Heat Wave - Weather Watch

29.3 at 10am in NW Kent.

So just to confirm, the same people who went on about COVID being just a cold and masks being the most serious attack on civil liberties, are the same people who are saying 'it's just weather'? 

Wilma said:

I drive to work, then walk over to the gym for a swim in the outdoor pool. It was very warm this morning walking over, about 22 degrees at 8.00am here in Southampton. It's also a flying ant day! 

Fully 12 days behind us in Bexley.

The other point that is being missed is the long lasting compounding effects of this. So much of our plant life is suffering at the moment due to the temperatures as they aren't able to cope. Driving through the countryside on Friday and so much of it was just brown, even more hardy plants like hedgerows were suffering. Yes they will recover and bounce back when we get the next rains and cooler temps. But throughout this whole period a huge section of our plant life will stop being able to do its job of taking gasses from the atmosphere and producing oxygen. Its time that can never be made up and so (given its happening across large parts of the world) will compound the issue making the next heatwave worse and so on. 

This is just a small example of a tiny part of the system that demonstrates how these problems get exponentially worse very quickly!

SporadicAddick said:

Please don't refer to people as "boomer". Its lazy and aggravating beyond belief...

Like the boomer generation 

The thing about '76 is the peak was around 36, and most of the time it was constantly in the early 30s, never did it get close to this. 

There seems to be a lot of passive aggressiveness on here today. More so than the usual high levels. Also from some of the usual suspects.

I'll put it down to the heat.

SporadicAddick said:

Please don't refer to people as "boomer". Its lazy and aggravating beyond belief...

Ok boomer

cantersaddick said:

SporadicAddick said:

Please don't refer to people as "boomer". Its lazy and aggravating beyond belief...

But yet almost entirely true. 

The same people are allowed to refer to snowflake millennials etc. 

Oi - you snowflake millennial!

Has anyone mentioned 1976 yet? - and what about that winter in 63? 

Major said:

lonman said:

clb74 said:

lonman said:

Leroy Ambrose said:

lonman said:

Must say I agree with the Tory MP who's now copping flack for saying people are being snowflakes for complaining about the weather. I don't ever remember the over the top news coverage, schools closing and the general bitching and moaning when we've had hot weather before. It's going to be hot for a few days, everyone should keep a sense of perspective and get over it. Lord help me if it was raining everyone would be saying what a shitty summer it is. Now it's hot, loads are moaning about that too.  

Are you for real?

Absolutely. I'll tell you what. You stay under your bed with the curtains shut and your ipad so you can post on this forum. I'll message you when it's all over.

You make it all sound so easy Ionman.
Me.
I'm not going in for the 2 days wont be getting paid as self employed.
For me I'm not worried about the money.
There will be not doubt thousands of self employed people up and down the country though who are worried about losing 2 days money and cant afford to lose that money.
I should imagine a few of these will top up going to work and end up in a bad way.
Over the next few days we will hear how many more thousands of 999 calls we have had over the 2 days.
Not all of these calls will be the persons fault.

Not my intention. My opinion is that it's 2 hot days and yes I'm sure people will be affected and that's not great. However, there are things happening everyday that affect peoples lives both positively and negatively. That's life I'm afraid. I'm not being flippant about it, just seeing things as they are.

All the horror headlines, dire warnings and panic actually changes nothing. If anything probably makes people panic more.

Scare tactics. It's all meant to make people alarmed. Scared people consume more. Usual suspects get even richer. Wish I'd had shares in Pfizer before the dreaded plague was 'modelled' to kill most of the planet, for example.

Gonna be hot and unpleasant for those not used to it but do we need nannying to deal with it? Some of these comments have me wondering about the education system.

You do talk some right old bollox. 

CharltonKerry said:

Cantersaddick, Am I a boomer as I was born in ‘53. ‘76 was a long hot summer with a continuous drought from mid May from memory, whilst the temperature wasn’t as hot as now, the drought and associated fun of the government suggesting sharing a bath with a friend made it memorable to most of us in our 20’s. I worked in Croydon and passed Thornton Heath which was alight under ground for 6 months, we had a standpipe outside our house, where you could fill your kettle up from or your bath if you were enthusiastic or in love. 

It’s memorable to me for 3 reasons (these are listed in order of importance) in cricket I got my first five for, secondly I scored my first 50, and lastly I got engaged. Whilst on the cricket theme it was a very wet early season and we recorded our most rained off games in a season. Have a good day losing your shit as you so elegantly put it, and I think up the boomer might be appropriate. 😀. 

Oh and the winter of ‘63 was good as well, but perhaps that’s for a more appropriate day.

I'm not denying it was memorable. But its the same argument as with covid anecdotes does not equal scientific fact. 

As I said it was clearly much more prolonged which will have had other impacts but in terms of peaks it was nowhere near (not even in the top 10 recorded) and it was incredibly localised as the charts I posted showed so the global impact of it on the climate would have been much more minimal.

I more focusing towards people who are using their memories of 1976 as some kind argument that climate change isnt happening.

Not everyone who was born in the boomer generation falls into the "boomer" category. Some are incredibly progressive in their views and try to understand the concerns of the generations that they brought into the world. Others simply do not which infuriates the younger generations because it was the boomer generation that oversaw the biggest accumulation of wealth in history whilst also systematically destroying the environment and leaving mountains of public debt and little to no economic opportunities for their own children.

31.3 at 11am.

There are some problems with all this generation labelling nonsense:

• It has the effect of bundling people together making it look as if they all have the same outlook, purely as an accident of birth; obviously they haven't. It might be sufficient to make some broad marketing generalisations, but it's not going to cut the mustard with the sophisticated analyses required here on Charlton Life. 
• It really doesn't work at all for people born between 1965 and 1980 because as soon as someone mentions what Generation X think, all you can do is roll your eyes and think what an opinionated bastard Billy Idol must be to keep having all these thoughts. Except for Generation Alpha who have no idea who Billy Idol is. 

cantersaddick said:

The other point that is being missed is the long lasting compounding effects of this. So much of our plant life is suffering at the moment due to the temperatures as they aren't able to cope. Driving through the countryside on Friday and so much of it was just brown, even more hardy plants like hedgerows were suffering. Yes they will recover and bounce back when we get the next rains and cooler temps. But throughout this whole period a huge section of our plant life will stop being able to do its job of taking gasses from the atmosphere and producing oxygen. Its time that can never be made up and so (given its happening across large parts of the world) will compound the issue making the next heatwave worse and so on. 

This is just a small example of a tiny part of the system that demonstrates how these problems get exponentially worse very quickly!

You really must stop spouting sense. It’s really obvious that as Rothko pointed out it’s the same old names that chose to ignore advice over Brexit, then Covid and now the UK’s first red weather warning. These people are too thick to grasp the fact that experts in a particular relevant field need to be listened to not ridiculed.