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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • Mike
    Mike Posts: 6,166
    Seems pretty legit to me, when will this circus end :(
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Isn't Sandgaard's wife a doctor. Wouldn't she be better off curing people and let somebody who understands football and its administration have a go?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,231
    It’s an interesting read I give it that. One or two tweets have disappeared and rightly so when it was predicting a couple of more named off pitch staff possibly leaving the building. 


  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    Isn't Sandgaard's wife a doctor. Wouldn't she be better off curing people and let somebody who understands football and its administration have a go?
    Yes, a hundred times over. 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    J BLOCK said:
    Been sent this, doesn’t look good (if true) (@RuiPin2022): https://twitter.com/RuiPin2022?t=b1LJuBGjiePEWCPnKTK9jA&s=08

    This account is followed by OG. If that’s not a an endorsement, I don’t know what is
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    edited August 2022
    Not blaming his wife for it but the person who sanctioned the purchase of Aneke wasted a lot of the owner's money. A decent football man may have prevented that decision which looked very odd at the time.

    Sandgaard is showing he hasn't got money to throw about and risk so why did he last season?
  • J BLOCK said:
    Been sent this, doesn’t look good (if true) (@RuiPin2022): https://twitter.com/RuiPin2022?t=b1LJuBGjiePEWCPnKTK9jA&s=08
    Please could someone put this up as some of us don't use Twitter and looks like this is something that everyone needs to read. Thanks.
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766

  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    You will need to read them from the bottom upwards. 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    _MrDick said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Been sent this, doesn’t look good (if true) (@RuiPin2022): https://twitter.com/RuiPin2022?t=b1LJuBGjiePEWCPnKTK9jA&s=08

    This account is followed by OG. If that’s not a an endorsement, I don’t know what is
    It’s pretty much the staff view I’ve heard.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,312
    _MrDick said:
    J BLOCK said:
    Been sent this, doesn’t look good (if true) (@RuiPin2022): https://twitter.com/RuiPin2022?t=b1LJuBGjiePEWCPnKTK9jA&s=08

    This account is followed by OG. If that’s not a an endorsement, I don’t know what is
    It’s pretty much the staff view I’ve heard.
    Serious questions need to be asked and answered by TS on what is happening behind the scenes. 
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    seth plum said:
    Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
    I won't pass comment on the sensibility or otherwise of this hypothetical, although I know many, not all, will agree with the sentiment, but as far as it's legality goes, I attach an article leading to a firm of Solicitors who might know the answer should you wish to find out as they attach an enquiry form.  

    Naming Rights to Sports Stadiums: the key legal issues - Ison Harrison Solicitors
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
    I won't pass comment on the sensibility or otherwise of this hypothetical, although I know many, not all, will agree with the sentiment, but as far as it's legality goes, I attach an article leading to a firm of Solicitors who might know the answer should you wish to find out as they attach an enquiry form.  

    Naming Rights to Sports Stadiums: the key legal issues - Ison Harrison Solicitors
    Thanks for this.
    Doesn’t look like there would be anything to stop the stadium being named the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’.
    If the ‘morality’ of such a name (or a name such as ‘Don’t Vote Labour Ever’) is questioned, the answer would be to debate the morality of naming stadiums after gambling companies.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    edited August 2022
    seth plum said:
    Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
    No. As you well know, - you'll remember the issue with poppies - FIFA/UEFA bans this kind of stuff. 

    No 
    political, religious or personal slogans, statements or images are permitted.  

    Of course that begs the question as to how football clubs are allowed to continue to use the rainbow laces idea to support LBGTQ+ inclusion,  why players can "take the knee" or why mangers, etc can wear badges in Ukraine national flag colours.  While the vast majority of people would go along with these indications of support, it seems to me that they are clearly a breach of the FIFA laws, being overtly political.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    Hardly a problem we need to concern ourselves with Seth, unless you win Euro Millions and become owner. :)
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    edited August 2022
    seth plum said:
    swordfish said:
    seth plum said:
    Would we be allowed to re name the stadium the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’?
    I won't pass comment on the sensibility or otherwise of this hypothetical, although I know many, not all, will agree with the sentiment, but as far as it's legality goes, I attach an article leading to a firm of Solicitors who might know the answer should you wish to find out as they attach an enquiry form.  

    Naming Rights to Sports Stadiums: the key legal issues - Ison Harrison Solicitors
    Thanks for this.
    Doesn’t look like there would be anything to stop the stadium being named the ‘Don’t Vote Tory Ever Valley’.
    If the ‘morality’ of such a name (or a name such as ‘Don’t Vote Labour Ever’) is questioned, the answer would be to debate the morality of naming stadiums after gambling companies.
    It did get me thinking that as Roland owned St. Truiden in Belgium and is/was a political figure himself there, I'm unsure how he used his ownership of that Club to promote his political ideals, if he did at all, or was even allowed to there that is. I don't think it was through Stadium Sponsorship though.

    Edit. @cafcfan's reply above appears to answer the question.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Hardly a problem we need to concern ourselves with Seth, unless you win Euro Millions and become owner. :)
    That’s the plan.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Ironic really, that you can have fungicide token and gambling all over the sport, but some other things are not allowed.
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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    kitmen being asked to place and collect equipment now - blimey, must be stressed to the eyeballs !!!!!
  • going back to Olly's redundancy, to be made redundant would mean the position that he did is now obsolete? is this the case? 

    I can't see that being the case which means (i know next to nought on employment law btw) this redundancy is not lawful. 

    Also i'm surprised that these tweets arnt causing more of a stir. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729
    If they are genuine, these tweets are unprecedented.
  • Billy Smarts, Cirque de Soleil and the Moscow State circuses gone into voluntary liquidation stating " We just can't compete with Charlton Athletic Football Club any longer".
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Agreed if these are genuine it is no doubt worrying. 

    Plus the ongoing silence on the Olly front is deafening. I'm sure there are things going on behind the scenes.

    At the end of the day if any workplace is staffed by people that are either in fear or disgruntled then that doesnt bode well. The bit I dont get is that other staff knew but were told to keep things quiet, that imo is very unlikely as the chance of someone not passing that info on is next to nothing
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,420
    Not necessarily relevant to Og’s case but I know of former staff that won’t speak publicly because of fears to their new employment. 
    So fears that current staff may have have are justified, especially with the ears and eyes on the ground reporting back.
    The ownership response to staff leaving as “We may not come across as sensitive but we get the job done” is hardly encouraging.
    We being “him and burger boy”
    And as I said before, don’t be distracted by the smile and the short skirt. 
    I was and I’m sure others were/are too. 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,626
    short skirt - where?
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,291
    short skirt - where?
    Thomas?
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,420

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,807
    Good alias to use, suspect it’s a recently released member of staff who knows how to use social media to get stuff out there