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Sandgaard ownership discussion 2022-3 onwards (Meeting with CAST p138)

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  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    Whats she’s a ‘Dr’ of exactly?
  • se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    I understand that, contrary to appearances, they are NOT a couple. 
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    Whats she’s a ‘Dr’ of exactly?
    She has a PhD in Counselling Psychology: https://www.linkedin.com/in/raelynnmaloneyphd/
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,284
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    I understand that, contrary to appearances, they are NOT a couple. 
    She’s posted on social media on her birthday in the past thanking her darling with pictures of the two of them snuggled up.
    unless they’ve recently split?
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,103
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    I understand that, contrary to appearances, they are NOT a couple. 
    I was in the Directors Box for the Cambridge match and sat right behind them. Judging by the way she was hanging off him and showing affection 😘 I would say that they are most definitely a couple
  • supaclive said:
    From one extreme ( applying/finding more coaches for Cat 1) to the other.....

    Sounds like no-one is safe from his penny pinching.

    Oh, there is one exception, of course....
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    I understand that, contrary to appearances, they are NOT a couple. 
     You sure about that?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Bearing in mind that the academy is part-funded by grants and Valley Gold, £140k would be a sizeable slice of Charlton's commitment.
  • Didn't want your stupid Category 1 anyway

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  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    _MrDick said:
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    Something changed. In the beginning he was happy to spunk money on dubious spends, then suddenly he stopped. It is obvious that a big reason we missed out on a striker was we had to free up money elsewhere first but couldn't. It begs the question why we brought in so many midfielders if we knew it was spending all the budget. I would say it is either because Garner is an idiot or the budget changed. My money is on the latter.

    Now I think Garner was not a disasterous appointment, but a big issue with it is he is less able to be openly critical in the same way as Adkins. It is about being more willing to toe the line. I know some will disagree with me but I don't think we are that far off with the squad. We could improve defensively but a decent striker for the level would make a significant difference to us. I think there are two issues, one I know, and the first is Sandgaard doesn't understand why. The other is whether Sandgaard has the money or indeed has decided not to spend. I don't know which of those applies.
    Has Sandgaard “suddenly stopped”? I assume he’s still providing pretty significant funding or we would be heading towards administration now. 
    From recent rumours it may be Raelynn doing the funding.
    She must have serious money then.
    Doctor shacked up with huge producer of medical relief products.
    If that's not a license to print money I don't know what is!
    I understand that, contrary to appearances, they are NOT a couple. 
    I was in the Directors Box for the Cambridge match and sat right behind them. Judging by the way she was hanging off him and showing affection 😘 I would say that they are most definitely a couple
    Seems a bit inappropriate, but it was a boring game I suppose...
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    Bearing in mind that the academy is part-funded by grants and Valley Gold, £140k would be a sizeable slice of Charlton's commitment.
    Any idea how close we are to exceeding the 60% wages as a proportion of turnover rule under the EFL Salary Cost Management Protocol?

    If we're forecasting we might be within 5% of it, we might be under close scrutiny and in danger of having a transfer embargo imposed.

    With TS having overestimated turnover, it might go part way to explaining some of the wage cost cutting and why he's taking advice on pricing now. Just a thought.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    swordfish said:
    Bearing in mind that the academy is part-funded by grants and Valley Gold, £140k would be a sizeable slice of Charlton's commitment.
    Any idea how close we are to exceeding the 60% wages as a proportion of turnover rule under the EFL Salary Cost Management Protocol?

    If we're forecasting we might be within 5% of it, we might be under close scrutiny and in danger of having a transfer embargo imposed.

    With TS having overestimated turnover, it might go part way to explaining some of the wage cost cutting and why he's taking advice on pricing now. Just a thought.
    Don’t think the academy is part of any calculation.
  • swordfish
    swordfish Posts: 4,234
    swordfish said:
    Bearing in mind that the academy is part-funded by grants and Valley Gold, £140k would be a sizeable slice of Charlton's commitment.
    Any idea how close we are to exceeding the 60% wages as a proportion of turnover rule under the EFL Salary Cost Management Protocol?

    If we're forecasting we might be within 5% of it, we might be under close scrutiny and in danger of having a transfer embargo imposed.

    With TS having overestimated turnover, it might go part way to explaining some of the wage cost cutting and why he's taking advice on pricing now. Just a thought.
    Don’t think the academy is part of any calculation.
    Well anyway, as the rule is only applicable to 'player' wages, it wouldn't be a reason to cut other costs. I was just curious to know how much headroom there was under it for future signings, that's their wages, not their transfer fees, as Garner has spoken of the need to offload before bringing in before IIRC.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,458
    supaclive said:
     Disgraceful if true.
    Why should the Academy have to carry the can for Sandgaards ineptitude and failure?
    How much did it cost him to hire and then fire the likes of Roddy,  Mumford and Jokat???
  • supaclive said:
     Disgraceful if true.
    Why should the Academy have to carry the can for Sandgaards ineptitude and failure?
    How much did it cost him to hire and then fire the likes of Roddy,  Mumford and Jokat???
    Who else is gonna pay the bills? Like it or not, hes on the line to fund everything and clearly nothing is safe from cut backs. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    Doesn't our academy make a profit?
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,254
    edited October 2022
    Joachim Sandgaard giving it large on twitter. Clowns the lot of em.
  • Joachim Sandgaard giving it large on twitter. Clowns the lot of em.
    What’s he saying , fuck you charlton muppets,  that’s my Las Vegas retirement fund my old man’s spunking on you ungrateful twunts 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,521
    edited October 2022

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  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,518
    One of the issues JSandgaard, not THE issue. I am really staggered by the private and public displays of naivety. Looking for scapegoats me thinks when the failings are a combination of their own making and economic climate. The former can still be adjusted to improve the situation, but track record thus far suggests the capabilities are not within the club to make that happen. 
  • JS - unbelievable
  • Pelham123
    Pelham123 Posts: 379
    Bit ironic this academy budget cutting when you look at how the under 18s did this morning. Make the most of it.
  • Pelham123 said:
    Bit ironic this academy budget cutting when you look at how the under 18s did this morning. Make the most of it.
    Indeed but a fire sale of our best Young Guns in January is on the cards....
  • Charlton_Road_James
    Charlton_Road_James Posts: 335
    edited October 2022

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,034
    It’s only a couple of weeks since Leo Rifkind made ill advised comments which were quickly dismissed as not representing the views of the club and now one of Sandgaard’s sons is piping up. When do we just accept that this is really what the clubs leadership thinks of us?