JFC, Gilbey, Kirk and McG leaving would be a good thing.
Replace with a CB, LB, Striker, GK and another winger.
One player more than currently which is no issue with squad size.
Obviously won't happen but it would be great if it did.
Other than Kirk I can’t see there being a huge queue of clubs looking to sign those players, and he’s the one I’d least like to lose from those. And even if there is interest in the other 3, they will probably only be loans or transfers where we are still paying some of their wages. So a rebuild like that is unlikely. Will probably be 2 out 2 in I reckon
As I thought yesterday - us not buying a forward to replace Washington cost us a victory. That is on TS.
Why are people so wanting to hate this man, who as I can see it, is trying to run this club so that we never have to go through what we went through just before he arrived again.
He isn’t perfect but continuous blaming and hating on him must get so depressing for people.
They’ve said they have to balance the books. We’re looking so much better already than last year.
I certainly don’t hate him. Am grateful to him for saving the club. But I suspect if he wants to balance the books, the team will not be successful (my definition of success being promotion) any time soon.
Apparently he wants to reduce annual losses by £4M, £1M through cost efficiencies and £2-3M through increased revenue. Roughly speaking that equates to ~ another £100K per game, say another 4-5,000 spectators per game. Great that the style of play appears more attractive than last season but results is what will help improve gates and maybe that requires more investment on additional striking options than TS is willing to pay.
JFC, Gilbey, Kirk and McG leaving would be a good thing.
Replace with a CB, LB, Striker, GK and another winger.
One player more than currently which is no issue with squad size.
Obviously won't happen but it would be great if it did.
If we got all those players in we would probably loan out Clayden as well.
I am not sure why people are so keen on MacGillivray going, I get that people think he might want to go. From a purely football point of view would anyone we would be likley to get in as a replacement be better?
If JFC AND Gilbey both go we would probably need another center mid as well?
Personally I think it's too late to add 5 or 6 players to the squad. It's unlikely they would have played games so would be behind. How do you then get those 5, McGrandels, Mandela and JRS, not to even mention Aneke, up to speed now the season has started?
That's nearly half your squad it's too many IMO.
A striker, a center back ASAP and try and ship one of the midfielders out, if you can. That would still give you room for maneuver if someone suddenly became available at the last minute. Then look at freshening it up a bit in January.
As I thought yesterday - us not buying a forward to replace Washington cost us a victory. That is on TS.
Why are people so wanting to hate this man, who as I can see it, is trying to run this club so that we never have to go through what we went through just before he arrived again.
He isn’t perfect but continuous blaming and hating on him must get so depressing for people.
They’ve said they have to balance the books. We’re looking so much better already than last year.
Although I agree with you, being better than last season is a pretty low bar to compare against.
I'm fearing that for want of a decent striker a top 6 spot could be lost. Oh well.....
Doesn't really matter how low the bar is, it is an improvement on last season, can't do any better than that,..can you, and the window still has some time to go, so regarding all this "all hope is lost stuff" save it for then and if we have not added strength to the front line, you will no doubt end up with some support for your pessimism...
As I thought yesterday - us not buying a forward to replace Washington cost us a victory. That is on TS.
Why are people so wanting to hate this man, who as I can see it, is trying to run this club so that we never have to go through what we went through just before he arrived again.
He isn’t perfect but continuous blaming and hating on him must get so depressing for people.
They’ve said they have to balance the books. We’re looking so much better already than last year.
I would call TS my straw. I don't hate him and I think a case could be made that he is the best owner we have had in years, but look at what we have had. I am a camel and he is the straw that has broken my back. Others may have been haystacks, but I have been watching us in this shit league too long and that isn't Sandgaards fault although it is on him to get us out of it and I don't think he will. I want him to but I can't lie or convince myself otherwise.
I won't protest and I will hope something changes but I am a bit depressed about it to be honest and because he is the straw, my patience levels are close to zero.
Just focus on the fact than we’re quite a bit better than we were last season.
As I thought yesterday - us not buying a forward to replace Washington cost us a victory. That is on TS.
Why are people so wanting to hate this man, who as I can see it, is trying to run this club so that we never have to go through what we went through just before he arrived again.
He isn’t perfect but continuous blaming and hating on him must get so depressing for people.
They’ve said they have to balance the books. We’re looking so much better already than last year.
I would call TS my straw. I don't hate him and I think a case could be made that he is the best owner we have had in years, but look at what we have had. I am a camel and he is the straw that has broken my back. Others may have been haystacks, but I have been watching us in this shit league too long and that isn't Sandgaards fault although it is on him to get us out of it and I don't think he will. I want him to but I can't lie or convince myself otherwise.
I won't protest and I will hope something changes but I am a bit depressed about it to be honest and because he is the straw, my patience levels are close to zero.
Should probably take a break if the club's making you depressed. You seem like you're getting all Bowyer-y again and that's surely a sign to give yourself some time off
That with all due respect is your issue rather than mine. I have said we can disagree with how a few times but I'll say it once more in case it takes a while to permiate. I think Cole Stockton would be a potential solution but the issue is bringing more goals in the team however that is best done, which I have said - please read before you come to conclusions if that is possible. I have a view of a solution and the problem. We can disagree on the soloution but ought to agree on the problem unless we have rose tinted specs.
I am looking at it all in the round and trying to find evidence it will come good, but I see somebody who knows not a lot, employing those that suck up to him and making poor decisions. Yes he not a crook, yes he is spendinging his money but he is not spending it wisely IMO. Playing his song at the start of last season was crass, especially as the squad was clearly wanting. Behind the scenes it is well reported that it is chaos from multiple sources. I could like that song if it was played after every victory.
This beer thing is the latest load of crap. He is so out of his depth IMO that I can't see him ever being a success here and we should remember that we will never be sustainable as a League One club so it is important we get out of it. I'm not going to protest, just lose my enthusiasm and excitment for the club I have loved all my life as a safety valve for my hapiness, because I think the owner might be a plonker. An honest plonker but a plonker all the same.
If you want to disagree, fine but look where that is coming from. I don't want Sandgaard to be a plonker. I'd like him to run the club well with all my heart. I just think he will ultimately damage us because of the sort of person he is.
Because Roland still owns the Valley and TG the lack of assets means we will only attract crooks or not very savvy people like TS as owners. I’m afraid TS is the best we’ll get until Roland releases his disastrous grip on the club. I count ourselves fortunate we have him.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
And no-one is questioning that or your right to have those opinions. Merely saying that there are probably better, healthier options available to you right now because you don't seem to be in a very good place right now.
Speaking as someone who has never met you in person and wouldn't know if I saw you in the street, but if you were my friend or even just someone I knew I'd be recommending the same thing.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
That is an unjust comment buddy. You yourself express constant criticism but I dont think you get shutdown as you say. The point everyone was making is there is absolutely no point in keep saying literally every 5 minutes on various different threads that we need a striker. Nobody disagrees with that statement from what I have seen
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
What discussion has been ‘shut down’ exactly?
None. ‘Shouted down’ would have been a better phrase.
But then if Thomas’s most loyal defenders are going to deploy the ‘careful mate, you can’t say anything positive these days’ bollocks why can’t I join in.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
What discussion has been ‘shut down’ exactly?
None. ‘Shouted down’ would have been a better phrase.
But then if Thomas’s most loyal defenders are going to deploy the ‘careful mate, you can’t say anything positive these days’ bollocks why can’t I join in.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
What discussion has been ‘shut down’ exactly?
None. ‘Shouted down’ would have been a better phrase.
But then if Thomas’s most loyal defenders are going to deploy the ‘careful mate, you can’t say anything positive these days’ bollocks why can’t I join in.
Haha ok shouted down then if that what's u want to call it. It still doesnt happen. As I just said you yourself only ever say negative stuff and never comment on the positive stuff but nobody "shouts you down" do they ?
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
Absolutely fair comment, as were your earlier ones. Unfortunately there are now so many posters on here who see any expression of doubt about TS as an act of treason that discussion just gets shut down.
What discussion has been ‘shut down’ exactly?
None. ‘Shouted down’ would have been a better phrase.
But then if Thomas’s most loyal defenders are going to deploy the ‘careful mate, you can’t say anything positive these days’ bollocks why can’t I join in.
Haha ok shouted down then if that what's u want to call it. It still doesnt happen. As I just said you yourself only ever say negative stuff and never comment on the positive stuff but nobody "shouts you down" do they ?
Think you’re getting me confused with someone else.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
And no-one is questioning that or your right to have those opinions. Merely saying that there are probably better, healthier options available to you right now because you don't seem to be in a very good place right now.
Speaking as someone who has never met you in person and wouldn't know if I saw you in the street, but if you were my friend or even just someone I knew I'd be recommending the same thing.
I am not depressed at all. I have a good life. I am specifically depressed about the state of my football club.
But surely with JFC being such a great player clubs will be falling over themselves to buy him ? Oh wait ! 🙄
No one that can afford will want him until he proves he is fully recovered from his injury. Quite rightly, can you imagine if we signed a player that had started 1 league game in 14 months?
How we thought we could sell him under those conditions is beyond me.
Oh I don't know. Clubs do occasionally buy injury prone players. Not that we've done that recently.
Of course I did call out, admittedly different issues, with Southall when a lot of you lot were still cheering him and blowing smoke up his arse. I love Charlton like the rest of you and have my opinions right or wrong.
And no-one is questioning that or your right to have those opinions. Merely saying that there are probably better, healthier options available to you right now because you don't seem to be in a very good place right now.
Speaking as someone who has never met you in person and wouldn't know if I saw you in the street, but if you were my friend or even just someone I knew I'd be recommending the same thing.
I am not depressed at all. I have a good life. I am specifically depressed about the state of my football club.
Well maybe so. As I say I don't know yu personally but given you have called the club "a safety valve for your happiness" and now it's not I'd still recommend you find something else act as that valve.
If you do run into a bad patch and you have no release then things can go very badly very quickly. That much I know from experience.
I'm certainly not judging you and by all means tell me to **** right off if you like. But I feel obligated to mention that in the grand scheme of things Charlton really don't matter that much, sad to say.
Not true. We all have lives outside of supporting our club but nothing wrong with being greedy and wanting the best on that side too.
I agree Charlton doesn't matter above the important things but I think the owner is clueless and that seems to not be an acceptable view for some on here. Believe me I am probably happier than most. Retired, financially secure, happily married, son doing well at Uni. I don't need pyschiatric advice which amounts to laying off Sandgaard's many faults and the risks I think it poses for our club in the longer term.
If I could be bullied I think that is going on here but I don't give a shit about some poster's views so it isn't possible to shout me down for talking as I see it because you don't want it to be true, whilst there are of course many I respect even when we disagree.
Not true. We all have lives outside of supporting our club but nothing wrong with being greedy and wanting the best on that side too.
I agree Charlton doesn't matter above the important things but I think the owner is clueless and that seems to not be an acceptable view for some on here. Believe me I am probably happier than most. Retired, financially secure, happily married, son doing well at Uni. I don't need pyschiatric advice which amounts to laying off Sandgaard's many faults and the risks I think it poses for our club in the longer term.
If I could be bullied I think that is going on here but I don't give a shit about some poster's views so it isn't possible to shout me down for talking as I see it because you don't want it to be true, whilst there are of course many I respect even when we disagree.
Like you and everyone else on here mate we all love the club and you like everyone else are deserving your opinion. But I honestly dont get the so anti TS thing. Yes he is a bit of a crackpot but in ownership terms imo he is streets ahead of what we have had for years! Surely you can see the change so far on the pitch ? We are trying to play attractive football with a gameplan, I havent seen that myself for ages. We all know we would like a few things done differently like a striker already through the door, a CEO in place to name but 2 but if both those things had happened we would be arguing that it's the wrong striker and the wrong CEO 😂 I'm in the support the club camp and that includes the owner he doesnt get everything right but I do think he wants the best for the club, how long since we have had an owner we could say that about?? Recruitment last year dire ! Recruitment tthiis year alot better ? He is learning and hopefully will get it right. For me I want to watch us play decent football if that means another year in league one building then fair enough ( I actually think we have a great chance this year ) my main priority this season was not to play the shite we had for the last 2
As I thought yesterday - us not buying a forward to replace Washington cost us a victory. That is on TS.
Why are people so wanting to hate this man, who as I can see it, is trying to run this club so that we never have to go through what we went through just before he arrived again.
He isn’t perfect but continuous blaming and hating on him must get so depressing for people.
They’ve said they have to balance the books. We’re looking so much better already than last year.
Although I agree with you, being better than last season is a pretty low bar to compare against.
I'm fearing that for want of a decent striker a top 6 spot could be lost. Oh well.....
Doesn't really matter how low the bar is, it is an improvement on last season, can't do any better than that,..can you, and the window still has some time to go, so regarding all this "all hope is lost stuff" save it for then and if we have not added strength to the front line, you will no doubt end up with some support for your pessimism...
Reading posts on here since 5pm yesterday I think there is a load of support for pessimism. But to me its not new, I've been saying it since June.
We let Washington go & havent seemed to look for a replacement. We then let Davison go on the basis that we have Leaburn waiting in the wings. 3 matches into the season & people are suddenly worried where the goals are going to come from. Not news to me. I even remarked on the preview thread that we are currently going into games with just 2 strikers & it would only take an injury or suspension to Stockley for Leaburn to be our one & only front man. Well be blowed - Stockley had to play on Saturday whilst " under the weather" because, surprise surprise, we really had no other choice.
I know I get a lot of stick on here & I take no pleasure out of saying this....I was right last season & I've been proved right again this season. A striker should have been our no 1 priority, esp once we let Washington go. Now people are saying that we must get one in before deadline day (18 days away). Don't you think the price will be higher now than it would have been in June ? Because of that TS wont be going out spending money on one. Hence we wont buy one & best we will do is a loanee on deadline day. And I bet you it wont be an experience pro with a history or scoring goals in this division. Can anyone tell me when the last time we brought in a striker on loan that scored more than a handful of goals ?
Just to put some balance to the anti TS comments, I think he has had a cracking summer.
If Carlsberg did owners it would be TS. We have got ourselves a 1st class manager who is getting his ideas across to a much younger and dynamic team of players and we are playing some very good football. The transfer window is still open and I am sure that Martin and Steve are pulling all the stops out to bring in one or two more players in before it shuts, and I am confident that we will bring in another striker that every Charlton supporter in the world believes we should. The best are always last in.
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Replace with a CB, LB, Striker, GK and another winger.
One player more than currently which is no issue with squad size.
Obviously won't happen but it would be great if it did.
I am not sure why people are so keen on MacGillivray going, I get that people think he might want to go. From a purely football point of view would anyone we would be likley to get in as a replacement be better?
If JFC AND Gilbey both go we would probably need another center mid as well?
Personally I think it's too late to add 5 or 6 players to the squad. It's unlikely they would have played games so would be behind. How do you then get those 5, McGrandels, Mandela and JRS, not to even mention Aneke, up to speed now the season has started?
That's nearly half your squad it's too many IMO.
A striker, a center back ASAP and try and ship one of the midfielders out, if you can. That would still give you room for maneuver if someone suddenly became available at the last minute. Then look at freshening it up a bit in January.
Speaking as someone who has never met you in person and wouldn't know if I saw you in the street, but if you were my friend or even just someone I knew I'd be recommending the same thing.
If you do run into a bad patch and you have no release then things can go very badly very quickly. That much I know from experience.
I'm certainly not judging you and by all means tell me to **** right off if you like. But I feel obligated to mention that in the grand scheme of things Charlton really don't matter that much, sad to say.
I agree Charlton doesn't matter above the important things but I think the owner is clueless and that seems to not be an acceptable view for some on here. Believe me I am probably happier than most. Retired, financially secure, happily married, son doing well at Uni. I don't need pyschiatric advice which amounts to laying off Sandgaard's many faults and the risks I think it poses for our club in the longer term.
If I could be bullied I think that is going on here but I don't give a shit about some poster's views so it isn't possible to shout me down for talking as I see it because you don't want it to be true, whilst there are of course many I respect even when we disagree.
If we don't go up this year then he loses another 8 million pounds or so, not me.
We all know we would like a few things done differently like a striker already through the door, a CEO in place to name but 2 but if both those things had happened we would be arguing that it's the wrong striker and the wrong CEO 😂
I'm in the support the club camp and that includes the owner he doesnt get everything right but I do think he wants the best for the club, how long since we have had an owner we could say that about??
Recruitment last year dire !
Recruitment tthiis year alot better ?
He is learning and hopefully will get it right.
For me I want to watch us play decent football if that means another year in league one building then fair enough ( I actually think we have a great chance this year ) my main priority this season was not to play the shite we had for the last 2
We let Washington go & havent seemed to look for a replacement. We then let Davison go on the basis that we have Leaburn waiting in the wings. 3 matches into the season & people are suddenly worried where the goals are going to come from. Not news to me. I even remarked on the preview thread that we are currently going into games with just 2 strikers & it would only take an injury or suspension to Stockley for Leaburn to be our one & only front man. Well be blowed - Stockley had to play on Saturday whilst " under the weather" because, surprise surprise, we really had no other choice.
I know I get a lot of stick on here & I take no pleasure out of saying this....I was right last season & I've been proved right again this season. A striker should have been our no 1 priority, esp once we let Washington go. Now people are saying that we must get one in before deadline day (18 days away). Don't you think the price will be higher now than it would have been in June ? Because of that TS wont be going out spending money on one. Hence we wont buy one & best we will do is a loanee on deadline day. And I bet you it wont be an experience pro with a history or scoring goals in this division. Can anyone tell me when the last time we brought in a striker on loan that scored more than a handful of goals ?
We have got ourselves a 1st class manager who is getting his ideas across to a much younger and dynamic team of players and we are playing some very good football.
The transfer window is still open and I am sure that Martin and Steve are pulling all the stops out to bring in one or two more players in before it shuts, and I am confident that we will bring in another striker that every Charlton supporter in the world believes we should.
The best are always last in.