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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Not the same situation, but Everton remind me slightly of us at the moment in that they've brought in several decent players in other positions, but not up front yet, which is their biggest weaknessSouthbank said:After 2 first team friendlies against league teams, 3 league games and 1 cup game we have scored 4 goals from open play, and one of them from the youth team. Those of us who have been saying for several months that there are not enough goals in this squad have now been publicly joined by Curbs and Brownie.
All down to the owner now to make a season of it.0 -
On the subject of Everton i see Tom Cannon who we've been linked with scored again for their U21s last night.0
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PWR - From what I’ve heard, Stockton has gone to Fleetwood3
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It may prove to be a great signing but as someone else posted earlier there's got to be a reason the top clubs aren't looking to sign him. If he was as good as this forum seems to think he is then the likes of Ipswich, Derby and Sheff Weds would've been after him.J BLOCK said:PWR - From what I’ve heard, Stockton has gone to Fleetwood
Is Morecambe to Fleetwood even a step up?9 -
Fleetwood and Morecambe aren’t likely to be playing on the deck!!Chris_from_Sidcup said:
It may prove to be a great signing but as someone else posted earlier there's got to be a reason the top clubs aren't looking to sign him. If he was as good as this forum seems to think he is then the likes of Ipswich, Derby and Sheff Weds would've been after him.J BLOCK said:PWR - From what I’ve heard, Stockton has gone to Fleetwood
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Those certainly seem to be the rumours.J BLOCK said:PWR - From what I’ve heard, Stockton has gone to Fleetwood
Derek Adams said in his post match interview that Stockton called up morning of the game yesterday saying he was sick and unable to play.
Be a bit weird to go all Lyle Taylor for a move to Fleetwood though.1 -
Think Kirk will be dropped for JRS on Tuesday, or if not, replaced by him on 60 mins. After that he’ll be his backup. I’d be fine with him coming on to face tiring defenders from time to time.Athletico Charlton said:
Ridiculously harsh on Stockley. System may not suit him but he has given 100% every game he has played for us and we would have quote possibly dropped to L2 without him last season.cazo said:Stockley and Kirk can fuck right off asap because thay bring fuck all to this team stockley was bad won fuck all
Tend to agree that Kirk is a luxury player who is not good enough to be one.Simpson or Stockton would be an upgrade on Stockley.2 -
It is obvious we need a striker,but they dont grow on trees,the Mendoncas,Hales,Bents of this world are hard to find,a rare breed.you wont get an established one for our budget,so a chance has to be taken somewhere,dont ask me who,it could be a kid from the premier or an unknown from non league(Jamie Vardy) prime example,or dare I say a Lyle Taylor doing the rounds in the lower league.I am not going to have a go at Stockley,but we loads of crosses yesterday which he was no where near,they had one and scored.Stockley has to spend more time at the back of the area running on to crosses,not trying to head them from a standing position.(Watch the best,Shearer,Ronaldo).1
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Don't think it is as simple as 'get a new striker'. The biggest problem I saw yesterday was our inability to get numbers in the box in good positions. CBT did well on this but couldn't finish, but at least he was there, the rest will come with confidence. Kirk was probably the biggest culprit - as the wide man in the 5 he should be the one racing in when the ball is coming in on the right. Morgan and Fraser should also be taking it in turns to get to the edge of the box to pick up any loose ball that results from a cross. Stockley and the incoming wide man should also be switching between near and far post to give the defenders something to think about. Too often Stockley was coming near/central making him easier to mark.
I think BG has done really well in changing the general style of play but it still needs a lot of work in the final third mobillty (not just Stockley). He may be tempted to try a false 9 to draw central defenders but who of the current squad can play that role (Payne, JRS?). I don't think a Stockton type is the answer or Leaburn (but he does have more mobility and would learn quicker). A fit Aneke has the skills but we all know the problem there.
Will be interesting to see what Garner does on Tuesday and would expect to see a few changes - some players will not have recovered sufficiently from Saturday (e.g. Fraser) and two performances were unacceptable for differing reasons (Kirk and Stockley).2 - Sponsored links:
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Garner’s way of playing does as pointed out, needs midfielders to get into the box, and load it up, Fraser isn’t doing that, so suspect that’s where a Payne comes in and does that job1
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Obsessedaddick1956 said:We still need an attack....Portsmouth bought Colby Bishop who moved as far south as one can and still play league football. 4 games.....4 goals....
Says it all. What exactly does Steve en an Co see when it comes to goal scoring players ?
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Several times in the first half Stockley made good near paper runs that drew feeders with him and left the far post exposed. Good crosses were then sent to the far post no one was attacking that area. Kirk the biggest culprit, for me, but midfielders need to get in there two. Payne in for Fraser and RakSaki in for Kirk will hopefully help but we’ll have to wait and see.3
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I tend to agree Stockley isn’t naturally suited to this style of play, but it is a completely new style of play for us.We’ve improved with every performance so far and he has had two excellent chances I’d have expected him to take. He needs some support in the shape of another striker coming in because he can’t do that job Saturday/Tuesday every week, but don’t write his season off just yet. He’s a really good league one player with an excellent attitude and a willingness to learn.The club know I am sure that we need another one in upfront. And I am sure they’ll get the right person for the team. 👍2
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Weirdoaddick1956 said:We still need an attack....Portsmouth bought Colby Bishop who moved as far south as one can and still play league football. 4 games.....4 goals....
Says it all. What exactly does Steve en an Co see when it comes to goal scoring players ?
Answer.....A&Eeke4 -
Bishop played up front with a partner in a 4-4-2, could he do it in a 4-3-3? Stockley would score goals in that set up.addick1956 said:We still need an attack....Portsmouth bought Colby Bishop who moved as far south as one can and still play league football. 4 games.....4 goals....
Says it all. What exactly does Steve en an Co see when it comes to goal scoring players ?
Answer.....A&Eeke0 -
Nixon linking Kirk with a return to Blackpool. Appleton recently said they want 2 or 3 more signings.1
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Corbyn could still do a job at that level.Scoham said:0 -
How did Bobby Ball do?Chris_from_Sidcup said:On the subject of Everton i see Tom Cannon who we've been linked with scored again for their U21s last night.0 -
I think we have improved in that respect but yesterday it was hot and our players seemed to hit a wall. As people have observed, their subs were the difference. If we want to play a high pressing game, I would expect us to be as fit as any team though! And the fact that CBT missed that great chance in the first half basically through a lack of composure helped a lot. He is such a weapon, can't somebody do some work with him? I have commented before, the final part of his game is severely lacking. If we haven't got anybody to do it, can't we bring somebody in to help him?charente addick said:Don't think it is as simple as 'get a new striker'. The biggest problem I saw yesterday was our inability to get numbers in the box in good positions. CBT did well on this but couldn't finish, but at least he was there, the rest will come with confidence. Kirk was probably the biggest culprit - as the wide man in the 5 he should be the one racing in when the ball is coming in on the right. Morgan and Fraser should also be taking it in turns to get to the edge of the box to pick up any loose ball that results from a cross. Stockley and the incoming wide man should also be switching between near and far post to give the defenders something to think about. Too often Stockley was coming near/central making him easier to mark.
I think BG has done really well in changing the general style of play but it still needs a lot of work in the final third mobillty (not just Stockley). He may be tempted to try a false 9 to draw central defenders but who of the current squad can play that role (Payne, JRS?). I don't think a Stockton type is the answer or Leaburn (but he does have more mobility and would learn quicker). A fit Aneke has the skills but we all know the problem there.
Will be interesting to see what Garner does on Tuesday and would expect to see a few changes - some players will not have recovered sufficiently from Saturday (e.g. Fraser) and two performances were unacceptable for differing reasons (Kirk and Stockley).0 - Sponsored links:
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swallow the hubris and anger and try to get Lyle Taylor back on loan .. he knows the club and more importantly knows how to score goals7
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if we're offered cash money for Kirk i suggest we take it and run9
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Not a chance, he called us a clown club on insta a while back, don’t want that tosser anywhere near the club.Lincsaddick said:swallow the hubris and anger and try to get Lyle Taylor back on loan .. he knows the club and more importantly knows how to score goals9 -
I’d take nothing but money for Kirk, Blackpool can do one if they come in with a loan offer. Cash or nothing.6
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Gave Kirk the benefit of the doubt but there’s nothing I’ve seen thus far in pre season or now the season has started that makes me think he’ll be a success. If we can recoup our money I’ll take it.4
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Yep. Take it & offer the same amount to Swindon for McKirdy. Definitely need more goal scorers in our front 3. JRS will help with that but at his age we can’t rely on him to be the only winger that gets into double figures.Leuth said:if we're offered cash money for Kirk i suggest we take it and run0 -
NOT a rumour concerning us .. BUT ..
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
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Gilbey linked with Pompey according to their local paper.1
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He's nowhere near proven, he's had one decent season and that's come pretty late in his career.Lincsaddick said:NOT a rumour concerning us .. BUT ..
according to the FFL highlights prog, Cole Stockton might be moving down the coast a few miles to Fleetwood, hardly a glamour move .. he can't be on sale for a lot if Fleetwood are the buyers .. last season might have been an 'Ajose one off', but surely we should be in the chase for a proven(ish) L1 striker ?
If the likes of Fleetwood are the favourites, that suggests that Ipswich, Derby etc and other "big" clubs don't see him as worth the gamble, not just us.2
