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Match (+post p15) Thread: Colchester Utd v Charlton | Papa Johns | Tue 4th Oct 2022 7:45pm

Southbank
Southbank Posts: 5,409
edited October 2022 in General Charlton
In a season which has veered from optimism to near despair in a few months the only consolation has been the performances of the reserves in the silly cups, and the youth teams in their leagues. Garner has said that nobody who started on saturday will start tonight so we will see a mixture of reserves and youth team players. 
My guess is that we will look something like this:

MacGillvray
Clare, Ness, Thomas, Chin
CBT, Morgan, Foster-Caskey, DJ
Kanu, Leaburn

Or Clayden may be left back and McGrandles may be in midfield, plus a bunch of youth team players on the bench.

On form that line-up should be good enough to beat Colchester.

On form....
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,605
    Is the 6&5 rule still in place for this, where you had to start a certain amount of players in the match that will start in the game before or after the fixture?
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,131
    sam3110 said:
    Is the 6&5 rule still in place for this, where you had to start a certain amount of players in the match that will start in the game before or after the fixture?

    7.3  Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches.

    Guidance

    ‘Full Available Strength’ means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.

    7.4  Qualifying Player means any Player who:

     7.4.1  had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below);

     7.4.2  subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture;

     7.4.3  is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season;

     7.4.4  has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or

     7.4.5  is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy.

    7.5  First Team Fixture means the League Competition, Premier League, EFL Cup or FA Challenge Cup (but shall, in the context of Rules 7.4.3 and 7.4.4 only, also include this Competition).

    7.6  Any EFL Club failing to meet the requirement to play Full Available Strength will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000.


  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,964
    never have I been less interested in a Charlton game
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,609
    Mickey mouse cup, genuinely rather we didn't get to Wembley tbh. 
  • is it league stage or the knockout stage?
  • One competition worth watching at the moment, dont care about the results - But it feels the Cup games, seeing Aaron Henry and the kids playing etc. is so much better than any of the League shit at the moment.

    Imagine if we win we're pretty much guaranteed to be through to the next round
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,172
    edited October 2022
    is it league stage or the knockout stage?
    Still the League stage, got this game and Brighton before the Knockout Rounds
  • Imagine if we win we're pretty much guaranteed to be through to the next round
    and maybe a possible chance to play Palace's u21s .......good times
  • boggzy
    boggzy Posts: 3,633
    Can't wait!
  • Wellll... i'm looking forward to it 

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Garner said last week Aaron Henry was having a scan.
  • seth plum said:
    Garner said last week Aaron Henry was having a scan.
    FFS - Thats irritating
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    I shall pay the ten quid and watch it, I always do mug that I am.
    The 3-3 U21 game yesterday was a great watch if you like watching football.
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,409
    sam3110 said:
    Is the 6&5 rule still in place for this, where you had to start a certain amount of players in the match that will start in the game before or after the fixture?

    7.3  Each EFL Club shall play its Full Available Strength in and during all Matches.

    Guidance

    ‘Full Available Strength’ means the EFL Club must include at least four Qualifying Players in the ten outfield Players named in the starting eleven on the Team Sheet.

    7.4  Qualifying Player means any Player who:

     7.4.1  had started the immediately preceding First Team Fixture (as defined below);

     7.4.2  subsequently starts the immediately following First Team Fixture;

     7.4.3  is in the list of ten Players at the Club with the highest number of starting appearances in First Team Fixtures in the same Season;

     7.4.4  has made forty or more starting appearances in First Team Fixtures or international equivalents (and not limited to the same Club or Season); or

     7.4.5  is on standard loan from a Premier League Club or any EFL Club operating a Category One Academy.

    7.5  First Team Fixture means the League Competition, Premier League, EFL Cup or FA Challenge Cup (but shall, in the context of Rules 7.4.3 and 7.4.4 only, also include this Competition).

    7.6  Any EFL Club failing to meet the requirement to play Full Available Strength will be required to pay a fine of up to £5,000.


    7 of my line-up have made 40+ appearances, 4 is the minimum needed,  so we should be in the clear.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    edited October 2022
    I think when you are looking for the right combination, this was a great opportunity to fiddle a bit with the side and try some things rather than change it all. Quite disapointed with him. It isn't as if we actually know who our best eleven are as well as the best way to set up. Let's have another first half on Saturday like Accrington and Oxford when were not at the races doing what we could have done today.
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 12,033
    Wellll... i'm looking forward to it 
    And me
  • seth plum said:
    Garner said last week Aaron Henry was having a scan.
    Out for a year - he's pregnant.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,030
    edited October 2022
    In a league season already sliding into total apathy, has tonight’s pizza game ever felt or meant less? 

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  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,173
    Valley11 said:
    In a league season already sliding into total apathy, has tonight’s pizza game ever felt or meant less? 
    Yes! This game is just as important as every other pizza cup game! And it feels equally important! It's going to inspire us all to levels of attention and focus that only pizza cup games (and maybe U-21 pre-season games) can! Get on board... 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,155
    now this could be a record all time low for a 'first team' game 
  • clive said:
    HEAD-TO-HEAD

    Charlton and Colchester have squared off on 38 previous occasions with the Addicks winning seven, the U’s seven and the remaining four encounters resulting in draws.

    What happened in the other 20 fixtures were they abandoned.  

    Edited now!

    Quite shocking really considering the relative sizes of the clubs, that we have an equal number of wins in the fixture. You'd expect us to be well ahead
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,868
    clive said:
    HEAD-TO-HEAD

    Charlton and Colchester have squared off on 38 previous occasions with the Addicks winning seven, the U’s seven and the remaining four encounters resulting in draws.

    What happened in the other 20 fixtures were they abandoned.  

    Edited now!

    Quite shocking really considering the relative sizes of the clubs, that we have an equal number of wins in the fixture. You'd expect us to be well ahead
    Not to Millwall proportions but we never seem to do very well against them, they did the double on us in the 80-81 promotion season for example. Also remember Lisbie putting us to the sword when he played for them.
  • Forgot we were even playing tonight…
  • Valley11 said:
    In a league season already sliding into total apathy, has tonight’s pizza game ever felt or meant less? 
    Usually I'd  agree with you 100 per cent but today I dont. 

    Our chances of finishing in the top 2 are non-existant. Unless we find some form in our league games very quickly any outside chance of reaching the top 6 is remote.

    If ever there was a season to take the cups seriously it is this one.

    Not saying we should put out our first team tonight- far from it  - but we should put a strong team out to make sure we qualify tonight.

    Don't forget we were a couple of games away from Wembley last year in this competition until our players just couldn't be bothered to turn up at hartlepool last year. (Hard to forget Watsons abysmal effort to close a shot down that led to a goal)

    A day out at Wembley in this competition is hardly what we are all dreaming off but it might do something to take some of the gloom away that is rapidly enveloping us.
  • clive said:
    HEAD-TO-HEAD

    Charlton and Colchester have squared off on 38 previous occasions with the Addicks winning seven, the U’s seven and the remaining four encounters resulting in draws.

    What happened in the other 20 fixtures were they abandoned.  

    Edited now!

    Quite shocking really considering the relative sizes of the clubs, that we have an equal number of wins in the fixture. You'd expect us to be well ahead
    Agreed.  I'm assuming the head to head games include FA cup/League cup & league.  If so, to think 1of the 7 wins included the FA cup win at their old ground. Which was the luckiest cup win I have seen us have (0-1) 1984 I think.   
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,481
    I'd like to see the late experiment from the Oxford game of playing DJ as the second striker alongside a big centre forward, presumably Leaburn.

    Kanu started yesterday so can't see him starting again but with luck will come off the bench.

    Terrel Thomas should be the latest V number added to the list and I hope CBT has a point to prove.

    The demolishing of Gillingham and the win over QPR have been some of the rare positives this season so hoping for more of the same tonight in the minor cups.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,444
    edited October 2022
    Valley11 said:
    In a league season already sliding into total apathy, has tonight’s pizza game ever felt or meant less? 
    Usually I'd  agree with you 100 per cent but today I dont. 

    Our chances of finishing in the top 2 are non-existant. Unless we find some form in our league games very quickly any outside chance of reaching the top 6 is remote.

    If ever there was a season to take the cups seriously it is this one.

    Not saying we should put out our first team tonight- far from it  - but we should put a strong team out to make sure we qualify tonight.

    Don't forget we were a couple of games away from Wembley last year in this competition until our players just couldn't be bothered to turn up at hartlepool last year. (Hard to forget Watsons abysmal effort to close a shot down that led to a goal)

    A day out at Wembley in this competition is hardly what we are all dreaming off but it might do something to take some of the gloom away that is rapidly enveloping us.
    And with money clearly being an issue at the moment, and in the EFL and FA Cup a lucrative away tie would do very nicely, both for the money and giving us something to look forward to, from another 1-1 draw in the league.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,595
    Absolutely buzzing for this one!