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Charlton Only - January 2022 Transfer Rumours (Deadline Day p.97)
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golfaddick said:FishCostaFortune said:golfaddick said:ForeverAddickted said:
You snooze you lose.
But we decided on a different strategy which by late August was showed to be pants & we panicked, bringing in players like Arter & Souare.
But them I said all this last summer so no Captain Hindsight here. I was told to be patient, trust the process & it would all be ok in the end.
So don't worry, we can all be patient and wait for Monday evening because of course we haven't had 4 weeks to sign players have we....🙄0 -
Last summers recruitment was a blooming shambles, and we’ve paid the price of being miles off getting out of this poxy division.5
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RonnieMoore said:RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Can't be arsed if Burstow goes. Valley Gold membership each season to buy players that we get to see for a few months if they are half decent and have potential at playing at the higher level and they leave.
If that is our business model now and we are now a Crewe or Peterborough then so be it but I won't be forking out for it each season if players are just going to be sell on commodities. Not even worth having the VG priority tickets when we're not in the same league as millwall or palace as we are shite in the cup in both results and draws.
All our decent prospects end up going to Championship or Premier league clubs to bolster their sides. We don't have the resources and/ or ambition to keep hold of them and perhaps build a team that will progress us up the leagues.
We used to beat Chelsea and Spurs who now use us as loan recipients to develop their abundance of youngsters to be resold at profit or rehab their injured players.
Fed up with it all really. I accept that it's the reality of the modern game but it's shite and makes me wonder what the point of it is as the "one day" optimism and hope that keeps us turning up every week seems even more futile with each passing season.
Seeing the future stars of the premier league for 5 minutes before they're off down the road to villa or whoever doesn't cut it.3 -
golfaddick said:FishCostaFortune said:golfaddick said:ForeverAddickted said:
You snooze you lose.
But we decided on a different strategy which by late August was showed to be pants & we panicked, bringing in players like Arter & Souare.
But them I said all this last summer & was told to be patient, trust the process & it would all be ok in the end.
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RonnieMoore said:golfaddick said:ForeverAddickted said:
You snooze you lose.4 -
This season feels like it could really be one to regret for a good few reasons but the academy feels like a major one.
We have the best crop of youngsters in terms or quality & quantity that I can ever remember and not getting out of this league could see us lose many of them for not a lot of money or appearances.
The difference between being in this crappy league and the Champ is as we know massive in terms of keeping our kids both fiscally and the football.
Just maybe if we’d gone a bit bigger or done our business a earlier or a bit better we’d be in the mix and in a much better place to be able to sign up the likes of Mason, Kanu, Adigun, Beadle and the rest to better contracts and selling on our terms for a change.
It’s always felt like the summer was a massive missed opportunity.1 -
ISawLeaburnScore said:If I have to consider how absolutely ridiculous it was for us not to try to sign Scott Twine last summer again I think I'm going to need a long lie down!
Ticked every box - apart from our black one2 -
Oggy Red said:Gribbo said:addick1956 said:WSS said:addick1956 said:WSS said:killerandflash said:AddicksAddict said:Tunwellsaddick said:"We will not be selling our good young players" or words to that effect. This is a vital test now with Burstow.
I will be absolutely gutted if he goes.
You think he'd have been better off staying at Charlton? 82 appearances in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga by the age of 24?
Paul Went had played 50 for Leyton Orient by the time he was 17 and came to Charlton.
Alan Campbell had played 198 games by the time he was 21 !
Likewise Mike Bailey 151 by the time he was 24, Lennie Glover 177 by the age of 24.
All youth products , mostly ours . They'll had long careers too.
82 by the cage of 24 is part time football really.
And you're not adding things up.
82 in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga and 45 games for us. 150 in total. 25 appearances per season on average since his breakthrough is pretty good.
The hoary old living in the past jibe cuts no ice here. I cannot hardly quote from the bfuture can I ?
The hard work, tactics and team building was done in the pub over a pint and a fag.
A pre match meal was pie and chips, fag at half time and several beers after.
Tactics consistent of, if the oppo are fast kick them and if they’re not kick them twice. 😂4 -
Maccn05 said:This season feels like it could really be one to regret for a good few reasons but the academy feels like a major one.
We have the best crop of youngsters in terms or quality & quantity that I can ever remember and not getting out of this league could see us lose many of them for not a lot of money or appearances.
The difference between being in this crappy league and the Champ is as we know massive in terms of keeping our kids both fiscally and the football.
Just maybe if we’d gone a bit bigger or done our business a earlier or a bit better we’d be in the mix and in a much better place to be able to sign up the likes of Mason, Kanu, Adigun, Beadle and the rest to better contracts and selling on our terms for a change.
It’s always felt like the summer was a massive missed opportunity.
Now he is paying the price of not doing so.
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RonnieMoore said:golfaddick said:ForeverAddickted said:
You snooze you lose.5 - Sponsored links:
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addick1956 said:Gribbo said:addick1956 said:WSS said:addick1956 said:WSS said:killerandflash said:AddicksAddict said:Tunwellsaddick said:"We will not be selling our good young players" or words to that effect. This is a vital test now with Burstow.
I will be absolutely gutted if he goes.
You think he'd have been better off staying at Charlton? 82 appearances in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga by the age of 24?
Paul Went had played 50 for Leyton Orient by the time he was 17 and came to Charlton.
Alan Campbell had played 198 games by the time he was 21 !
Likewise Mike Bailey 151 by the time he was 24, Lennie Glover 177 by the age of 24.
All youth products , mostly ours . They'll had long careers too.
82 by the cage of 24 is part time football really.
And you're not adding things up.
82 in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga and 45 games for us. 150 in total. 25 appearances per season on average since his breakthrough is pretty good.
The hoary old living in the past jibe cuts no ice here. I cannot hardly quote from the bfuture can I ?6 -
addick1956 said:T_C_E said:Oggy Red said:Gribbo said:addick1956 said:WSS said:addick1956 said:WSS said:killerandflash said:AddicksAddict said:Tunwellsaddick said:"We will not be selling our good young players" or words to that effect. This is a vital test now with Burstow.
I will be absolutely gutted if he goes.
You think he'd have been better off staying at Charlton? 82 appearances in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga by the age of 24?
Paul Went had played 50 for Leyton Orient by the time he was 17 and came to Charlton.
Alan Campbell had played 198 games by the time he was 21 !
Likewise Mike Bailey 151 by the time he was 24, Lennie Glover 177 by the age of 24.
All youth products , mostly ours . They'll had long careers too.
82 by the cage of 24 is part time football really.
And you're not adding things up.
82 in the PL, 22 in the Bundesliga and 45 games for us. 150 in total. 25 appearances per season on average since his breakthrough is pretty good.
The hoary old living in the past jibe cuts no ice here. I cannot hardly quote from the bfuture can I ?
The hard work, tactics and team building was done in the pub over a pint and a fag.
A pre match meal was pie and chips, fag at half time and several beers after.
Tactics consistent of, if the oppo are fast kick them and if they’re not kick them twice. 😂
Especially chips as potatoes were not on the ration. Hence chips a lot.
The only problem with your nonsense moment is that people of that era did more work of a physical nature, ate less compared with the ideal for the effort and at the end of the war were fitter and eager that the Fat chumps of the modern times.
It follows that the footballers were as well. So as my dear old mum would say, "Put that in your pipe and smoke it". In other words belt up.6 -
Fuck me it's like feeding time at the troll farm tonight.
I know one of you is on a wind up, but I am genuinely concerned that the other one isn't!3 -
Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?
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msomerton said:Maccn05 said:This season feels like it could really be one to regret for a good few reasons but the academy feels like a major one.
We have the best crop of youngsters in terms or quality & quantity that I can ever remember and not getting out of this league could see us lose many of them for not a lot of money or appearances.
The difference between being in this crappy league and the Champ is as we know massive in terms of keeping our kids both fiscally and the football.
Just maybe if we’d gone a bit bigger or done our business a earlier or a bit better we’d be in the mix and in a much better place to be able to sign up the likes of Mason, Kanu, Adigun, Beadle and the rest to better contracts and selling on our terms for a change.
It’s always felt like the summer was a massive missed opportunity.
Now he is paying the price of not doing so.
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To be fair, you don't see people moan at signings that often. They are either excited or open minded.1
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RonnieMoore said:RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Can't be arsed if Burstow goes. Valley Gold membership each season to buy players that we get to see for a few months if they are half decent and have potential at playing at the higher level and they leave.
If that is our business model now and we are now a Crewe or Peterborough then so be it but I won't be forking out for it each season if players are just going to be sell on commodities. Not even worth having the VG priority tickets when we're not in the same league as millwall or palace as we are shite in the cup in both results and draws.
All our decent prospects end up going to Championship or Premier league clubs to bolster their sides. We don't have the resources and/ or ambition to keep hold of them and perhaps build a team that will progress us up the leagues.
We used to beat Chelsea and Spurs who now use us as loan recipients to develop their abundance of youngsters to be resold at profit or rehab their injured players.
Fed up with it all really. I accept that it's the reality of the modern game but it's shite and makes me wonder what the point of it is as the "one day" optimism and hope that keeps us turning up every week seems even more futile with each passing season.
Seeing the future stars of the premier league for 5 minutes before they're off down the road to villa or whoever doesn't cut it.
Thanks. I feel much happier now.5 -
RodneyCharltonTrotta said:RonnieMoore said:RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Can't be arsed if Burstow goes. Valley Gold membership each season to buy players that we get to see for a few months if they are half decent and have potential at playing at the higher level and they leave.
If that is our business model now and we are now a Crewe or Peterborough then so be it but I won't be forking out for it each season if players are just going to be sell on commodities. Not even worth having the VG priority tickets when we're not in the same league as millwall or palace as we are shite in the cup in both results and draws.
All our decent prospects end up going to Championship or Premier league clubs to bolster their sides. We don't have the resources and/ or ambition to keep hold of them and perhaps build a team that will progress us up the leagues.
We used to beat Chelsea and Spurs who now use us as loan recipients to develop their abundance of youngsters to be resold at profit or rehab their injured players.
Fed up with it all really. I accept that it's the reality of the modern game but it's shite and makes me wonder what the point of it is as the "one day" optimism and hope that keeps us turning up every week seems even more futile with each passing season.
Seeing the future stars of the premier league for 5 minutes before they're off down the road to villa or whoever doesn't cut it.
Thanks. I feel much happier now.
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CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.2 -
CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?1
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addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
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addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
I can be negative and moany but man you really do take some beating.
Also totally agree that any fan of EFL football would have been very aware of Twine and that only grown this season. Probably the finest talent in the bottom two leagues right now.0 -
RonnieMoore said:RodneyCharltonTrotta said:Can't be arsed if Burstow goes. Valley Gold membership each season to buy players that we get to see for a few months if they are half decent and have potential at playing at the higher level and they leave.
If that is our business model now and we are now a Crewe or Peterborough then so be it but I won't be forking out for it each season if players are just going to be sell on commodities. Not even worth having the VG priority tickets when we're not in the same league as millwall or palace as we are shite in the cup in both results and draws.
All our decent prospects end up going to Championship or Premier league clubs to bolster their sides. We don't have the resources and/ or ambition to keep hold of them and perhaps build a team that will progress us up the leagues.
We used to beat Chelsea and Spurs who now use us as loan recipients to develop their abundance of youngsters to be resold at profit or rehab their injured players.
Fed up with it all really. I accept that it's the reality of the modern game but it's shite and makes me wonder what the point of it is as the "one day" optimism and hope that keeps us turning up every week seems even more futile with each passing season.
Seeing the future stars of the premier league for 5 minutes before they're off down the road to villa or whoever doesn't cut it.3 -
Maccn05 said:addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
I can be negative and moany but man you really do take some beating.
Also totally agree that any fan of EFL football would have been very aware of Twine and that only grown this season. Probably the finest talent in the bottom two leagues right now.
It's quite easy to say we should or should have signed Twine either now or in the summer. But equally people were raving about Dale, the two Randalls, Dempsey, Kirk, Lowery, Jephcott and God knows who else.
Rember the tutting when we didn't sign Graham and Edwards?
Most of them have done sod all.
It would have been great to get Twine, on hindsight but it wasn't a "no brainer".7 -
Cafc43v3r said:Maccn05 said:addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
I can be negative and moany but man you really do take some beating.
Also totally agree that any fan of EFL football would have been very aware of Twine and that only grown this season. Probably the finest talent in the bottom two leagues right now.
It's quite easy to say we should or should have signed Twine either now or in the summer. But equally people were raving about Dale, the two Randalls, Dempsey, Kirk, Lowery, Jephcott and God knows who else.
Rember the tutting when we didn't sign Graham and Edwards?
Most of them have done sod all.
It would have been great to get Twine, on hindsight but it wasn't a "no brainer".
Of your list Lowery was the other one to really impress me and did again the other week.0 -
addick1956 said:cafcfan1990 said:addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
Anyway it isn't hard to believe we couldn't compete because Twine and Eisa went to MK Dons and they paid a biggish fee for Eisa to Peterborough , which, I believe, we wouldn't meet.0 -
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Maccn05 said:Cafc43v3r said:Maccn05 said:addick1956 said:ElliotCAFC said:CafcSCP said:Wonder how many of those calling for Twine, 1 knew of him before this summer or would have moaned if we had signed him?Scott Twine was universally raved about last season, 10+ goals and assists for two rubbish teams. If you have any sort of digital presence then you’ve probably seen some of his wonder goals.
The fact MK Dons got him means we had every chance if we had tried, which is a shame. Hopefully we can pick up the next one.
I can be negative and moany but man you really do take some beating.
Also totally agree that any fan of EFL football would have been very aware of Twine and that only grown this season. Probably the finest talent in the bottom two leagues right now.
It's quite easy to say we should or should have signed Twine either now or in the summer. But equally people were raving about Dale, the two Randalls, Dempsey, Kirk, Lowery, Jephcott and God knows who else.
Rember the tutting when we didn't sign Graham and Edwards?
Most of them have done sod all.
It would have been great to get Twine, on hindsight but it wasn't a "no brainer".
Of your list Lowery was the other one to really impress me and did again the other week.
Everyone would now be saying we should have signed Twine, Kirk (still at Crewe) and someone else instead.
Twine is about the only one on that list that both moved and has been a 100% success.
Our recruitment was confused, slow and ultimately not good enough. But not signing Twine wasn't the ultimate issue.8 -
SLP said we pulled out of the Browne deal, Pete O’Rourke is claiming we were beaten by Oxford. Great to have stories for both the optimists and pessimists14
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I’m hoping we pulled out of the Browne deal as a result of being made aware that Ipswich will let Fraser move (& is a lower risk from an injury point of view).
Time will tell.1