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Post-match Thread: Bolton Wanderers v Charlton Athletic | Tuesday 8 February 2022 : 8pm KO
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We travelled up to Bolton this evening to battle the team top of the form league, but level on points with us and sharing a WLD record. Aneke not in the starting line up and Innis not to play, brought Burstow into attack and Pearce into the back line.
Football purists will not have found much of anything at all in performances from both sides. But Bolton were marginally more organised than us and ultimately came away with all three points.
We conceded in the first ten or so minutes from a calamitous episode that began when the referee blew the whistle for Sean Clare after he fell to the ground from an innocuous clash. When play resume, we went from attacking down the right flank to being boxed into the corner, with Bolton organised around us. The took possession and booted the ball down the line for their striker to run on to. Famewo failed to deal with the ball properly, as it came off his head and into the strikers path. The striker rounded MacGilveray and slotted the ball home. We’ve gifted too many opportunities through poor decisions and awkward lapses in concentration. We now how a hole to dig ourselves out of.
Poor play on both sides resulted in lots of frustrations. This culminated in a very bad, late tackle on Dobbo that could have been a straight red and could have broke Dobbo’s leg. The referee was miles away and only gave a yellow. Fortunately, Dobbo returned to the action without any lingering effects.
Aneke and Lavelle came on at about seventy minutes. We changed shape, moving to a diamond and began to apply some pressure. Fraser then came on. Soon after the changes, Aneke got his head on the end of a Fraser cross and brought us level.
An equal share of the points wasn’t to be however. Clare made a needless tackle that gifted Bolton a free kick down our left that resulted in a goal. We had a chance or two after, but another equaliser was not on the cards.
Poor, disappointing, and frustrating all evening. I have a headache.
Bolton 2 Charlton 1
Over to you.
Football purists will not have found much of anything at all in performances from both sides. But Bolton were marginally more organised than us and ultimately came away with all three points.
We conceded in the first ten or so minutes from a calamitous episode that began when the referee blew the whistle for Sean Clare after he fell to the ground from an innocuous clash. When play resume, we went from attacking down the right flank to being boxed into the corner, with Bolton organised around us. The took possession and booted the ball down the line for their striker to run on to. Famewo failed to deal with the ball properly, as it came off his head and into the strikers path. The striker rounded MacGilveray and slotted the ball home. We’ve gifted too many opportunities through poor decisions and awkward lapses in concentration. We now how a hole to dig ourselves out of.
Poor play on both sides resulted in lots of frustrations. This culminated in a very bad, late tackle on Dobbo that could have been a straight red and could have broke Dobbo’s leg. The referee was miles away and only gave a yellow. Fortunately, Dobbo returned to the action without any lingering effects.
Aneke and Lavelle came on at about seventy minutes. We changed shape, moving to a diamond and began to apply some pressure. Fraser then came on. Soon after the changes, Aneke got his head on the end of a Fraser cross and brought us level.
An equal share of the points wasn’t to be however. Clare made a needless tackle that gifted Bolton a free kick down our left that resulted in a goal. We had a chance or two after, but another equaliser was not on the cards.
Poor, disappointing, and frustrating all evening. I have a headache.
Bolton 2 Charlton 1
Over to you.
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Terrifying that Sandgaard thinks this squad only needs a couple more players to be competitive.11
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Very harsh don’t think we deserved to lose that .. but again lot of key moments went against us .. sending off , weak free kick it went against us tonight
Plus points Laville and Fraser both looked pretty good ..but again McG had one save to make in 96 mins … but you can’t give teams a head start like we did tonight .
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Such a disappointing performance, so many of them below par. Defensively we were all over the shop
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Grim.
Need a reaction.0 -
So bored of the same basic shit from this team.
Can't Pass
Can't mark their man
Can't defend
Stupid fouls given away every 2 minutes.
From Jacksons point of view. Please change the formation!!1 -
Shit game all round... Draw would have been a fair result, but the sole object of the game is to put the ball in the back of the net - Bolton did that more times than us, so cant argue with that simple logic really.
Too many individual mistakes at the wrong times - Portsmouth result (we always do well at Fratton Park) glossed over our away form this season, we're 20th in that table - So felt very much business as usual once again tonight
Of course the whole complexity of the game could have changed, as Bolton deserved to be down to ten men, but they were already 1-0 up... Getting a man sent off doesn't impact games like it used to anymore, players probably practice the scenarios all the time in training.
Positives
- Scott Fraser is off the mark in the assists table.
- Jackson tried something other than 3-5-2 for once.6 -
Shite performance shite formation shite players.3
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Every fucking time we get a manager that supposedly wants to play good attacking football, it's always the same old garbage, every time. Somehow an even worse team than the 2010/11 squad. Depressing.0
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Just too many cheap, silly free kicks both by our strikers easing pressure on opposition defenders and by our defenders/midfielders giving simple crossing opportunities. We have done it for 2-3 years and it needs to stop.
Equally, we need to defend better, opposition teams are given way too much space and time in and around our box time again which is never afforded to us.
Crap individual errors also a feature, Famewo’s for the goal and other times; Pearce more than once and Lavelle when he came on did some weird header thing back too.
Charles is a great player at this level, I feel sorry for Accrington who were mugged at £300K. To think loads on here wanted us to get a big PL team in the FA Cup, our defence was ragged by Charles.Disappointing but our season was done already.
Need good recruitment this summer, a January window where we bought in two loanees who cannot even get in the squad is not hugely promising!
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A bit shit.0
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That was right up there with our worst defensive displays this season. It’s basic stuff, but we can’t deal with it.6
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He did 2nd half and we looked better up until the goalcharltonman2016 said:So bored of the same basic shit from this team.
Can't Pass
Can't mark their man
Can't defend
Stupid fouls given away every 2 minutes.
From Jacksons point of view. Please change the formation!!2 -
Famewo, Pearce, Burstow... shocking.
Clare (idiot fk), Gilbey, Matthews, DJ meh
Morgan mixed
Washington, Dobson tried
Mac couldn't do a lot.
Fraser and Chuks brighter
Lavelle... err... Good to see him back.
Jacko... left the changes way too late.4 -
Fraser showed what we are missing when he came on – quality. Just any quality, at all. The difference he made was palpable. He highlights the key fact, we are not that good. Mainstay players like Gilbey are not that good.
People on the match thread saying Bolton are average, two bob, etc. They've got Santos at CB, Dempsey at CM, Charles at ST. That is a spine I'd swap for ours in a heartbeat. Better than anything we've got.
Game after game, our players can't control the ball, can't weight a pass, run into blind alleys, show no concept of game management... The only logical answer is that they are just not good because it's constant.
I don't know how we can expect to beat a team like that on their own turf when players like Famewo are having one of the worst performances of recent years. Our defence in general is scary, as is most of the team. What's more scary is that we will be keeping most of these players for next year.
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Jacko looks pissed off.
And sounds worse.
He's struggling to find the right words to answer Scotty's questions without launching a series of F bombs.1 -
Akin Famewo going over to the traveling support and putting his hand up and pointing to his chest after the game. Feel for him, he's still young and footballers are human. Was riding high after Saturday, and then a poor game tonight.
Bolton sort of did to us what we did to Wimbledon on Saturday. They weren't good, but they just had that little bit of quality, particularly from a set piece, and work rate to get themselves over the line.
Just seeing Chuks' header again, and what a header it is. He leaps high and the ball is a bit behind him and he not only makes good contact but gets power on the header.
And watching back that Clare foul before the equalizer, and it's a very silly one to give away.
I felt the playoffs were beyond us before this game, and still feel that way. There's no shame in losing to the form team in the division away from home, but we didn't really deserve anything tonight. I view the rest of this season as an audition for next season. There are the makings of a good squad here, but there are some players who will have to have a strong run in if they want a contract.9 -
Famewo not good enough. Poor decision making by a number of the players. As Brownie said of Clare, no need to foul their guy over on the left. Managed to gift them both goals. And really other than that Bolton offered fuck all. Gilbey not good enough. Burstow (I don’t think he can possibly worth £1.6m) wouldn’t even be playing if Stockley was fit. He showed how young and raw he is tonight. A draw would have been fair but we managed to shoot ourselves in the head once again. Can’t afford to leave out Innis and Chuks when Stockley is also missing.3
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We gift too many goals; it’s that simple.18
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Negatives: Another crap performance in the third division. Season over.
Positives: Fraser and Lavelle will be good next season.Goodnight5 -
A rubbish game. 70 minutes of unadulterated crap from Charlton then three positive substitutions and an astute (albeit overdue) tactical change by Jacko brought us right back in it, only to concede again quickly to leave us chasing the game again.
I’m particularly disappointed with our discipline. We gave away so many stupid and pointless free kicks and predictably paid the price in conceding from a resultant free kick yet again. I lost count of how many yellow cards we racked up but most of them were totally avoidable.
Defensively, we were all over the place. Famewo was badly at fault for their opener and looked uncertain throughout. Pearcey was given the run around by Dion Charles. We very badly missed Ryan Inniss but it was good to see Sam Lavelle come in and do well.
Scott Fraser did well, with a great cross for our goal and he was a tad unlucky not to grab a late equaliser. He’ll be a very good player for us and I’d love to see him start next match.
Really frustrating night that must surely, finally, put paid to any lingering hopes of a late run to the play offs.
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Will we, though? The worst culprits tonight I don't expect to be with us next year.Chunes said:Fraser showed what we are missing when he came on – quality. Just any quality, at all. The difference he made was palpable. He highlights the key fact, we are not that good. Mainstay players like Gilbey are not that good.
Game after game, our players can't control the ball, can't weight a pass, run into blind alleys, show no concept of game management... The only logical answer is that they are just not very good.
People on the match thread saying Bolton are average, two bob, etc. They've got Santos at CB, Dempsey at CM, Charles at ST. That is a spine I'd swap for ours in a heartbeat. Better than anything we've got.
I don't know how we can expect to beat a team like that on their own turf when players like Famewo are having one of the worst performances of recent years. Our defence in general is scary, as is most of the team. What's more scary is that we will be keeping most of these players for next year.0 -
Sick of this shit league. Bolton were just as shit as we were other than not making defensive howlers.Sick of this fancy 352 wingback overlapping centrehalves bullshit where the only one that gets forward is Clare.Sick of the shit officiating.Am I over reacting?4
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Jackson is not a happy bunny in his post match interview. Understandably7
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On my way back now.
There are no words that can describe my frustration at this team. From back to front we were beyond shocking.
I can’t remember seeing a worse defensive performance from Famewo Pearce and Clare.What Clare was doing to give the foul away for their winner is beyond me. It would be an insult to school boy defending. Famewo and Pearce were comical, neither should be at this club next season.
We have ZERO creativity in midfield, Morgan tried and he was our best player (which isn’t saying much) but no one turns and plays a positive pass.
DJ does not want the ball, he never shows and goes out of his way to make a stupid run so the player in possession doesn’t find him.
Tactically, big big questions have to be asked. What were the tactics today? How many times have we dropped a performance like we have today? Too many times, it was so so bad.
There is no passion and no fight from the majority of this team. We need a total and ruthless clear out if we want to compete next season.Abysmal.12 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:Jackson is not a happy bunny in his post match interview. Understandably
His boring tactics and strange lineups...3 -
Brain dead foul to give away from Clare, happens every game from everyone.0
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Shit team
Shit League
Shit Season
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Scrappy battle. We made it hard by giving them a goal. Change of formation rattled them, we had a good 10 mins and scored. Looked set to go on, then Clare gives away a totally needless free kick and you could almost predict what was going to happen. Don't think they were that much better than us, but you can't gift opponents goals in tight games. First half with Wash and Burstow up top was dire
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Big long ball over the top and every time we just can’t deal with it, pathetic.
I would leave Famewo out next match he makes so many mistakes and can’t pass.
Shit ref again all major decisions went Boltons way. Bolton didn’t really need second gear to beat us in the end.
Turned sound off again Brown over analysis the game to death.5 -
Pro... We had a plan B and damn it, it nearly worked.14
