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Chelsea - Abramovich sanctioned (p9)

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Had a quiet little weep for Chelski this morning...   FUCK OFF!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,337
    Not sure Dorries has got this one quite right. If the football club is "the bedrock of the community"  and with the stroke of the pen you have effectively just trashed that community ( with no further ticket sales, no chance of seeing the team at SB except STH's, and a shoal of other measures against that "community". 

    Is it not possible to keep the club operating as was but with all revenue streams going to the Govt and not RA? Seems punishing Chelsea fans, while enjoyable on one level, is not a just response. 

    If the issue is that RA is sanctioned for his previous close ties to the war criminal Putin then is there not an argument that anyone with any close ties to anyone who bombs the hell out of another group of people should also be sanctioned? I imagine the multibillion pound global sporting world would shrink quite markedly if this was the case.
     

    This would be a de facto nationalised football club, inevitably ending in administration.  
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    If Chelsea weren't such an odious club I'd feel more sorry for their fans. Also the reaction of many of them that its not fair on their club depsite the fact  people are being bombed in hospitals by a regime their owner has deep ties with lessens my sympathies even further. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited March 2022
    Chelsea fans are a total disgrace.

    I have been calling Abramovich, Putin's bitch for about two decades now but in some ways I was wrong ?

    Abramovich, after befriending the drunk President Boris Yeltsin, was in a position to support Putin and aid his powerful position at the top table of the Kremlin.

    Abramovich helped Putin when VP was the KGB ruthless strongman who wanted to be king. Putin who personally picked the two "tourists" to go to Salisbury and then laugh at the weak UK.

    Abramovich has enabled Putin from the beginning.

    At last the front pages can say what some of us have known for two decades; Putin and Abramovich are blood brothers.

  • I wouldn't trust the judgement of any of the ministers in this government- Boris over partygate, Liss Truss over yes we would support people going to fight in Ukraine ( shes the Foreign Secretary for heaven's sake -is she completely mad )  and now we have Nadine Dorries shutting the club shop and not allowing people to buy tickets for the games - what absolute nonsense. Yes, of course they should sanction him and prevent him from extricating any monies from a sale - but closing the club shop - what a stupid thing to do. As if Abramovic cares about sales of mugs and key rings. 
    The quality of ministers and MPs - on all sides of the House is at an all time low. 
  • sarge1g
    sarge1g Posts: 713
    Hope we got all of the fee for Burstow up front and not in instalments.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,525
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I am finding the difference in views of Chelsea between different generations of fans fascinating….

    The younger fans have always only ever known them being a big club and as such see them as one of the elite.

    Problem is those of us with longer memories are well aware that they are not that big a club…. Take Romans money away and what they are doing is not naturally sustainable by a mile.

    Spurs are ten thousand times bigger as a club. Chelsea are like Man City for me…. And not in the same tier as Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs.

    Chelsea in my eyes are like a West Ham.
    Depends how far back you're going though? If you grew up in the 70s and 80s then yes you won't see them historically as a big club.

    But people forget that in the 7 years before Abramovich took over, Chelsea won 6 trophies and finished in the top 6 of the PL every season. They were already in the Champions league when he bought them. 
    But they'd spent beyond their means in that time and was on the cusp of being shut down as they had defaulted on a £75m loan...  they had debts around £140-150m then before the huge influx of PL cash of recent times.

    Abramovich saved them from the abyss.

    Looks like he was just delaying the inevitable..."What goes around comes around"
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    alburyaddick said:
    I wouldn't trust the judgement of any of the ministers in this government- Boris over partygate, Liss Truss over yes we would support people going to fight in Ukraine ( shes the Foreign Secretary for heaven's sake -is she completely mad )  and now we have Nadine Dorries shutting the club shop and not allowing people to buy tickets for the games - what absolute nonsense. Yes, of course they should sanction him and prevent him from extricating any monies from a sale - but closing the club shop - what a stupid thing to do. As if Abramovic cares about sales of mugs and key rings. 
    The quality of ministers and MPs - on all sides of the House is at an all time low. 
    That's a very good post. I hadn't thought of this previously but it's exactly this sort of detail which is fuelling the fans' sense of victimhood which we are all busy bashing. As you say, utterly inept politics. The very trademark of Nadine Dorries of course
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Some people may be from West London, born and bred, and Chelsea is in their DNA.

    They have a genuine passion for a club that means something to them.

    Basically, they have a brain dead disease, and they are probably naturally really stupid.

    Everyone can instinctively tell that Chelsea have been an awful club since Roman Russian took over.

    Yes, they have been winners on many occasions but that is only because a stupid arrogant c*nt has been hiding in plain sight.

    Hopefully, he has lost loads and loads of money and Chelsea will be paying a huge price.

    That price being, their soul. Which they sold to a Russian dickhead.


  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,184
    Abramovich is an enabler to a manic gangster, football as a whole sold its soul to the devil long long ago.
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  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,589
    ct_addick said:
    The people i feel sorry for in all this are the ordinary behind the scenes workers at Chelsea, some of whom will no doubt lose their jobs as a result of the sanctions.
    Scummy fans and scummy club....look what they did to the Valley in the 70's....
    April 77 in particular, even though we won 4-0 it wasn't a pleasant evening.....hated them ever since.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,607
    I know a few Chelsea fans.
    One of them is the only one I’ve seen defending Putins special operation blaming NATO.

    That says it all for me tbh.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,194
    edited March 2022
    JohnBoyUK said:
    I am finding the difference in views of Chelsea between different generations of fans fascinating….

    The younger fans have always only ever known them being a big club and as such see them as one of the elite.

    Problem is those of us with longer memories are well aware that they are not that big a club…. Take Romans money away and what they are doing is not naturally sustainable by a mile.

    Spurs are ten thousand times bigger as a club. Chelsea are like Man City for me…. And not in the same tier as Man Utd, Liverpool, Arsenal, Spurs.

    Chelsea in my eyes are like a West Ham.
    Depends how far back you're going though? If you grew up in the 70s and 80s then yes you won't see them historically as a big club.

    But people forget that in the 7 years before Abramovich took over, Chelsea won 6 trophies and finished in the top 6 of the PL every season. They were already in the Champions league when he bought them. 
    But they'd spent beyond their means in that time and was on the cusp of being shut down as they had defaulted on a £75m loan...  they had debts around £140-150m then before the huge influx of PL cash of recent times.

    Abramovich saved them from the abyss.
    And failed to set them up for the long term. They can't survive without a benefactor. They don't have the crowd base, the stadium, the brand - none of the things required to compete at the highest level without big financial backing. That's why they're not in the same category as the rest of the top clubs. Spurs don't have the trophies but they have got the stadium and potential revenue. Same with Arsenal. 

    I fucking love that Abramovich didn't have the opportunity/ interest in setting them up for life without him. 
  • I wouldn’t worry too much for Chelsea. The government have made it clear that preserving the club is important and of course it is. They’ll change hands quite quickly and as a football club they will just replace one mega rich benefactor for another mega rich benefactor. Normal service will be resumed pdq.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    I wouldn’t worry too much for Chelsea. The government have made it clear that preserving the club is important and of course it is. They’ll change hands quite quickly and as a football club they will just replace one mega rich benefactor for another mega rich benefactor. Normal service will be resumed pdq.
    Polar opposite to us 
  • It’s all about posturing with the government, will be interesting if this holds water legally through the transfer window when it opens, and next season.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,650
    edited March 2022
    Stig said:
    It is less fair what has happened to Ukraine.  What planet do these people  exist on. I think Chelski should be banned or wrapped up to stop Abramovic profiting from the evil he supports. 
    I think Chelski should be banned or wrapped up just for the shits and giggles of it.
    That as well. I believe he bought the club for a £1 from Ken Bates. Abramovic has always had that smug look about him. There was a time in the 60's when I knew some of the Chelsea players including Osgood through a Charlton  player.  They were decent blokes. 
    I think Abramovic  should  be given his quid back and told that is it as he is still in a supporter if Putin . 
    Fun fact. Kenneth gave me £0.80p of that pound as a tip when I dropped him off at his Knightsbridge apartment after a duck lunch at the Ritz.

    Tight cnut 🤣
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    It’s all about posturing with the government, will be interesting if this holds water legally through the transfer window when it opens, and next season.
    Reckon it'll be done and dusted before the end of the season, and if it ain't, maybe the incumbent will get any embargo waived if the deal is close?
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited March 2022
    Maybe Southall could buy them! 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Seeing how many appear to be interested in weighing out upto £4b for Chelsea, can't see why there were so few more interest in paying a relative drop in the ocean to buy us. It must be easier to recoup £100m(?) by buying a club that has space to improve, rather than recoup £4b on a cub that is already at the top of its game? And I hought these high achieving billionaire types were up for a challenge. Charlatans ;)


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  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,623
    Stig said:
    It is less fair what has happened to Ukraine.  What planet do these people  exist on. I think Chelski should be banned or wrapped up to stop Abramovic profiting from the evil he supports. 
    I think Chelski should be banned or wrapped up just for the shits and giggles of it.
    That as well. I believe he bought the club for a £1 from Ken Bates. Abramovic has always had that smug look about him. There was a time in the 60's when I knew some of the Chelsea players including Osgood through a Charlton  player.  They were decent blokes. 
    I think Abramovic  should  be given his quid back and told that is it as he is still in a supporter if Putin . 
    Fun fact. Kenneth gave me £0.80p of that pound as a tip when I dropped him off at his Knightsbridge apartment after a duck lunch at the Ritz.

    Tight cnut 🤣
    I had the misfortune of being sat on the same table as him years ago at a charity dinner event - an odious, vile and rude individual - horrible man

    I did however have the great pleasure of telling him that I was in the away end at Stamford Bridge in 1988 - his reaction ‘Charlton are a fucking nothing club, so piss off you tosser’
  • I note the Chelsea supporters trust reckon the fans would settle for a decade without trophies if it meant that the club would survive.  I mean, how on earth would one manage without trophies?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Maybe Southall could buy them! 

    I hate that guy more then Roland. Just a bastard
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,485
    Dave2l said:
    Maybe Southall could buy them! 

    I hate that guy more then Roland. Just a bastard
    Would love to see him fuck someone like Abro about.

    Poison tipped brolly up the jacksie
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Josh Harris, one of the Palace shareholders is rumoured to be preparing a bid for Chelsea, which means he’ll have to sell his shares in Palace. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,525
    edited March 2022
    Gribbo said:
    Dave2l said:
    Maybe Southall could buy them! 

    I hate that guy more then Roland. Just a bastard
    Would love to see him fuck someone like Abro about.

    Poison tipped brolly up the jacksie

    He'd probably enjoy it,... till the poison kicked in... B)
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    edited March 2022
    Just got back from the stadium from picking up some of my stuff…. One thing is for sure I’m not gonna be working out of there again for a long while.

    Spoken to a few guys at the club and know somebody very prominent and they seriously think they are up shit creek without a paddle.

    Negotiations at a government level are now focussed on saving the club because as of next month they are totally and royally fucked.

    Anyone employed via third party (cleaners, security etc) all gone. All their directors are being sent (quite literally) round the world to source urgent investment to try and save the club.

    It’s the strangest feeling I have ever had at a football stadium. 


  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633