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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    cafc999 said:
    cafctom said:
    Anyone else got a sneaky feeling the government will absolutely “vary” the conditions as soon as they can, on the quiet? 

    There’s no way they’ll keep these conditions in place long term.
    I wonder if they will 'vary' it if someone agrees to buy the club?
    They may well allow a sale, but the government will pocket the funds 

  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    KBslittlesis said:
    sm said:
    cafc999 said:
    Wonder if they will still sing his name this weekend?
    Probably, they were never smart enough to ask where the money came from.
    In the main, fans don’t care, they just want success 😞
    I don't think any fans do tbh. Charlton fans would be singing Abramovich's name if he bought Charlton instead of Chelsea back in 2005 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,954
    edited March 2022
    cafctom said:
    Anyone else got a sneaky feeling the government will absolutely “vary” the conditions as soon as they can, on the quiet? 

    There’s no way they’ll keep these conditions in place long term.
    I've got more of a sneaky suspicion that Abramovich will either "sell" Chelsea to a front man, or he'll sell it, have the assets seized then sue for them back.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    sm said:
    Swindon_Addick said:


    Good to see our loan payments will be frozen - would be even better if they could be donated straightaway to Ukraine.
    They are, in a way, in the form of various ordnance
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Not entirely clear what is happening to TV revenues - if they are frozen Chelsea will have problems paying their primadonnas, so they may have to rely on cheaper options like Mason and Juan.  Of course, insolvency and a points deduction may be the way to go - but rules only allow registering of a new entity in the same league where all football creditors are honoured.  This may be the most sensible way to go, unless some better deal can be arranged with our Oligarch friendly govt, but it would probably mean no Champions League football next year.


  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    very tough situation to be honest. This isn’t an asset like a mansion or a sports car. It’s a community asset supported by hundreds of thousands of UK citizens and employees hundreds of people. 

    Very hard to determine what is right and fair in this instance 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited March 2022
    PragueAddick said:
    Chizz said:
    Fortune 82nd Minute said:
    Nadine Dorries has said:_

    "To ensure the club can continue to compete and operate we are issuing a special licence that will allow fixtures to be fulfilled, staff to be paid and existing ticket holders to attend matches while, crucially, depriving Abramovich of benefiting from his ownership of the club."

    "I know this brings some uncertainty, but the Government will work with the league & clubs to keep football being played while ensuring sanctions hit those intended. Football clubs are cultural assets and the bedrock of our communities. We're committed to protecting them."

    Shame its taken a bit of time to hit Abromavich but in a way good that they've done it now because it really effs up his attempt to sell the club when he must have thought he was going to get away with doing it.
    This is great news, isn't it @PragueAddick - I am sure we will be able to rely on Ms Dorries' diligent, sane, sober assistance if ever football clubs' futures look in peril.  
    It's great news. Like finally the country woke up to what I've been saying since soon after he pitched up, but sadly it has taken an appalling act of barbarism to make it happen.

    And I'm sorry but questions need to be asked about why this didn't happen at least 10 days ago, re him and the other eight they have named today. For now, doubtless these questions will be submerged in the belated spirit of Western co-operation, but as with our wrong'uns, I will be among the many who will never forgive and never forget.

    Agree with you Prague.
    You must be so proud of the response of the Czech Republic people and that amazing display on the streets of Prague.

    This have been a long time coming and I have made my views clear about my hatred of Chelsea football club and Abramovich since following his career when he was Governor of Chukotka as a young guy after befriending Boris Yeltsin and his family. He knew to survive and carry on printing money he had to jump ship and pay Putin and keep in with the strong men of the Kremlin after getting state power company for a steal.

    The Chelsea players should just be paid a basic 1k a week to the end of the season when anyone out of contract can just be free.
    The rest can go on the transfer list.

    Chelsea are a successful football team because of the money purloined from the Russian people, before it was laundered with the lax rules in the UK.
    Maybe Charlton will one day play Chelsea again in League 1 or the Championship as we pass like ships in the night.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,607
    jacob_CAFC said:
    KBslittlesis said:
    sm said:
    cafc999 said:
    Wonder if they will still sing his name this weekend?
    Probably, they were never smart enough to ask where the money came from.
    In the main, fans don’t care, they just want success 😞
    I don't think any fans do tbh. Charlton fans would be singing Abramovich's name if he bought Charlton instead of Chelsea back in 2005 
    I fear you maybe right.
    But I’d like to think a few of us old timers wouldn’t 🙏🏻😞
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited March 2022
    I would imagine this is easy enough for Chelsea to sidestep. Abramovich already said the proceeds of the sale would go to victims of the war. So something could be done I am sure where this happens and those victims are Ukranian ones. Why? Because the government won't let  Chelsea be a casualty in this.

    What may have an impact is the difference to Chelsea in the long to medium term in terms of the outlook of their new owner.
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  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    Stig said:
    Gribbo said:
    robroy said:

    Just seen this on Facebook.

    Would say it's a bit harsh on the club and their supporters, but the way they've acted and come out the woodwork since the dough come in, a bit like Citeh, has been questionable. Could they appeal and still be allowed to operate, with any proceeds destined for Abro's pockets being seized? Or suppose that's too complicated.....
    Fuck 'em! They've been living on false glories bought with stolen money for years. I didn't hear too much complaining from them about that. Meanwhile smaller clubs are forced into a desperate economic position due to the top heavy nature of football funding that their club supports and their 'grab all the good players' model which has been employed by Chelsea more than any other of the big boys. It'll do them good to be taken down a peg or two.
    To say nothing on their impact on players wages, which has trickled down to the lower leagues so that football is hardly viable unless you have a sugar daddy to cover the losses.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,503
    edited March 2022
    AFKABartram said:
    very tough situation to be honest. This isn’t an asset like a mansion or a sports car. It’s a community asset supported by hundreds of thousands of UK citizens and employees hundreds of people. 

    Very hard to determine what is right and fair in this instance 
    Agreed. I think you've probably just got to boil it down to a "for the the greater good" view of things. War has many far-reaching & catastrophic consequences. This is but just one, pretty small "in the scheme of things" consequence....but huge within the world of football.
  • sm
    sm Posts: 2,958
    AFKABartram said:
    very tough situation to be honest. This isn’t an asset like a mansion or a sports car. It’s a community asset supported by hundreds of thousands of UK citizens and employees hundreds of people. 

    Very hard to determine what is right and fair in this instance 
    A community asset supported by wealth from Russia arrived at by means most of their fans have ignored for years.  E.g Abramovitch moved his oil co to a province of which he was made Governor by Putin - and then cut the tax rate on the company.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    KBslittlesis said:
    So Karma actually works? 😳
    When we're above them in the league and we can steal their best player, that's when karma has occurred. 
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    It's good to see the government doing the right thing.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    I still remember abramovich' ugly sad angry face when we beat Chelsea at Stamford bridge on penalties in the Carling cup 

    C*nt 

    Thanks for taking Parker off us. Was probably spouting russian bollocks to Putin and having a giggle.

    (He obviously probably wasn't and I'm half joking....it's best he should fly home after the police hopefully track and trace him. Maybe search his private property if possible)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    cafctom said:
    Anyone else got a sneaky feeling the government will absolutely “vary” the conditions as soon as they can, on the quiet? 

    There’s no way they’ll keep these conditions in place long term.
    Exactly this. There's no way this will carry into next season.

    Government have done it to be seen to be doing the right thing, but they'll let a sale go through in the summer i'm sure, as obviously the situation can't continue.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    cabbles said:
    Tuchel wondering how to fit Gunter and Watson into Chelsea’s system next season 

    And Charlton wondering where to fit Mount and Lukaku into our system next season.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    This is brilliant. Like waking up and finding out it's Christmas Day. 

    I don't really believe it'll stick. My gut feeling is the club will be allowed to weasel out of most of this stuff. And maybe their future will only be as bad as hitting mid-table of the PL. But it's a start. Sportswashing has taken a blow today, and while it's too late for me to start caring about the PL again, I hope it's a step that leads to major change. 
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  • WRICURKINCAM
    WRICURKINCAM Posts: 327

  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    No away fans i assume means at Stamford bridge, but can Chelsea fans buy tickets for their own away games?
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,454
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    cafctom said:
    Anyone else got a sneaky feeling the government will absolutely “vary” the conditions as soon as they can, on the quiet? 

    There’s no way they’ll keep these conditions in place long term.
    Exactly this. There's no way this will carry into next season.

    Government have done it to be seen to be doing the right thing, but they'll let a sale go through in the summer i'm sure, as obviously the situation can't continue.
    Thing is, they are 100% correct in letting a sale go through, as long as the proceeds are then seized. It would be completely unreasonable to insist the club can't be run properly and can't be sold. This is (or should be) about denying Abramovich his UK assets, so him selling the club and receiving none of the proceeds is fully in line with that.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,014
    randy andy said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    cafctom said:
    Anyone else got a sneaky feeling the government will absolutely “vary” the conditions as soon as they can, on the quiet? 

    There’s no way they’ll keep these conditions in place long term.
    Exactly this. There's no way this will carry into next season.

    Government have done it to be seen to be doing the right thing, but they'll let a sale go through in the summer i'm sure, as obviously the situation can't continue.
    Thing is, they are 100% correct in letting a sale go through, as long as the proceeds are then seized. It would be completely unreasonable to insist the club can't be run properly and can't be sold. This is (or should be) about denying Abramovich his UK assets, so him selling the club and receiving none of the proceeds is fully in line with that.
    Yes 100%. A sale will be allowed to go through, they'll just ensure he gets none of the money.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    edited March 2022
    Gribbo said:
    robroy said:

    Just seen this on Facebook.

    Would say it's a bit harsh on the club and their supporters, but the way they've acted and come out the woodwork since the dough come in, a bit like Citeh, has been questionable. Could they appeal and still be allowed to operate, with any proceeds destined for Abro's pockets being seized? Or suppose that's too complicated.....
    They've been chanting Abramovic's name during the Ukraine silences so my sympathy for the fans is lacking. 

    This should have happened 10+ days ago and means any sanctions imposed are a lot less valuable; because we've given the people time to move assets around away from our grasp. 

    Are Chelsea that affected? They were never a money making operation anyway.

    I'm sure Roman won't be too bothered in a months time when everything is dropped and it now looks like he's been 'punished' so people will now stop calling for him to be sanctioned. 


  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,455
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    No away fans i assume means at Stamford bridge, but can Chelsea fans buy tickets for their own away games?

    Tickets for the Middlesbrough away FA Cup match will not go on sale today as planned.

  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    SELR_addicks said:
    Gribbo said:
    robroy said:

    Just seen this on Facebook.

    Would say it's a bit harsh on the club and their supporters, but the way they've acted and come out the woodwork since the dough come in, a bit like Citeh, has been questionable. Could they appeal and still be allowed to operate, with any proceeds destined for Abro's pockets being seized? Or suppose that's too complicated.....
    They've been chanting Abramovic's name during the Ukraine silences so my sympathy for the fans is lacking. 

    This should have happened 10+ days ago and means any sanctions imposed as a lot less valuable because we've given the people time to move assets around and away from our grasp. 

    Are Chelsea that affected? They were never a money making operation anyway.

    I'm sure Roman won't be too bothered in a months time when everything is dropped and it now looks like he's been 'punished' so people will now stop calling for him to be sanctioned. 


    I think it was Prague who posted a Tweet thread that outlined their finances. Well worth a read. From what I took from it, RA has been keeping them ticking over, but without similar financial input from a benefactor, they're in a precarious position. 

  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 515
    Oh dear, what a pity.

    Shame it's taken so long.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    edited March 2022
    Stig said:
    Gribbo said:
    robroy said:

    Just seen this on Facebook.

    Would say it's a bit harsh on the club and their supporters, but the way they've acted and come out the woodwork since the dough come in, a bit like Citeh, has been questionable. Could they appeal and still be allowed to operate, with any proceeds destined for Abro's pockets being seized? Or suppose that's too complicated.....
    Fuck 'em! They've been living on false glories bought with stolen money for years. I didn't hear too much complaining from them about that. Meanwhile smaller clubs are forced into a desperate economic position due to the top heavy nature of football funding that their club supports and their 'grab all the good players' model which has been employed by Chelsea more than any other of the big boys. It'll do them good to be taken down a peg or two.
    Gribbo said:
    robroy said:

    Just seen this on Facebook.

    Would say it's a bit harsh on the club and their supporters, but the way they've acted and come out the woodwork since the dough come in, a bit like Citeh, has been questionable. Could they appeal and still be allowed to operate, with any proceeds destined for Abro's pockets being seized? Or suppose that's too complicated.....

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    He now can't put money in if I'm right? and they are totally reliant on central payments or any cash on hand that RA left? 

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