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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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My bet is a left back, striker and winger to come in. Payne would be good but I'm guessing that relies on us being able to move a midfielder on.9
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I don’t think Kirk will be going anywhere. Indeed I’m going to stick my neck out and say I think he will be a big player for us this season.25
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I would get him in first then focus on getting someone outScoham said:
You'd think Payne won't want to wait much longer so he's part of preseason at his new club.Jac_52 said:My bet is a left back, striker and winger to come in. Payne would be good but I'm guessing that relies on us being able to move a midfielder on.
if it goes the other way we will miss out on the top targets/replacements5 -
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...0 -
Let's wait and see. Was told to me "a few" but not in the next few weeks as it stands. Any one that moves on will of course add to that number. I am positive about next season. Think youth will be given a chance too which isn't a bad thing.Vfrf said:
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...5 -
Kirk more likely to get most from open play (based on history).LargeAddick said:
Agree but apart from Fraser I'm not sure I can see the others chipping in many goals between them.BR7_addick said:
Fraser, JFC, Kirk, McGrandles all playing this season that weren’t last season, surely 4 new midfielders counts as big change in personnel?golfaddick said:
Same sort of figures were bandied about last season & after the strikers the next best was 3 goals.......and that was Purrington. So unless there is a big change in either personnel or tactics I dont see the midfield chipping in with 24 goals !BR7_addick said:
We need about 80 goals to have a crack at it, interesting point as I’ve never really considered it:BigRedEvil said:Midfield I think we're looking pretty solid, but we need some more goals in the team
Stockley 20
Aneke 15
Fraser 7
Kirk 7
CBT 5
JFC 5
Defenders combined 5
Defensive midfielders combined 5
Own goals 3
Thats 72, appreciate some are generous (Aneke/CBT/own goals) assuming we do sign another winger/forward he needs goals in him.We definitely need another goal scoring midfielder. Whatever we play we are going 3 in the middle. We simply cannot go into the season with 5 of them lacking goals to their game. For me Jack Payne makes so much sense. He’s free, plays the style we will be playing and can play with or replace Fraser.3 -
What six teams will have a higher budget?Vfrf said:
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...2 -
"As it stands" the attacking improvement, on last season, comes from Kirk, Fraser, JFC and Aneke. Is that enough?
IMO we are now at about the stage we finished the 2020/21 season.5 -
True, I'm more optimistic this year, sometimes a manager and a philosophy is better than just signing players. That said, it's a huge error in judgement to expect to spend 1/3 of what Derby and Sheffield are on wages/proven players and perform better than them. If Sandgaard does end up exclusively signing lower league/loan players and it doesn't work out, what his gameplan would be next year. I don't think most of the fanbase would stand for it tbh.ButtleJR said:
Let's wait and see. Was told to me "a few" but not in the next few weeks as it stands. Any one that moves on will of course add to that number. I am positive about next season. Think youth will be given a chance too which isn't a bad thing.Vfrf said:
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...1 -
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We simply can’t go in to a season with those 3 strikers. Can’t rely on Aneke to play more than an hour a week and Davison just isn’t good enough. If Stockey get injured, we are £ucked. Hopefully Kanu will break though, but we need at least one more striker.Scoham said:ButtleJR said:Only expecting a couple more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...
Another striker and winger seem the obvious gaps. Left back too if they intend to loan Clayden out.
Still wouldn't surprise me if any of MacGillivray, Morgan, Gilbey, Kirk or Davison move on.
Would guess they see the squad something like this:
GK: Wollacott, MacGillivray
RB: Egbo, Clare
CB: O'Connell, Lavelle, Inniss, Elerewe
LB: Sessengnon, Clayden
DM: Dobson, Forster-Caskey
CM: McGrandles, Fraser, Morgan, Gilbey
W: Jaiyesimi, Blackett-Taylor, Kirk
ST: Stockley, Aneke, Davison25 -
That still looks pretty weak. Bare minimum we need an out and out LB who can play wing- back, LCB, goal scoring CM, winger and striker. Appreciate Morgan/Gilbey and Davison leaving determines that.Scoham said:ButtleJR said:Only expecting a couple more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...
Another striker and winger seem the obvious gaps. Left back too if they intend to loan Clayden out.
Still wouldn't surprise me if any of MacGillivray, Morgan, Gilbey, Kirk or Davison move on.
Would guess they see the squad something like this:
GK: Wollacott, MacGillivray
RB: Egbo, Clare
CB: O'Connell, Lavelle, Inniss, Elerewe
LB: Sessengnon, Clayden
DM: Dobson, Forster-Caskey
CM: McGrandles, Fraser, Morgan, Gilbey
W: Jaiyesimi, Blackett-Taylor, Kirk
ST: Stockley, Aneke, Davison5 -
No but we haven't signed any wingers or strikers yet and I can't see that being the case at the end of the window.Cafc43v3r said:"As it stands" the attacking improvement, on last season, comes from Kirk, Fraser, JFC and Aneke. Is that enough?
IMO we are now at about the stage we finished the 2020/21 season.1 -
Gimme a winger of Liam Miller’s quality and I’ll be very very excited for this season.Cafc43v3r said:"As it stands" the attacking improvement, on last season, comes from Kirk, Fraser, JFC and Aneke. Is that enough?
IMO we are now at about the stage we finished the 2020/21 season.0 -
I think we still need five more:
Starting LCB as I don’t feel lavelle or inniss are good enough to play out from the back
natural LB
a winger to challenge both Kirk and CBT (always gets injured at some point )
2x strikers, Davison is quite simply not good enough to even be considered a 3rd choice back up striker…. If he is, then lord help us
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Like I said, as it stands.Scoham said:
No but we haven't signed any wingers or strikers yet and I can't see that being the case at the end of the window.Cafc43v3r said:"As it stands" the attacking improvement, on last season, comes from Kirk, Fraser, JFC and Aneke. Is that enough?
IMO we are now at about the stage we finished the 2020/21 season.
IMO we still need at least 5 players, in terms of quality/suitability.
The worst bit is we need a striker, winger and midfielder that have got about 30 goals between them.....3 -
Lord help us?000__Jaaaaay__000 said:I think we still need four more:
Starting LCB as I don’t feel lavelle or inniss are either good enough to play out from the back
natural LB
a winger to challenge both Kirk and CBT (always gets injured at some point )
2x strikers, Davison is quite simply not good enough to even be considered a 3rd choice back up striker…. If he is, then lord help us
Chill Winston!1 -
That’s 5000__Jaaaaay__000 said:I think we still need four more:
Starting LCB as I don’t feel lavelle or inniss are either good enough to play out from the back
natural LB
a winger to challenge both Kirk and CBT (always gets injured at some point )
2x strikers, Davison is quite simply not good enough to even be considered a 3rd choice back up striker…. If he is, then lord help us
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We’ve just finished mid div.3, what players are we going to get?, would you prefer the pick of possible up and coming lower league or the worst of the championship players? I think the recruitment team have a plan and a budget and seem to be implementing it. So far so good but as I’ve said all along, no final judgement from me until the season starts.Vfrf said:
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...3 -
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Thing is we’re not probably not going to get another full-back, winger and 2 strikers if we’re playing 352. Otherwise we’ve got far too many players down the flank. If it’s 433 we defo need a winger and full back but only 3 strikers. If it’s 352 we probably need 2 new strikers but not a winger.
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No idea on how they might line up beyond a vague back 4.0
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Garner used both at Swindon, hopefully he has a main formation in mind but we're also building a squad to give us good options for playing either.cafcfan1990 said:Thing is we’re not probably not going to get another full-back, winger and 2 strikers if we’re playing 352. Otherwise we’ve got far too many players down the flank. If it’s 433 we defo need a winger and full back but only 3 strikers. If it’s 352 we probably need 2 new strikers but not a winger.1 -
I think 352 might be the plan but 433 will be used plenty too. I’d guess who we manage to sign will determine “Plan A”.Dazzler21 said:No idea on how they might line up beyond a vague back 4.1 -
Agreed but then it’s tough to determine the final squad. You wouldn’t want 4 strikers if 433 is the main formation for instanceScoham said:
Garner used both at Swindon, hopefully he has a main formation in mind but we're also building a squad to give us good options for playing either.cafcfan1990 said:Thing is we’re not probably not going to get another full-back, winger and 2 strikers if we’re playing 352. Otherwise we’ve got far too many players down the flank. If it’s 433 we defo need a winger and full back but only 3 strikers. If it’s 352 we probably need 2 new strikers but not a winger.0 -
As much as I respect the info from buttle jnr let’s not take that as gospel anyway. If this window has taught us anything is that we don’t know what’s gonna happen.4
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I remember at the end of last season and very early into this pre-season (I think it was SG) said that we are going to focus on the defence and midfield as a priority.
I think those area's are looking decent now. This is what I suspect we will see happen between now and then end of pre-season.
1-2 players loaned out or sold. (Clayden,Davidson)
We will have to see what happens in the window in regards to Kirk and Gilbey. I think BG may want to keep Morgan around, lets see.
Most likely incomings-
Loan: cover for FB/CB
Loan: cover for W/ST
Loan: CM
And that will be us done.
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Does not feel like we are currently going for a 2 up top, so I’m leaning towards some variant of:Dazzler21 said:No idea on how they might line up beyond a vague back 4.
4-3-3
3-4-2-1
Maybe with a sprinkling of 4-2-3-1 thrown in.0 -
I think 4-3-3 is the plan personally, that or 4-2-3-11
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Vfrf said:
It would unfortunately give a lot of credence to those going against Sandgaard recently from a budget perspective. We've got rid of high wages in Watson, Leko, Arter, Gunter, Pearce, Washington & Souare and replaced them with mostly League Two or bottom half League One players. I'm all for poaching the best of League Two but it hardly screams top six budget to me this year.ButtleJR said:Only expecting a few more before the deadline now. Squad almost complete...A top six budget doesn’t equal a top six finish (which for me is the minimum requirement this season). We had a top six budget for last 2 seasons, but it didn’t do us much good.
What we need is players that fit the system we play. Garner is doing that…..hopefully.
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