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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/cowley-callum-johnson-portsmouth-transfer-5845169

    Danny Cowley explains why Callum Johnson was allowed to leave Portsmouth in loan transfer

    Portsmouth defender Callum Johnson surprisingly left Fratton Park on loan on Friday afternoon to join League One rivals Fleetwood Town on a season-long move and Danny Cowley has explained why


    Portsmouth boss Danny Cowley admitted that he did not want to lose defender Callum Johnson on loan, whilst adding he is now looking for a right-sided defender before the transfer window shuts. 

    The defender left Fratton Park on Friday afternoon to join League One rivals Fleetwood Town on a season-long loan deal, despite being a mainstay and impressing during his 2020/21 debut campaign with the club.

    Johnson's switch has meant that the Blues only have one senior right-back at present, with the Blues wanting to develop Haji Mnoga in a central position.

    Cowley admitted that because of Johnson's ability, it was easier to move him out in order to create funds ahead of making further signings.

    "Callum wasn't one we particularly wanted to lose, but with all due respect some players have more of a market than others," explained Cowley.

    "We allowed Callum to go out creates some funds to bring one in, maybe one and a half.

    "We are trying to improve our squad and to try and find a balance, and sometimes you have to make those decisions that you don't always want to make."

    The defender was not par of the Fleetwood squad for their trip to Plymouth Argyle, but his exit does create a gap in the Blues' squad.

    And whilst Cowley has expressed his desire to sign an attacking player, he also admitted that Pompey need to sign another right-back in order to challenge at the top end of the table. 

    "We now also need to add a right-back and that could play at right-sided centre half in an ideal world, but that might be one that financially is a little bit cheaper for us.," added Cowley.

    So they let a good player go as he would generate the funds to get a replacement in for him, but they haven't got one lined up.  Makes as much sense as our recruitment.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,783
    cfgs said:
    https://www.hampshirelive.news/sport/football/cowley-callum-johnson-portsmouth-transfer-5845169

    Danny Cowley explains why Callum Johnson was allowed to leave Portsmouth in loan transfer

    Portsmouth defender Callum Johnson surprisingly left Fratton Park on loan on Friday afternoon to join League One rivals Fleetwood Town on a season-long move and Danny Cowley has explained why


    Portsmouth boss Danny Cowley admitted that he did not want to lose defender Callum Johnson on loan, whilst adding he is now looking for a right-sided defender before the transfer window shuts. 

    The defender left Fratton Park on Friday afternoon to join League One rivals Fleetwood Town on a season-long loan deal, despite being a mainstay and impressing during his 2020/21 debut campaign with the club.

    Johnson's switch has meant that the Blues only have one senior right-back at present, with the Blues wanting to develop Haji Mnoga in a central position.

    Cowley admitted that because of Johnson's ability, it was easier to move him out in order to create funds ahead of making further signings.

    "Callum wasn't one we particularly wanted to lose, but with all due respect some players have more of a market than others," explained Cowley.

    "We allowed Callum to go out creates some funds to bring one in, maybe one and a half.

    "We are trying to improve our squad and to try and find a balance, and sometimes you have to make those decisions that you don't always want to make."

    The defender was not par of the Fleetwood squad for their trip to Plymouth Argyle, but his exit does create a gap in the Blues' squad.

    And whilst Cowley has expressed his desire to sign an attacking player, he also admitted that Pompey need to sign another right-back in order to challenge at the top end of the table. 

    "We now also need to add a right-back and that could play at right-sided centre half in an ideal world, but that might be one that financially is a little bit cheaper for us.," added Cowley.

    So they let a good player go as he would generate the funds to get a replacement in for him, but they haven't got one lined up.  Makes as much sense as our recruitment.
    They ended up replacing him with Mahlon Romeo on loan from Millwall.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    CH4RLTON said:
    I mean I get why people are starting to panick given what happened last season, but Thomas and Gallen have both come out and said there main aim is to not end up in that position again, do you really think they would say that if there was any chance of it happening? I’d be amazed if we don’t sign at least 5 players before the start of the season them probably another 6/7 before the end of the window including loans
    So they want to avoid making last seasons mistake of going into the season short on players. You trust Thomas and Gallen to do that. But you think we’ll sign about 5 players and then make the majority of our signings towards the back end of the window. So you think they’ll repeat exactly what we did last year, even though you also think we won’t repeat what they did last year? 
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,549
    edited June 2022
    Only thing i can tell for sure is he's a Kanye West fan 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Johnson also has the same management team as some of our current and ex players 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,179
    Much, much more important that we get the right players than we get players early. Ideally you do both, but we signed players relatively late in 2018 and got promoted. The difference was the calibre of the players we signed was much better than last summer. 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    J BLOCK said:
    CH4RLTON said:
    I mean I get why people are starting to panick given what happened last season, but Thomas and Gallen have both come out and said there main aim is to not end up in that position again, do you really think they would say that if there was any chance of it happening? I’d be amazed if we don’t sign at least 5 players before the start of the season them probably another 6/7 before the end of the window including loans
    We're in that position already, when you look at the amount of players we need. Season starts in little over one month. 
    Exactly. 
    Pre season started last week
    Spanish tour starts this week. 

    So far 14 players have left and none have come in.
    Pre season starts Monday
    Spanish tour starts Saturday 

    Fully expect three signings this week.

    Love the transfer window. It is exciting and really looking forward to seeing who we sign.
    Cheers all you dads out there. 🍺
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mart77 said:
    Johnson also has the same management team as some of our current and ex players 
    The same agent as Lyle Taylor and Barry Bannan as well......
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  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    On squad size, we currently have 16 first team players, including Brewer & Davison. Of those only 2 are orthodox defenders, both of whom were injury hit last term.

    How many players can we name in our squad for the 2022/23 season, applying EFL restrictions, and how many can we sign before we have to shift others out first.

    It's not a trick question. I genuinely don't know and would like to. LoL if you like, but can anyone actually tell me?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484

  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,001
    Sage said:
    Never heard of him personally but having looked, he has played basically 4 full seasons at League One, mainly as a right back. 2 years at Accrington Stanley, one season at Portsmouth, and one year on loan at Fleetwood. Rarely misses a game and usually plays 90 minutes but doesn’t have many assist, although he did score 4 times last season. Seems a solid right back from the very, very little information I’ve put together.
    Sounds like he'd fit the "sensible but not spectacular" criteria. Solid defense at RB and can pitch in at CB if needed (which given our record he probably will at some point.)

    Not a lot of fans either Charlton or otherwise would look at it and think "wow that's a statement signing" but if you are looking to build a solid squad then we need these as well as the big, showpiece signings.
  • cafc4life
    cafc4life Posts: 4,634
    Pete Burns - 55 followers, new to Twitter as of last month. Screams of fake account to me.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,757
    Obviously all hypothetical, but he seems to me to be a player suited to right back or perhaps being a ball playing right sided centre back of a 3? A bit like Clare was last season.
  • ads
    ads Posts: 3,224
    cafc4life said:
    Pete Burns - 55 followers, new to Twitter as of last month. Screams of fake account to me.
    he had some shit hits in the 80s as well
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    swordfish said:
    On squad size, we currently have 16 first team players, including Brewer & Davison. Of those only 2 are orthodox defenders, both of whom were injury hit last term.

    How many players can we name in our squad for the 2022/23 season, applying EFL restrictions, and how many can we sign before we have to shift others out first.

    It's not a trick question. I genuinely don't know and would like to. LoL if you like, but can anyone actually tell me?
    5 I think is the answer.

    Keepers don't count.  The limit has decreased by 1.

    3 of the loans were "under age" so are irrelevant.  The places of the other loans are currently taken by Kirk and Davison returning and Morgan "coming of age".

    We have lost Watson, Souare, Gunter, Matthews , Pearce and Washington and can replace all bar 1 and remain at the limit.  I think.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,308
    Here we go…Round like a record baby round round right round
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    I’d be surprised if Garner was keen on a defensive fullback.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600


    I would take it with a big pile of salt.
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,625
    The Show Me State
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 584
    Cafc43v3r said:


    I would take it with a big pile of salt.
    People are not taking it from him, callum has just started to follow the club and Thomas abit funny from someone if there not possibly signing 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,827
    Anything that starts “it’s my understanding” tends to be drivel.  It’s a ridiculous phrase. 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Johnson was third in Pompeys POTY 2020/2021, although the winner is criticised regularly on here. Johnson was surprisingly frozen out by Cowley and did ok at Fleetwood. Not one that jumps out as a great signing but can’t imagine he’s worse than Matthews or Gunter. 
    We’ve got to get out of this mindset of can’t be worse than.  That’s not a dig mate.  The bar was mediocre with Matthews and Gunter.  Remember when the bar was high with Wiggins, Solly back in the day, and then Dijksteel 

    this guy may be good enough; but a season on loan at Fleetwood and 4 solid seasons in League One as Sage said.  It’s hard to get excited.  
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2022
    FAVADDICK said:
    Cafc43v3r said:


    I would take it with a big pile of salt.
    People are not taking it from him, callum has just started to follow the club and Thomas abit funny from someone if there not possibly signing 
    Maybe we are doing all our negotiations on social media and he had to follow back to get a DM. :wink:

    I was just pointing out Pete Burns is a joke account before anyone got overly excited/outraged. 
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,308
    wmcf123 said:
    Anything that starts “it’s my understanding” tends to be drivel.  It’s a ridiculous phrase. 
    Post truth society, state anything as fact just distance yourself from it at the same time.

    Innit.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    cabbles said:
    Johnson was third in Pompeys POTY 2020/2021, although the winner is criticised regularly on here. Johnson was surprisingly frozen out by Cowley and did ok at Fleetwood. Not one that jumps out as a great signing but can’t imagine he’s worse than Matthews or Gunter. 
    We’ve got to get out of this mindset of can’t be worse than.  That’s not a dig mate.  The bar was mediocre with Matthews and Gunter.  Remember when the bar was high with Wiggins, Solly back in the day, and then Dijksteel 

    this guy may be good enough; but a season on loan at Fleetwood and 4 solid seasons in League One as Sage said.  It’s hard to get excited.  
    Our mind set, what ever it, has no actual influence on anything does it?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,484
    That Pete Burns account is just repeating what he reads and then stating as what he has been told by his ITK contacts.  Bit like the odd poster on here
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Cafc43v3r said:
    swordfish said:
    On squad size, we currently have 16 first team players, including Brewer & Davison. Of those only 2 are orthodox defenders, both of whom were injury hit last term.

    How many players can we name in our squad for the 2022/23 season, applying EFL restrictions, and how many can we sign before we have to shift others out first.

    It's not a trick question. I genuinely don't know and would like to. LoL if you like, but can anyone actually tell me?
    5 I think is the answer.

    Keepers don't count.  The limit has decreased by 1.

    3 of the loans were "under age" so are irrelevant.  The places of the other loans are currently taken by Kirk and Davison returning and Morgan "coming of age".

    We have lost Watson, Souare, Gunter, Matthews , Pearce and Washington and can replace all bar 1 and remain at the limit.  I think.
    Thanks. So up to 5 plus any new loanees.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    Cafc43v3r said:
    cabbles said:
    Johnson was third in Pompeys POTY 2020/2021, although the winner is criticised regularly on here. Johnson was surprisingly frozen out by Cowley and did ok at Fleetwood. Not one that jumps out as a great signing but can’t imagine he’s worse than Matthews or Gunter. 
    We’ve got to get out of this mindset of can’t be worse than.  That’s not a dig mate.  The bar was mediocre with Matthews and Gunter.  Remember when the bar was high with Wiggins, Solly back in the day, and then Dijksteel 

    this guy may be good enough; but a season on loan at Fleetwood and 4 solid seasons in League One as Sage said.  It’s hard to get excited.  
    Our mind set, what ever it, has no actual influence on anything does it?
    Nope, and none of us have any influence on anything transfers, but what’s wrong with saying you don’t agree the ‘can’t be worse than’ comment.  As I said, not a dig in anyway and more a general comment about the quality I think we need.  Cafcfan1990 even said ‘not one that jumps out as a great signing’, and there were other comments about solid league one and ‘sensible not spectacular’ - the mindset comment is just something I’ve interpreted in general on here over the few years.  I think there has been a trend toward people thinking so and so will come good, or if so and so had better players around him, we/they would be right up there.

    I just can’t see it.  At the moment, I see a very mediocre team, and so far this summer (correct or incorrect) the players we’ve been linked with on here make me think next season could be just as poor.  A right back who got farmed out on loan to Fleetwood last season and has had 4 solid seasons just doesn’t get the pulse racing