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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Jac_52
    Jac_52 Posts: 1,460
    I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup. 
    A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.
    A decent striker will look at Stockley and think “you should be in midfield mate”.

    Anyone who looks at Stockley and thinks that should be classed as criminally insane.

    Of anyone I think DJ would actually make a good CM. Could be a poor man's Aribo and still be pretty good I reckon.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,624
    I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup. 
    A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.
    A decent striker will look at Stockley and think “you should be in midfield mate”.
    A decent striker will look at Stockley & watch our matches and think " you should be in defence mate". 
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    I cant see how they will attract a decent striker into the building if they aren't playing most weeks, and i cant see us paying top dollar for a backup. 
    A decent striker will look at Stockley, with his back problems last season and without the sort of goal record which makes him undroppable, and Aneke who only seems suited to being a supersub, and fancy their chances.
    A decent striker will look at Stockley and think “you should be in midfield mate”.
    A decent striker will look at Stockley & watch our matches and think " you should be in defence mate". 
    If Stockley plays in defence, who is going to score all the goals.
    Gotta keep your eye on the ball golfie. 😉
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Stockley should play as Goalie... Is that the full set?
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Chunes said:
    Thanks for the memories, Ben. The painful, awful memories.

    I think we should henceforth refer to that Pratley-Watson midfield pairing as 'The Partnership that shall not be Named.' Like Voldemort.
    Outrageously harsh on Pratters that. One of the best midfielders we’ve had in the last 15 years 
    Thought this reply was a joke at first, some are easily pleased. I would put Pratley in the bottom half…and the comment got 23 likes 🤣
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Redhenry said:
    Chunes said:
    Thanks for the memories, Ben. The painful, awful memories.

    I think we should henceforth refer to that Pratley-Watson midfield pairing as 'The Partnership that shall not be Named.' Like Voldemort.
    Outrageously harsh on Pratters that. One of the best midfielders we’ve had in the last 15 years 
    Thought this reply was a joke at first, some are easily pleased. I would put Pratley in the bottom half…and the comment got 23 likes 🤣
    That would go back to, what, the 2008/09 season? Some sad act will have to work out all the midfielders we've had in that 15 year period and then work out if he's bottom half or not. That sad act will be me. See you later.
  • Redhenry said:
    Chunes said:
    Thanks for the memories, Ben. The painful, awful memories.

    I think we should henceforth refer to that Pratley-Watson midfield pairing as 'The Partnership that shall not be Named.' Like Voldemort.
    Outrageously harsh on Pratters that. One of the best midfielders we’ve had in the last 15 years 
    Thought this reply was a joke at first, some are easily pleased. I would put Pratley in the bottom half…and the comment got 23 likes 🤣
    That would go back to, what, the 2008/09 season? Some sad act will have to work out all the midfielders we've had in that 15 year period and then work out if he's bottom half or not. That sad act will be me. See you later.
    I was hoping someone would do this. Looking forward to the results. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Anyone putting Yoni Buyens lower will get a poke in the eye 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,314
    Jordan Cousins is a good over/under. Same virtues and vices as Pratley except younger and quicker. I'd actually put Pratley above him though, he was SO crap on the ball
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  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,342
    Pratley was obviously past his best when he joined us but decent enough at our level. The sort of player skilled in the dark arts that you need. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    The term “nouse” is the key for players like Pratley.
    his brain was mostly excellent in those dark arts.  Someone who knew when to foul and how much to foul.  

    Some players just foul when s player gets away but it’s the ones who do it when they need to that are particularly eye catching for me - the ones who see the impending danger - not just pissed off for getting turned over
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,219
    Agree with other posts, Pratley's football brain was key for us. Still believe we wouldn't have won the play off semi 2nd leg without him. 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    Oggy Red said:
    Pratley was obviously past his best when he joined us but decent enough at our level. The sort of player skilled in the dark arts that you need. 
    Pratley was already 33 when he joined us from Bolton; and had played most of his football in the Championship plus a few seasons in the Prem.

    And then you also need to consider what Bowyer said at the time of signing Pratley ....... that he thought the team were a bit of a soft touch and he needed a ball winner in midfield, a physical presence to add bite and experience. And had a reputation for being a leader both on and off the pitch.

    We got exactly what it said on the tin.


    I still think he could have 'done a job for us' at certain points last season although Dobson has proved an able replacement.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Hard to be so dismissive of Pratley as he got us through the Doncaster semi final and a big contribution in the final v Sunderland. As he had energy and leadership, (alongside a dodgy transfer policy), we over relied on him being our "general" for too long.
  • It's too easy to disregard Pratley's presence and leadership qualities.
    When the ball playing snowflakes go missing, or when some oaf scores an own goal in the first few minutes of a play off final, you need someone with balls to step up to the plate.
    And fwiw he was a tidy footballer at his best.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Pratley was a very good player and leader for us but he left a season ago and he's not coming back (as a player anyway) so no need to discuss on this rumours thread.

    Now, back to potential signings.

    Simpson?  Yes, please but think it will go to the wire as we wait for Ipswich to blink on the price.

    Sarr? He's 29 now and isn't a left back but he's available on a free.  Reading struggling to sign him so maybe there is a chance for us to nick him IF he drops his wage demands.

    More likely that the LCH and LB will be one player, not two, and someone the vast majority of us, me included, haven't heard of.
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Agree with other posts, Pratley's football brain was key for us. Still believe we wouldn't have won the play off semi 2nd leg without him. 
    That'd depend on who would have replaced him. But you could be right.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,477
    I never groaned when I saw his name on the team sheet….was a steady enough player who served us well.
    No complaints from me.
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  • Charwill
    Charwill Posts: 172
    It won’t be sarr as his wage demands will be far too high
    he was earning £15k a week at Huddersfield, I know this to be true as a guy I know knew him well
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Charwill said:
    It won’t be sarr as his wage demands will be far too high
    he was earning £15k a week at Huddersfield, I know this to be true as a guy I know knew him well
    He only stayed with us so long because he wages were so high 
  • Charwill
    Charwill Posts: 172
    I would imagine Stockley is our highest earner on circa £5k a week so sarr won’t be coming!
  • Pratley was an asset to our squad imo, I hold him in high estimation.
    We know what he was good at but in addition he filled in at CB when we we’re desperately short handed in the second half of the season. I actually think he was over used (for his age) in that period playing every game, affecting his form somewhat during the last few games of the season.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,167
    Redhenry said:
    Chunes said:
    Thanks for the memories, Ben. The painful, awful memories.

    I think we should henceforth refer to that Pratley-Watson midfield pairing as 'The Partnership that shall not be Named.' Like Voldemort.
    Outrageously harsh on Pratters that. One of the best midfielders we’ve had in the last 15 years 
    Thought this reply was a joke at first, some are easily pleased. I would put Pratley in the bottom half…and the comment got 23 likes 🤣
    That would go back to, what, the 2008/09 season? Some sad act will have to work out all the midfielders we've had in that 15 year period and then work out if he's bottom half or not. That sad act will be me. See you later.
    Sigh. https://forum.charltonlife.com/discussion/94538/where-does-darren-pratley-rank-in-the-last-15-years#latest

  • Charwill said:
    I would imagine Stockley is our highest earner on circa £5k a week so sarr won’t be coming!
    Fun fact, Paul Mullin’s new deal at national league Wrexham would make him our highest earner.

    that’s not to say we pay low wages but just shows how ridiculous their financial weight is at that level.
  • Charwill
    Charwill Posts: 172
    Mullins who can blame him! Was at Cambridge and we I think offered him a two year deal on 5k a week
    he is from Liverpool so Wrexham he can commute gave him a 3 year deal at believed to be 9k a week!
    we would do the same given his situation 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Mullin hardly chose playing in the NL instead of L1 out of love for Wrexham!
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Interesting but can’t see us signing him, too similar to Stockley, not nippy enough.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Though Garner did say we were close to two signings.