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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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But apart from that?Todds_right_hook said:Ive asked a womble mate about Guinness-walker
"poor business from you boys if you get rid of purrington for Guinness-Walker. He is an awful player that couldn't get a game for the team that deservedly finished 23rd!
he can't cross and can't defend, I was expecting him to drop down the football pyramid, not move up it"7 -
Disappointing, as normally when I'm out for the day, loads of transfer business happens.ButtleJR said:Don't expect anything to be announced today or tomorrow. Apparently could be more than 2 next week if everything goes to plan.1 -
He more often than not puts his shorts on back to front.North Lower Neil said:
But apart from that?Todds_right_hook said:Ive asked a womble mate about Guinness-walker
"poor business from you boys if you get rid of purrington for Guinness-Walker. He is an awful player that couldn't get a game for the team that deservedly finished 23rd!
he can't cross and can't defend, I was expecting him to drop down the football pyramid, not move up it"2 -
More likelygrumpyaddick said:So to recap the Charlton Athletic 2022 black-box transfer strategy in full:
1. Cheap, injury-prone players that used to play for Charlton
2. Cheap, injury-prone players that currently play for Swindon
3. Err....that's it.
Black Box search criteria
1. Free Agent in League Two or lower.
2. Nobody else wants.
3. Must be able to play in any position
4. Must not have an agent
Black Box Search results......
No players match your search criteria.
Please alter your search criteria or utilise the academy players until they develop to a high enough standard to get sold.
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Really hoped for something this week. It’s all very frustrating, and I’ve been urging patience!1
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We'll make a couple of good signings, mainly doing decent business signing a few of Swindon's best players. We will sign the CB from Gillingham, who will start well but inevitably get injured. We will leave it all a bit last minute, scrambling around getting some free agents/loans who arn't promotion material (Elliot Lee esque, maybe even the man himself).
We're gonna come 10th, a slight improvement on last season but still thoroughly disappointing. People will over analysis the manager to death throughout the season but the reality is as always, you get out of this division depending on your recruitment.3 -
He should know the system he wants to play and the players he wants which has nothing to do with his coaching staff. They will help implement it of course but ultimately Garner and not his coaches will have the final input on players.Valley11 said:
I keep saying it, but he needs his coaching team in place first otherwise we’re going the same route as Dowie, Adkins etcbolloxbolder said:We have been a basket case of a club ever since we clapped Curbs out the front door. Even I didn't expect us to have not signed anyone by mid June. What really gets me is it sounds like JJ had players lined up at the Player of the Year do. If Garner does not turn out well, I will be furious.6 -
Christ…..talk about glass half empty. 🤔cafcsinger said:We'll make a couple of good signings, mainly doing decent business signing a few of Swindon's best players. We will sign the CB from Gillingham, who will start well but inevitably get injured. We will leave it all a bit last minute, scrambling around getting some free agents/loans who arn't promotion material (Elliot Lee esque, maybe even the man himself).
We're gonna come 10th, a slight improvement on last season but still thoroughly disappointing. People will over analysis the manager to death throughout the season but the reality is as always, you get out of this division depending on your recruitment.4 -
Valley11 said:
I keep saying it, but he needs his coaching team in place first otherwise we’re going the same route as Dowie, Adkins etcbolloxbolder said:We have been a basket case of a club ever since we clapped Curbs out the front door. Even I didn't expect us to have not signed anyone by mid June. What really gets me is it sounds like JJ had players lined up at the Player of the Year do. If Garner does not turn out well, I will be furious.
People laughed when I said we were already way behind after taking nearly 5 weeks to appoint a manager.
The recruitment team can do all the work they want in the background, means nothing until the manager is in.5 -
The relying on the academy players theory would hold more weight if we weren't still waiting for a lot of those players to sign deals.
It maybe that deals are done or being negotiated but they haven't been announced.1 - Sponsored links:
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In the immortal words of Russell Slade, " ....... ".
Oh, I've forgotten what it is.
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It's not done until it's done.Henry Irving said:The relying on the academy players theory would hold more weight if we weren't still waiting for a lot of those players to sign deals.
It maybe that deals are done or being negotiated but they haven't been announced.
WIOTOS, Henry.
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What happen to the deals that were being kept warm? They must be tepid by now.1
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Yes but looking at the bigger picture, it doesn’t matter what players Garner signs if he doesn’t have the coaching team who helped him to recent success.king addick said:
He should know the system he wants to play and the players he wants which has nothing to do with his coaching staff. They will help implement it of course but ultimately Garner and not his coaches will have the final input on players.Valley11 said:
I keep saying it, but he needs his coaching team in place first otherwise we’re going the same route as Dowie, Adkins etcbolloxbolder said:We have been a basket case of a club ever since we clapped Curbs out the front door. Even I didn't expect us to have not signed anyone by mid June. What really gets me is it sounds like JJ had players lined up at the Player of the Year do. If Garner does not turn out well, I will be furious.2 -
More of the same that we've seen from day one I fear. Nothing seen so far to suggest otherwise.
Think we will be pining for Connor Washington and Ben Purrington by Christmas and can't see as it is today any real promotion challenge.
I really hoped this window and preseason was going to be different but appears not so far.
Not a promotion challenging squad at present and a lot of work needs to be done next couple of weeks to ensure we don't waste the first third of the season again with inevitable injuries etc especially if relying on likes of innis and aneke.
Garner is going to have his work cut out in 6 weeks I think.
Big few weeks coming up but instinct is that it'll be another hope for the best anti climax of a window and lying to ourselves about players we bring in being capable of forming a promotion challenging squad and being better or as good as what we've let go ie purrington and Washington.
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Bit like Boris's oven ready deal on Northern Ireland.charlton_hero said:What happen to the deals that were being kept warm? They must be tepid by now.0 -
Was CBT crap?Leaburn Forever said:
and thats where we fall down as a club, we should be looking for good players to improve our team, not back up players.Garrymanilow said:
Well, that's not really true. In his first season at Blackpool he played 22 games, scored 4 and assisted 3 in the league. He was first choice until about December before getting dropped, followed by the manager getting sacked. Blackpool changed manager and the next season he played 36 league games, scored 7 and assisted 8, including a run at the end when he was involved in 10 goals in 14 games. He was definitely a backup option for Wycombe but quite an effective one in their run to the Play-Off final. Given that CBT will most likely be our first choice in his spot an effective backup wouldn't be a bad thing.LargeAddick said:
doesn't look like he was even fancied as a League One player.Garrymanilow said:
Honestly, when was the last time you saw him play? I'm not digging you out, I'm wondering the same about when I last saw him. I feel like I briefly saw him come on for Sierra Leone at AFCON and I was filled with rage - my memory of him is as one of the worst signings we've ever made, he was so useless I don't even remember him as bad, more as essentially nothing at all. When I saw his name come up I was not impressed. I remember that he signed under Robinson though, so that was the 17/18 season. That means he last played for us 4 years ago when he was 22. By all accounts he's done alright since then, decent for Blackpool and an effective backup at Wycombe. As ButtleJR said being involved in 9 goals from 17 games is really good; half the time he played, he contributed to a goal being scored. A thing that a lot of teams struggle to identify is players who can actually have an impact when they come off the bench or in after not playing for a while and we'll need players like that. I'd hope that we'd be looking at a better player ahead of him as one thing from his stats is that he's clearly not fancied as a Championship player. If he leaves Wycombe it'll likely be in search of more first team opportunities, but if he hadn't appeared for us in that short loan when he was quite young I wonder if we'd all be having this reaction. I think we'll likely be placing a lot of eggs in the CBT basket this season and we'll need a player to come in for him when he needs a break or his hamstrings twang. I don't know if there's any truth to this Kaikai rumour but it's not the maddest thing I've ever seen now that I've had a look at his recent record. I think I'm fairly guilty of holding that bad loan spell against himLargeAddick said:
Have you ever seen him play? If we are aiming for players like him then we are fucked to put it bluntly.ButtleJR said:2 goals and 7 assists from 17 games last season, many of which off the bench is a very decent return. I wouldn't write Kaikai off just yet. Garner will know him from palace too.
Why buy back up players to a team that was crap last season?
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I wish I'd said thatOggy Red said:
It's not done until it's done.Henry Irving said:The relying on the academy players theory would hold more weight if we weren't still waiting for a lot of those players to sign deals.
It maybe that deals are done or being negotiated but they haven't been announced.
WIOTOS, Henry.2 -
I’d be even more worried if we’d made some poor signings already. At least not knowing leaves room for hope.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:More of the same that we've seen from day one I fear. Nothing seen so far to suggest otherwise.
Think we will be pining for Connor Washington and Ben Purrington by Christmas and can't see as it is today any real promotion challenge.
I really hoped this window and preseason was going to be different but appears not so far.
Not a promotion challenging squad at present and a lot of work needs to be done next couple of weeks to ensure we don't waste the first third of the season again with inevitable injuries etc especially if relying on likes of innis and aneke.
Garner is going to have his work cut out in 6 weeks I think.
Big few weeks coming up but instinct is that it'll be another hope for the best anti climax of a window and lying to ourselves about players we bring in being capable of forming a promotion challenging squad and being better or as good as what we've let go ie purrington and Washington.4 - Sponsored links:
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Or then selling those academy players at the first opportunity.Henry Irving said:The relying on the academy players theory would hold more weight if we weren't still waiting for a lot of those players to sign deals.
It maybe that deals are done or being negotiated but they haven't been announced.0 -
I'm never not amazed how this site goes from random tweet, to one opposition fans opinion to melt down so quickly20
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I've spoken to my AFC Wimbledon mate.
No, tell a lie, I don't have any mates.27 -
If Guinness-walker had gone to Portsmouth in January, sure as anything, the same people losing it now over one AFCW fans opinion, would have been screaming that he was someone we should sign, and where's the ambition.2
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TBF signing CBT was a fluke. I would happily take 10 flukes if that's what it takes though.Garrymanilow said:
Was CBT crap?Leaburn Forever said:
and thats where we fall down as a club, we should be looking for good players to improve our team, not back up players.Garrymanilow said:
Well, that's not really true. In his first season at Blackpool he played 22 games, scored 4 and assisted 3 in the league. He was first choice until about December before getting dropped, followed by the manager getting sacked. Blackpool changed manager and the next season he played 36 league games, scored 7 and assisted 8, including a run at the end when he was involved in 10 goals in 14 games. He was definitely a backup option for Wycombe but quite an effective one in their run to the Play-Off final. Given that CBT will most likely be our first choice in his spot an effective backup wouldn't be a bad thing.LargeAddick said:
doesn't look like he was even fancied as a League One player.Garrymanilow said:
Honestly, when was the last time you saw him play? I'm not digging you out, I'm wondering the same about when I last saw him. I feel like I briefly saw him come on for Sierra Leone at AFCON and I was filled with rage - my memory of him is as one of the worst signings we've ever made, he was so useless I don't even remember him as bad, more as essentially nothing at all. When I saw his name come up I was not impressed. I remember that he signed under Robinson though, so that was the 17/18 season. That means he last played for us 4 years ago when he was 22. By all accounts he's done alright since then, decent for Blackpool and an effective backup at Wycombe. As ButtleJR said being involved in 9 goals from 17 games is really good; half the time he played, he contributed to a goal being scored. A thing that a lot of teams struggle to identify is players who can actually have an impact when they come off the bench or in after not playing for a while and we'll need players like that. I'd hope that we'd be looking at a better player ahead of him as one thing from his stats is that he's clearly not fancied as a Championship player. If he leaves Wycombe it'll likely be in search of more first team opportunities, but if he hadn't appeared for us in that short loan when he was quite young I wonder if we'd all be having this reaction. I think we'll likely be placing a lot of eggs in the CBT basket this season and we'll need a player to come in for him when he needs a break or his hamstrings twang. I don't know if there's any truth to this Kaikai rumour but it's not the maddest thing I've ever seen now that I've had a look at his recent record. I think I'm fairly guilty of holding that bad loan spell against himLargeAddick said:
Have you ever seen him play? If we are aiming for players like him then we are fucked to put it bluntly.ButtleJR said:2 goals and 7 assists from 17 games last season, many of which off the bench is a very decent return. I wouldn't write Kaikai off just yet. Garner will know him from palace too.
Why buy back up players to a team that was crap last season?4 -
We have a fragile bunch of supporters, don't we? That or some form of personality disorder that means we get so uptight and depressive so quickly, and so over excited in short bursts. The life of a Charlton fan, especially on here, is bloody exhausting.
It's the 16th June, the players are not yet back for pre season testing, let alone training, we are in a heatwave, go get some sun, drink some water, take your tablets, and chill.
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But the manager was not available and still involved with his clubJ BLOCK said:Valley11 said:
I keep saying it, but he needs his coaching team in place first otherwise we’re going the same route as Dowie, Adkins etcbolloxbolder said:We have been a basket case of a club ever since we clapped Curbs out the front door. Even I didn't expect us to have not signed anyone by mid June. What really gets me is it sounds like JJ had players lined up at the Player of the Year do. If Garner does not turn out well, I will be furious.
People laughed when I said we were already way behind after taking nearly 5 weeks to appoint a manager.
The recruitment team can do all the work they want in the background, means nothing until the manager is in.3 -
Long CovidSage said:We have a fragile bunch of supporters, don't we? That or some form of personality disorder that means we get so uptight and depressive so quickly, and so over excited in short bursts. The life of a Charlton fan, especially on here, is bloody exhausting.
It's the 16th June, the players are not yet back for pre season testing, let alone training, we are in a heatwave, go get some sun, drink some water, take your tablets, and chill.0
