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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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I don’t know. I’m not a scout. I think most strikers at league one level are going to be inconsistent and represent a risk.Covered End said:
Which strikers do you think were better and will sign for us?FishCostaFortune said:
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this seasonCovered End said:
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.FishCostaFortune said:
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?MuttleyCAFC said:
He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.Scoham said:Interesting but can’t see us signing him, too similar to Stockley, not nippy enough.
If I’m the owner, of a loss making business, I’m sure as hell not spending my money on a 28 year old who for all intense purposes has had one good season, and who flops, you’ve got no chance of making any of your money back.
Id much rather be spending that on someone younger who can develop, and if they do have a poor season for you (*cough* Kirk *cough*), there’s a chance you can recoup some of your outlay.
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If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
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The risk is what makes it doable for us financially. The reward is that he has attributes we are crying out for.0
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The other thing I feel itchy on Stockton, is he’s never really played outside the North West, and your expecting him to settle in London. Gets all a bit Andy Gray for me18
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This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.Rothko said:If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back0 -
The issue with McKirdy is he’s more of a wide player, it wouldn’t really solve the issue of Stockley not suiting the system.LargeAddick said:
This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.Rothko said:If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back7 -
Last time I looked we were in the lower leagues!2
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Tyreece Simpson is the one I have my eye on. Problem is, I think Ipswich won’t want to let him go to a team in their league.8
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Pigott and Fraser? If they don’t sell him he’ll walk away next summer for minimal compensation.Callumcafc said:Tyreece Simpson is the one I have my eye on. Problem is, I think Ipswich won’t want to let him go to a team in their league.2 -
I can only go by what I’ve read and from the highlights from the Swindon games I have seen. So for all I know he could be Davison level (which is not an insult btw).Callumcafc said:Tyreece Simpson is the one I have my eye on. Problem is, I think Ipswich won’t want to let him go to a team in their league.
But for me he offers far less of a risk both in terms of ability and financial then Stockton would.0 - Sponsored links:
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McKirdy had his "breakthrough" season in L2, there's no guarantee he can step up and be as dangerous. That makes him MORE of a risk than Stockton, who not only did it in L1, he did it in a poor L1 team.2
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Simple solution, they sell him to Swindon then we loan him and sign permanently in January.....Callumcafc said:Tyreece Simpson is the one I have my eye on. Problem is, I think Ipswich won’t want to let him go to a team in their league.3 -
I would agree that his NW roots may be an issue.Rothko said:The other thing I feel itchy on Stockton, is he’s never really played outside the North West, and your expecting him to settle in London. Gets all a bit Andy Gray for me1 -
I’d really like McKirdy but like @Callumcafc I’d like Tyreece Simpson too. I’d see Simpson as the priority but both would improve us.Scoham said:
The issue with McKirdy is he’s more of a wide player, it wouldn’t really solve the issue of Stockley not suiting the system.LargeAddick said:
This with knobs on. Would suit the system far better too. I’m far from convinced by Stockton and do worry in him being a one season wonder especially as he’s spent so long in the lower leagues. I’d rather take a punt on McKirdy if Garner wanted him for the reasons above unless we can get someone better.Rothko said:If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back1 -
Stockton for me. As people mentioned he was a terror at the Valley last season and could really add something to this team.
Technically good, last couple of seasons he has had a decent goal scoring record in this league in an average team..the way we are playing and how we are set up, he could do really well.3 -
Definitely, there's no guarantees but if he's available for £250K I'd take the gamble without doubt.FishCostaFortune said:
I don’t know. I’m not a scout. I think most strikers at league one level are going to be inconsistent and represent a risk.Covered End said:
Which strikers do you think were better and will sign for us?FishCostaFortune said:
I mean if the best striker of the season at the valley last year is someone who scored one goal and didn’t get a look in during the second half, then we should have nothing to worry about at all this seasonCovered End said:
The fact that he looked the best striker at The Valley last season, scored 20+ goals, including at least 2 from the half way line.FishCostaFortune said:
What makes you think that until the last two seasons, a player who had never scored over 5 goals in a season, and only over 15 once will score 20 plus goals for us?MuttleyCAFC said:
He'll get 20plus goals for us and we are currently about that number short within the squad. It is a no brainer for me.Scoham said:Interesting but can’t see us signing him, too similar to Stockley, not nippy enough.
If I’m the owner, of a loss making business, I’m sure as hell not spending my money on a 28 year old who for all intense purposes has had one good season, and who flops, you’ve got no chance of making any of your money back.
Id much rather be spending that on someone younger who can develop, and if they do have a poor season for you (*cough* Kirk *cough*), there’s a chance you can recoup some of your outlay.
Are you willing to take the risk on Stockton?
I do watch all the highlights every week and all the live games.0 -
I'd definitely try for McKirdy and sell Kirk.Rothko said:If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back
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I think the McKirdy boat has sailedCovered End said:
I'd definitely try for McKirdy and sell Kirk.Rothko said:If I was taking a risk on a hot season last year, it’s McKirdy, knows the manager, has a decent pedigree from Villa, and can finish. If he flops, you might get your money back0 -
ChristSix-a-bag-of-nuts said:It's too easy to disregard Pratley's presence and leadership qualities.
When the ball playing snowflakes go missing, or when some oaf scores an own goal in the first few minutes of a play off final, you need someone with balls to step up to the plate.
And fwiw he was a tidy footballer at his best.1 -
If Rotherham are interested, I would imagine he would go there. It would be a no-brainier for the lad. They are a championship side who despatched Reading 4-0 today, he could stay in the north of the country, and no doubt Rotherham could and would beat us on a salary package.
It’s difficult to come up with any pros why he might come to us, sadly only cons.Our football this year may be much easier on the eye, but the sad truth is that there are several other teams who are superior to us in most of the departments that matter.1 - Sponsored links:
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Have we actually been linked with Simpson?2
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I’d rather Simpson over Stockton. Would take either at the point though.1
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Speculated on fan sites but no firm links in the media from what I can remember.Richard J said:Have we actually been linked with Simpson?
https://www.twtd.co.uk/ipswich-town-news/42823/huddersfield-and-boro-linked-with-simpson
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I don’t believe we are in for Stockton.
He’s the same type as Stockley.
Not sure there’s much credibility to the story when we haven’t paid a fee for any of our players.
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After 2 first team friendlies against league teams, 3 league games and 1 cup game we have scored 4 goals from open play, and one of them from the youth team. Those of us who have been saying for several months that there are not enough goals in this squad have now been publicly joined by Curbs and Brownie.
All down to the owner now to make a season of it.4 -
And one good signing could do that.Southbank said:After 2 first team friendlies against league teams, 3 league games and 1 cup game we have scored 4 goals from open play, and one of them from the youth team. Those of us who have been saying for several months that there are not enough goals in this squad have now been publicly joined by Curbs and Brownie.
All down to the owner now to make a season of it.0 -
Would have to be a proven goalscorer in the Lee Gregory mode then, not some unproven loanee from the Prem.MuttleyCAFC said:
And one good signing could do that.Southbank said:After 2 first team friendlies against league teams, 3 league games and 1 cup game we have scored 4 goals from open play, and one of them from the youth team. Those of us who have been saying for several months that there are not enough goals in this squad have now been publicly joined by Curbs and Brownie.
All down to the owner now to make a season of it.0 -
Would have to be somebody or sombodies who meets the shortfall. Proven or unproven. Ideally proven but that won't be easy but we need to try to sort this issue out as it is very likely to cost us and as people have said, there are a lot of positives around how we are playing to the point that doing nothing would almost be criminal.0
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