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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    To those saying they hope we don't get left behind, in our promotion season we lost the opening game to Sunderland and we couldn't even name a full bench. Just five of the available seven, those being Ajose, Sarr, AMB, Maloney (I don't even remember him) and Hackett-Fairchild.

    And we went on to get promoted.

    What's strange is that I've just been back through every season since then and I can't find a stronger, fuller squad than the one we've got now. (Find me another season where we've got players like MacGilvray, Payne, Kirk, McGrandles, Gilbey & Lavelle on the BENCH on day one). And yet this board is more overwhelmingly negative than it's ever been. I can only put it down to some kind of collective emotional trauma we've all experienced because objectively we are better placed than we have been in the past five years, including the season we got promoted. 

    The season won't live or die based on whether we do our final business on deadline day or not, we are already further ahead than we've been in a long time.
    We are miles ahead of where we were last summer and the two previous ones at this level.

    In 18/19 we signed a few including Bielik and Cullen after the season started.  In the other two seasons we didn't get promoted, we didn't even finish in the top half last season.  So we are better off than last season isn't really a high bench mark.

    I don't think anyone thinks we won't sign some more people before the window slams shut.  I don't think anyone thinks we have got enough to be promotion challengers now.

    The big question is will we get a couple of Cullen and Bielik level signings or more Lee's and Leko's?

    Last season I was convinced, even after 3 or 4 games that we would get it right.  We didn't.  We got it wrong in January.  Why should I believe we will get it right this time?
    January was tough because we already had nothing to play for. Fraser was a decent investment and we finally replaced Aneke, with Aneke. Castillo and John were poor admittedly, although the former can be explained, even if not defended, if the rumour about signing him for Aneke is true. 
  • paulfox said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    I don’t expect any more permanent signings but loans will be crucial. Can we get some real quality in on loan?
    I fear we have dropped down the pecking order for the really good loans, all depends on Gallen and BG’s pulling power.
    If Garner has a reputation for playing modern possession based football then it will be known at PL clubs. That’s a better bet for their youngsters than with no disrespect meant, Accrington for example.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,730
    I would accept we are ahead. Miles ahead......I'm not so sure.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    paulfox said:
    Taxi_Lad said:
    I don’t expect any more permanent signings but loans will be crucial. Can we get some real quality in on loan?
    I fear we have dropped down the pecking order for the really good loans, all depends on Gallen and BG’s pulling power.
    If Garner has a reputation for playing modern possession based football then it will be known at PL clubs. That’s a better bet for their youngsters than with no disrespect meant, Accrington for example.
    Yes hopefully, I just think maybe the better loans will go to teams competing for promotion, do the other clubs consider us to be in the mix?. I’d assume location is in our favour if we want the better youngsters in London?, all hypothetical thinking.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Chunes said:
    To those saying they hope we don't get left behind, in our promotion season we lost the opening game to Sunderland and we couldn't even name a full bench. Just five of the available seven, those being Ajose, Sarr, AMB, Maloney (I don't even remember him) and Hackett-Fairchild.

    And we went on to get promoted.

    What's strange is that I've just been back through every season since then and I can't find a stronger, fuller squad than the one we've got now. (Find me another season where we've got players like MacGilvray, Payne, Kirk, McGrandles, Gilbey & Lavelle on the BENCH on day one). And yet this board is more overwhelmingly negative than it's ever been. I can only put it down to some kind of collective emotional trauma we've all experienced because objectively we are better placed than we have been in the past five years, including the season we got promoted. 

    The season won't live or die based on whether we do our final business on deadline day or not, we are already further ahead than we've been in a long time.
    We are miles ahead of where we were last summer and the two previous ones at this level.

    In 18/19 we signed a few including Bielik and Cullen after the season started.  In the other two seasons we didn't get promoted, we didn't even finish in the top half last season.  So we are better off than last season isn't really a high bench mark.

    I don't think anyone thinks we won't sign some more people before the window slams shut.  I don't think anyone thinks we have got enough to be promotion challengers now.

    The big question is will we get a couple of Cullen and Bielik level signings or more Lee's and Leko's?

    Last season I was convinced, even after 3 or 4 games that we would get it right.  We didn't.  We got it wrong in January.  Why should I believe we will get it right this time?
    January was tough because we already had nothing to play for. Fraser was a decent investment and we finally replaced Aneke, with Aneke. Castillo and John were poor admittedly, although the former can be explained, even if not defended, if the rumour about signing him for Aneke is true. 
    You could say January was a good window because we have Fraser and A&Eneke now but the 4 of them played how many games?  We had everything to play for on new years day.  We could have got promoted or relegated.

    You could also say that last summer was a good window because Clare has reinvented himself as a defender, CBT got fit about February and Kirk might come good.  Didn't help us at the time though.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    I would accept we are ahead. Miles ahead......I'm not so sure.
    Miles with his head,  certainly.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    I would accept we are ahead. Miles ahead......I'm not so sure.
    Results will decide. 
  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526

    If we’re looking for a wide player think Dale would be a good option, was excellent for Crewe opposite to Kirk
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Rothko said:
    We've got 3 1/2 weeks to go, Garner has said we need a few more, Sandgaard said he thought there would be more business at the end of the window. 

    The business so far has been alright so far, couple more it'll be even better. 
    Even better than bang average? I for one cannot wait to see what further dross comes through the door. 
    Not a dig, just interested to know what dross we have signed so far? Obviously after one game you have a valid opinion….
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    Lewis Bate gone to Oxford 
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    PWADDICK said:

    If we’re looking for a wide player think Dale would be a good option, was excellent for Crewe opposite to Kirk
    Would swap him for Kirk...... 
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,228
    I still reckon we'll get mckirdy... played his best football under Garner and we've signed his best mate. Can't see him not wanting to sign for us and Garner is partial to a Swindon raid. Hope we do aswell, gets goals and is an absolute shithouse, every team needs one
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    Rothko said:
    We've got 3 1/2 weeks to go, Garner has said we need a few more, Sandgaard said he thought there would be more business at the end of the window. 

    The business so far has been alright so far, couple more it'll be even better. 
    Even better than bang average? I for one cannot wait to see what further dross comes through the door. 
    Id "lol" this more if I could...what a ridiculous comment.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    DOUCHER said:
    Lewis Bate gone to Oxford 
    Means JFC won't.... 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited August 2022
    I would accept we are ahead. Miles ahead......I'm not so sure.
    Results will decide. 
    Results will decide the season, definitely. I think anyone can look at a time when we couldn't fill our bench, or started the season with 3-4 youth players, Vs now and decide whether we are ahead or not based purely on the terms of the squad readiness. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    Swindon said to owe a company £312k, though a judge has ruled a winding up petition against them should be dismissed.

    https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/20595713.swindon-town-winding-up-petition-details-emerge-second-debt/
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,907
    Cafc43v3r said:
    DOUCHER said:
    Lewis Bate gone to Oxford 
    Means JFC won't.... 
    not sure we were in the equation this window - definitely last window - Oxford pushing the boat out apparently and they are expecting more prem loans from arsenal and Chelsea 
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    Scoham said:
    He says that every week so he has to be right one day 
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Scoham said:
    Swindon said to owe a company £312k, though a judge has ruled a winding up petition against them should be dismissed.

    https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/20595713.swindon-town-winding-up-petition-details-emerge-second-debt/
    We’ll give you £312k for McKirdy/ any other fancied Swindon player of that value or more etc
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  • Scoham said:
    He said incoming a week ago, rak-sakyi must have only just found his way to our stadium. 
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    Where’s Richard Cawley when you need him?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,782
    CH4RLTON said:
    Where’s Richard Cawley when you need him?
    CH4RLTON said:
    Where’s Richard Cawley when you need him?
    On holiday, the selfish bastard!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    To those saying they hope we don't get left behind, in our promotion season we lost the opening game to Sunderland and we couldn't even name a full bench. Just five of the available seven, those being Ajose, Sarr, AMB, Maloney (I don't even remember him) and Hackett-Fairchild.

    And we went on to get promoted.

    What's strange is that I've just been back through every season since then and I can't find a stronger, fuller squad than the one we've got now. (Find me another season where we've got players like MacGilvray, Payne, Kirk, McGrandles, Gilbey & Lavelle on the BENCH on day one). And yet this board is more overwhelmingly negative than it's ever been. I can only put it down to some kind of collective emotional trauma we've all experienced because objectively we are better placed than we have been in the past five years, including the season we got promoted. 

    The season won't live or die based on whether we do our final business on deadline day or not, we are already further ahead than we've been in a long time.
    Our squad might have more depth than that Sunderland one, but that Sunderland game squad arguably had more quality, the sort of players who are "too good for L1" as shown by the number playing at a higher level, or were signed by us in the Championship such as Bauer and Sarr.

    I remember watching that game and coming away full of optimism as we looked good until Pearce was forced off .



  • Rest of window / season will go like this…

    1. Kirk sold
    2. JFC/Gilbey sold
    3. JRS in on loan
    4. McKirdy in (perm)
    5. Simpson in (perm)
    6. Defender in (loan)
    7. 85 pts
    8. Wembley promotion
    9. Open top bus celebration
    10. Statue of Garner built outside Museum
    7. Bottom 3 at the end of October
    8. Thomas sacks Garner - " We can't keep conceding stupid goals from trying to pass out from the back, I want a manager who can keep a clean sheet and grind out results, we need to attack more quickly. I've always been a believer in direct football."
    9. Tony Pulis becomes the new manager
    10. Jason Pearce comes out of retirement to play as an emergency No 9 with both Stockley and Aneke are injured
    11. Purrington rejoins for £500k to replace Sessegnon who has been recalled by Fulham
    12. We sign 6'9 Kyle Hudlin on loan from Huddersfield as a replacement for Leaburn who goes to Palace for an undisclosed fee
    13. Payne, Wollacott and Egbo all go out on loan to Swindon, we sign 3 Accrington players to replace them
    14. We finish 13th again.
    15. My season ticket for 23/24 goes up another £50




    Crickey ,sounds like you could do with a few more better nights sleep!!
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    North Hykeham is a sub district of south Lincoln by the way.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,279
    Chunes said:
    To those saying they hope we don't get left behind, in our promotion season we lost the opening game to Sunderland and we couldn't even name a full bench. Just five of the available seven, those being Ajose, Sarr, AMB, Maloney (I don't even remember him) and Hackett-Fairchild.

    And we went on to get promoted.

    What's strange is that I've just been back through every season since then and I can't find a stronger, fuller squad than the one we've got now. (Find me another season where we've got players like MacGilvray, Payne, Kirk, McGrandles, Gilbey & Lavelle on the BENCH on day one). And yet this board is more overwhelmingly negative than it's ever been. I can only put it down to some kind of collective emotional trauma we've all experienced because objectively we are better placed than we have been in the past five years, including the season we got promoted. 

    The season won't live or die based on whether we do our final business on deadline day or not, we are already further ahead than we've been in a long time.
    I think it's also a case of looking at the squad as a whole and thinking they aren't up to much. Sure having honest and experienced pros knocking around the squad is better than having a bunch of kids, but none of them are exciting players, people who look a level above the league we're in, and that's what feels different compared to the promotion seasons IMO
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,382
    sam3110 said:
    Chunes said:
    To those saying they hope we don't get left behind, in our promotion season we lost the opening game to Sunderland and we couldn't even name a full bench. Just five of the available seven, those being Ajose, Sarr, AMB, Maloney (I don't even remember him) and Hackett-Fairchild.

    And we went on to get promoted.

    What's strange is that I've just been back through every season since then and I can't find a stronger, fuller squad than the one we've got now. (Find me another season where we've got players like MacGilvray, Payne, Kirk, McGrandles, Gilbey & Lavelle on the BENCH on day one). And yet this board is more overwhelmingly negative than it's ever been. I can only put it down to some kind of collective emotional trauma we've all experienced because objectively we are better placed than we have been in the past five years, including the season we got promoted. 

    The season won't live or die based on whether we do our final business on deadline day or not, we are already further ahead than we've been in a long time.
    I think it's also a case of looking at the squad as a whole and thinking they aren't up to much. Sure having honest and experienced pros knocking around the squad is better than having a bunch of kids, but none of them are exciting players, people who look a level above the league we're in, and that's what feels different compared to the promotion seasons IMO
    Many of the players who were seen as “too good for League 1” became more highly rated as the season went on.

    I remember players like Aribo and Bielik being inconsistent early on. Bielik was even subbed off at half time in one game after he kept giving the ball away and Aribo wasn’t the goal threat he became.

    We don’t have players who obviously stand out like they did but it’s too early to be sure no one will progress to that point. Late signings coming in could add real quality too as Yann, Bielik and Cullen did.
  • North Hykeham is a sub district of south Lincoln by the way.
    But it's in South Kesteven.