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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)
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I seriously wish he'd just take his plastic rock music and fuck off back to the land of razzle dazzle. I have stated in the past and will do so again that he's a wrong un and no better than roland. Sure, roland starved us, but he at least had the decency to tell us there would be no dinner. TS brags about all he's going to do, yet constantly fails to put anything on the table. 3 years into his 5 year plan and all we have to show for it is a squad full of poundland players and crocks. It's a sad state of affairs when we're having to pin all our hopes on a young lad on loan from Surrey. As for "Garnerball", we were warned by swindon fans about no end product and that's certainly proving to be the case. Our current league position is a true reflection of where we are as a club. Does anyone know where I can purchase 5000 plastic pigs?17
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Wow, is that true? Our average (actual) attendance will probably be close to half that this year.benjest1989 said:The year we won League One 11/12, our average attendance was 17,402.
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Is he really, deep down any different to the spivs Duchatelet,Southall and co?robinofottershaw said:It’s all a bit grim isn’t it? Appreciate TS securing the club from the spivs. However, cannot see any way we will achieve success on the football field under TS’s stewardship. With luck we may maintain a mid table tenancy in L1 but that’s about the best I think we can hope for. Certainly in a couple of years we may dreaming of those days when 10,000 turned up for a game at The Valley.
I think over time most will say not.
Their sole reason for getting involved was to flip this club at a profit in fairly short time. They've no interest in the fans and the future of the club in decades to come.3 -
I don't think your need that many...tangoflash said:I seriously wish he'd just take his plastic rock music and fuck off back to the land of razzle dazzle. I have stated in the past and will do so again that he's a wrong un and no better than roland. Sure, roland starved us, but he at least had the decency to tell us there would be no dinner. TS brags about all he's going to do, yet constantly fails to put anything on the table. 3 years into his 5 year plan and all we have to show for it is a squad full of poundland players and crocks. It's a sad state of affairs when we're having to pin all our hopes on a young lad on loan from Surrey. As for "Garnerball", we were warned by swindon fans about no end product and that's certainly proving to be the case. Our current league position is a true reflection of where we are as a club. Does anyone know where I can purchase 5000 plastic pigs?7 -
The reality will bite soon enough, perhaps already has (10,500 tickets sold last night 😯) and thereafter directional decisions taken. Successful track record CEOs and company owners don’t do failure and when it becomes apparent that this is what they are staring at, unless something significant changes, inclusive of increasing the risk profile around their venture, they are likely to make their ‘excuses’ at the right moment and leave stage left. Question is who or what next in that event?
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Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.
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What I'm hoping for is a real, authentic football experience where I come to watch the future stars of the premier league before they're ultimately sold on.4
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Poor Leo has been forensically pulled to pieces by Lauren Kreamer.38
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Rumour has it, Scamguard is negotiating a 3 year deal to sign the lad that hit the crossbar last night8
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That is absolutely f****g nuts. Who are these bloody people?Scoham said:Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.4 -
It's hard to get out of this division if you are playing within your means.
I don't think they are optimising their recruitment or running of the club, which is obviously a problem, but anyone expecting them to dip into their pockets is deluded.
We are going to finish mid-table and that's that. At least we are playing better football than usual.0 -
3yr contract for someone who was off target from the edge of the area? - what a joke.tangoflash said:Rumour has it, Scamguard is negotiating a 3 year deal to sign the lad that hit the crossbar last night
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I said some time ago Sandgaard would be looking to blame the fans when things go wobbly.
It's his 'out' and maybe Leo's insulting comments on behalf of Sandgaard are things starting to play.4 -
Sounds like they're saying that why should they invest when clearly the fans aren't interested in paying money into the club.
The reason the fans aren't turning up is because they sussed out that this season won't be anything to write home about, because of the lack of investment.1 -
You can mock, but the fella walked out of the Valley with January's transfer budget.Addick_8 said:
3yr contract for someone who was off target from the edge of the area? - what a joke.tangoflash said:Rumour has it, Scamguard is negotiating a 3 year deal to sign the lad that hit the crossbar last night
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Sorry for my ignorance, but who is this Leo Rifkind?5
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I believe that this quotation from a famous book, beloved by our late Queen, could help us understand LR's reference to "thinking "...and why he & others at our club should seriously Think before they endeavour to look intelligent.carly burn said:
That is absolutely f****g nuts. Who are these bloody people?Scoham said:Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.
" When you are a Bear( replace with Club Mouthpiece) of Very Little Brain, and you Think of Things, you find sometimes that a Thing which seemed very Thingish inside you is quite different when it gets out into the open and has other people looking at it".
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Our non-exec director.tangoflash said:Sorry for my ignorance, but who is this Leo Rifkind?
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/view/6049f2f7b643b/leo-rifkind-appointed-as-non-executive-director
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It says a lot, when 100s of people like myself have stumped up cash for a ST and still can't be arsed to go.3
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Probably can’t afford him now he’s £11,500 richer!tangoflash said:Rumour has it, Scamguard is negotiating a 3 year deal to sign the lad that hit the crossbar last night0 -
Is TS still attending games? Clearly don't expect an owner who lives overseas to attend all games but he seems to have gone missing from communications. He expressed the importance of fan engagement and good communication after Roland's debacle. Even the "booms" have disappeared from Twitter. All feeling a little uneasy again at our club.1
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What a bell-end this bloke... Not taking in to account the working class man. Comments like this is making me wonder about TS and the people around him. They need to get realistic and there heads out of the sand.Scoham said:Looks like he’s deleted these but fortunately there’s a screenshot.
I think this is the first time, I am actually thinking TS isn't the man for our club - he is losing sight of what Charlton stands for.. TS, buck up your ideas of F+#K O##9 -
I have a season ticket and also an online season ticket to watch away games (a carry-on from living overseas). That's not a small amount of money to pay out on football every year. That's how I "support my club." But last night I honestly sat there feeling like a mug for spending it, to be honest.8
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Mr Rifkind makes points that bear no relation to the average income of most Football supporters and their families. He also needs to address the owners comments after the dismissal of JJ which I believe was that a change in style of play would give Charlton a better chance of getting into the championship. At the moment Charlton do not look like playoff contenders and that is clearly down to a lack of investment in the forward line, the warning of loss of income through the ticketing policy was ignored, the current management know the depth of feeling over that issue, there is also the issue of members of staff being made redundant. Previously most supporters were backing TS to deliver, mostly based on comments he made and of course his role in saving the club, at present its hard finding a voice to support TS and his vision of the club, that is not down simply to ticketing policy but a dissolutionment in the direction of the club and lack of investment. Mr Rifkind seems to link success with pricing, my advice would be that if he thinks thats how ticketing policy should work then he needs to realise that at the moment, the team is pound shop not Selfridges and TS's comments to the contrary are wearing pretty thin.12
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I wonder if Rifkind is the so-called expert that helped devise the pricing structure. Whoever did it is certainly out of touch with reality.1
