everything he does, and also tackle
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Dobson can't do everything Morgan can whilst also playing his own role.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,320
    I cannot believe how much rope our fans are willing to give Morgan, when they're also picking on the single best player of the past 2 months (Clare), saying he's not good enough for having one iffy game.

    Who put in the cross we actually scored from btw? Was it Morgan? I forget
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,345
    Wait who has said Clare's not good enough?

    Has Clare been our single best player the last 2 months? He's done well as an out of position player filling in at RCB. 

    The proper comparison should be between Morgan and Lee or Gilbey. 

    Those two at least have consistency, Morgan needs that to improve, he also needs to read the game better.

    I find it odd that It's not unusual to slag a player off for one bad game, but is unusual to call out when a player has played well.

    It's also apparently not unusual to hark on about a players history when with all players, they're only as good as their last game.
  • Leuth said:
    I cannot believe how much rope our fans are willing to give Morgan, when they're also picking on the single best player of the past 2 months (Clare), saying he's not good enough for having one iffy game.

    Who put in the cross we actually scored from btw? Was it Morgan? I forget
    Morgan had a good game yesterday... Clare did not, havent seen anyone saying that Sean isnt good enough for us based on how he played yesterday. Its a shame that fans cant simply acknowledge when a player has a good or bad game

    Regardless of past performances
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    I can't say I've seen anyone recently saying Clare isn't good enough.
    But most people recognise that he had a poor game on Saturday. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I can't say I've seen anyone recently saying Clare isn't good enough.
    But most people recognise that he had a poor game on Saturday. 
    Clare isn't good enough at the job we signed him for.  The fact he is good enough at something else is a very happy happenstance. 
  • Leuth said:
    Gotten countless chances. Look at his goals and assists. Dobson can do everything he does, and also tackle
    Dobson is a different type of player. Indeed him and Morgan worked together very well yesterday
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    Leuth said:
    Gotten countless chances. Look at his goals and assists. Dobson can do everything he does, and also tackle
    Dobson is a different type of player. Indeed him and Morgan worked together very well yesterday
    Unfortunately the invisible Lee and DJ made their job that much harder.