Post-match Thread: Bolton Wanderers v Charlton Athletic | Tuesday 8 February 2022 : 8pm KO

Rubbish. Hate this team, no passion. Try harder at home then away. Spineless. We robbed Chelsea with Burstow. Defence, minus Inniss is so poor. Hate this division. Feel sorry for those going Saturday. Can't see a win until late March. Very unhappy with it all and that includes JJ.

vff said:

I don't think Pearce or Faemwo look comfortable in a 352 - they are too slow. Hoping that Johnnie Jackson can adjusts formation to the players he has got. The switch to a 442 Charlton looked much better.

I just don't think they're good together.

One or the other, never both.

robinofottershaw said:

I think Innis and Lavelle should get the nod on Saturday ahead of Pearce and Famewo after their performances this evening.

How would you line them up?

Leuth said:

We were a pretty good side after our much-needed changes of Burstow and Gilbey off and Aneke and Fraser on. They got one free-kick and scored from it; otherwise we looked very much on top. In Aneke's case, it shows what a bit of presence can do. In Fraser's case, it shows what a bit of footballing quality can. I hope more people are starting to see what I mean about Gilbey. Oh he's lovely on Twitter, sure. He runs around a lot! *Great Escape theme starts playing*

I think Gilbey can be very good. But I agree lately like many of the team, he's seriously underperforming.

Nicholas said:

Fortune 82nd Minute said:

Jackson is not a happy bunny in his post match interview. Understandably 

He can moan as much as he likes, but his shit formation doesn't work, signing 4 players in January and none of them starting and 2 not in the squad his decision. Makes changes too late. Plays too many players out of position, DJ at left wing back is just a pathetic choice. Clare however well he has done at center half he is not a center half, its not like we have been good defensively this season, play him as a midfielder. However we managed to mug Chelsea off for nearly £2m for Burstow is ridiculous, he never gets involved I'm not sure I can ever remember him actually dribbling with the ball or trying to take someone on. Play Aneke not Burstow and if Aneke is not fit enough to play each game then more fool them for signing him back on a long contract.

...we'd won three on the spin before tonight with that formation. It didn't work tonight, and it was good to see Jacko finally be willing to change things. Ideally it would have been a little earlier, but the substitutions changed the flow of the game (and before that there was a big risk of Pearce being sent off).

Clare has been a lot of peoples' POTY at RCB. 

This is only our second game after the close of the January window. There is still a lot of time for the players we signed. Fraser came into a team that was winning with his most comparable midfielder, Albie Morgan, playing well. I think Nile John was always going to struggle to get into the 18, let alone the 11, when a lot of players are fit. I have to think we're doing with him what we did with Jay Dasilva a few years ago, signing him on his first loan with the hope that if he shows something, we bring him back next season. Purrington being on the bench ahead of Castillo is interesting, but Castillo is also coming off of Covid from right before he joined us, so we don't know what his fitness is like at the moment. And Castillo is another one, 22 at Chelsea and nowhere near the first team, who could be an audition for next year (either on another loan or a permanent) if he shows something. 

Chuks can't start two games in four days. That's why he's playing in League One. He scored a quality goal tonight and has what, two goals in five games since rejoining us? He has his limitations, but he also has tremendous quality on his day. 

We nearly got a smash and grab draw.

That says it all really.

Jacko really needs to focus on set piece defending aswell as our performances/formation away asap.

Nice goal from Aneke after some quality play from Fraser. Getting fed up of seeing little end product from Gilbey as he's playing in his ideal position, unlike some others. Pearce was woeful now he is out his purple patch. Akin put in a 2/10 which I have not ever seen. This is also L1.

Leuth said:

Dazzler21 said:

Leuth said:

We were a pretty good side after our much-needed changes of Burstow and Gilbey off and Aneke and Fraser on. They got one free-kick and scored from it; otherwise we looked very much on top. In Aneke's case, it shows what a bit of presence can do. In Fraser's case, it shows what a bit of footballing quality can. I hope more people are starting to see what I mean about Gilbey. Oh he's lovely on Twitter, sure. He runs around a lot! *Great Escape theme starts playing*

I think Gilbey can be very good. But I agree lately like many of the team, he's seriously underperforming.

Lately? We won 3 in a row before this! We actually looked like a good side for 15 minutes after he went off! It isn't many, it's basically him. Sorry to scapegoat. It's Burstow too as he doesn't do anything other than finishing. And Famewo will never be able to pass a ball. But Gilbey has stuck out as being of a clearly lower footballing level than the rest of our midfield, imo.

I’ve always felt that as a centre midfielder the worst thing you can be is anonymous.  It’s the one position where you cannot and should not hide at all costs.  Gilbey does have games where he offers absolutely nothing, this is why I like Elliott Lee, you can guarantee he will have X amount of touches before anyone else.

I saw the team and thought the worse. No Stockley of course, but our two physical threats not starting in Innis and Aneke and I knew we wouldn't create anything. The game was very bitty and of a poor quality. They should have had a red but ref missed it, but he saw a yellow! So did he miss it? Very poor from Famewo for the goal. Defensively he can get his positioning wrong a bit too often.

I thought we shaded it but nobody deserved to win as both teams were poor. When we equalised we might of gone for it but the yellow streak in the side has to be culled. The panic has to be sorted out too. That needless foul for the free kick from which they scored the winner would piss you off if a Sunday League team mate committed it. There is a Kamicase element to our defending. That pass to Morgan who was central and had he lost the ball which he did, put them in. That is what you call brainless and I think JJ and his team need to have some video sessions with the defence.

I don't think you can blame the midfield. Burstow and Washington is too powderpuff and the defence make too many stupid mistakes.

Some match stats.  Only they are from the game at the Valley that everyone, including me, said should have been the end of Adkins. 

3 wins against not very good Fleetwood and Wimbledon and at fortress Fratton stopped this being a relegation fight.  There are things wrong much deeper than the manger. 

Sacking Adkins 3, 5 or even 7 games earlier would have only moved the problem forward a few games. 

We signed about 10 players in the summer most all of them have been a complete failer.

Clare has managed a unique double, his worst 2 games in a Charlton shirt have been against the same team in different positions. 

In the last 2 months we have reverted to the mean.  Now we go into the reverse of the first 4 fixtures.  Compare the players we now have available to the ones we had then.  If we get the same results the "has Jackson lost it" thread will be up and running by Easter.

Anyone that is still banging the if we had sacked Adkins earlier drum is in lala land.  If we had given the manager, who ever he/she was the tools to do the job we wouldn't be where we are.

There have been some efforts to correct the summer this winter.  Too little, too late. 

In April Jackson and Thomas, just them, need to sit down and agree what they need to do to get us promoted next season.  If Thomas doesn't agree Jackson should shake his hand and walk away. 

Of course we want to win on Saturday, but I imagine Jacko would be delighted with a 0-0 draw, as defensively we're just not good enough at the moment. We're not a side who can play badly, but nick a 1-0 win, which is how you get promoted, as you won't play well every game.

And it's not just because Inniss didn't play tonight, as we let in 2 sloppy goals on Saturday against a weak Wimbledon side, it's seems to be a collective issue at the moment, with everyone making individual mistakes.

Tonight Akin had an awful first half, while it was Pearce's turn to have a terrible second half - I can only assume the ref was lenient because he's seen a replay of the Jones incident.

Leuth said:

We were a pretty good side after our much-needed changes of Burstow and Gilbey off and Aneke and Fraser on. They got one free-kick and scored from it; otherwise we looked very much on top. In Aneke's case, it shows what a bit of presence can do. In Fraser's case, it shows what a bit of footballing quality can. I hope more people are starting to see what I mean about Gilbey. Oh he's lovely on Twitter, sure. He runs around a lot! *Great Escape theme starts playing*

Your recent rants about Gilbey have made me laugh, but to be honest I would have subbed him at half time tonight. He wasn't being very effective, was looking a reasonable risk of a sending off, and we needed Fraser's creativity.

Cafc43v3r said:

Some match stats.  Only they are from the game at the Valley that everyone, including me, said should have been the end of Adkins. 

3 wins against not very good Fleetwood and Wimbledon and at fortress Fratton stopped this being a relegation fight.  There are things wrong much deeper than the manger. 

Sacking Adkins 3, 5 or even 7 games earlier would have only moved the problem forward a few games. 

We signed about 10 players in the summer most all of them have been a complete failer.

Clare has managed a unique double, his worst 2 games in a Charlton shirt have been against the same team in different positions. 

In the last 2 months we have reverted to the mean.  Now we go into the reverse of the first 4 fixtures.  Compare the players we now have available to the ones we had then.  If we get the same results the "has Jackson lost it" thread will be up and running by Easter.

Anyone that is still banging the if we had sacked Adkins earlier drum is in lala land.  If we had given the manager, who ever he/she was the tools to do the job we wouldn't be where we are.

There have been some efforts to correct the summer this winter.  Too little, too late. 

In April Jackson and Thomas, just them, need to sit down and agree what they need to do to get us promoted next season.  If Thomas doesn't agree Jackson should shake his hand and walk away. 

Our best players this season were players we signed in the summer.  Dobson, Clare, Stockley, MacGillivray, Lavelle before injury, Lee in spells.

And whilst I agree this team in no way deserves promotion our record since Adkins speaks for itself (W9 D3 L5), we’d of definitely been better off sacking him earlier.  

Agree with Defence / Inniss point. We should be tinkering with forwards to change a game, not defenders. That department should be solid and settled. The fact that it isn't will be this teams downfall. 2 clean sheets from 11 tells the story of our midtable position. Whilst a GD of 3+ isn't awful it is balanced  by our strikers going through lean periods and injuries. As a result our defence has dictated our season ending position already. Roll on August.