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How many did you take on the second nine 😉.golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !8 -
And as my post above that is already getting grief says.....its over how many overs they were made. "A days play" can mean all sorts of this.Addick Addict said:506-4 off 75 overs and the players are brought off for bad light
Booooooooooo - 4 runs short of creating a new record for the most number of runs by any Test side in a day's play. But it is the most number of runs for the first day of a Test0 -
76 boundaries in 75 overs btw0
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And only 2 sixes ?Leuth said:76 boundaries in 75 overs btw0 -
The 4 centurions went to Tonbridge, Stowe, Cranleigh and Sedbergh respectively - another coincidence, or not, in that they are all private schools1
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That Pakistan bowling attack is soooo shit they’d walk straight in to the Wales football team10
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We also have 2 debutants, Brook in only his 2nd test and Duckett playing his 5th test 6 years after his 4th. We do have a bit more of a mix of experienced players in there and ours are more split between bowlers and batters.Addick Addict said:To put this bowling attack into perspective - five of the six bowlers used had one Test wicket between them prior to today. The other had 33. Anderson, with 667 wickets, has almost 20 times the total of the Pakistan bowling attack on his own! Combine that inexperience with a flat deck and a bullying batting line up and we are where we are.0 -
I think they wanted to get their hundreds in double time and get out so they could go back to sitting on the toilet!DamoNorthStand said:I knew our lot had the runs this week, but not in this way.11 -
Indeed - our top six had played 273 Tests prior to today as opposed to their six bowlers with just 15 Tests in total. And it's easier for inexperienced Test batsmen to play an inexperienced attack on a road as it's no place for even the best of bowlers let alone those who have no plans let alone any control.cantersaddick said:
We also have 2 debutants, Brook in only his 2nd test and Duckett playing his 5th test 6 years after his 4th. We do have a bit more of a mix of experienced players in there and ours are more split between bowlers and batters.Addick Addict said:To put this bowling attack into perspective - five of the six bowlers used had one Test wicket between them prior to today. The other had 33. Anderson, with 667 wickets, has almost 20 times the total of the Pakistan bowling attack on his own! Combine that inexperience with a flat deck and a bullying batting line up and we are where we are.
It will be interesting to see how much the pitch changes over the course of the next few days and how we bowl on it.0 -
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Harry Brook didn't make it back to the toilet in time, but luckily found a convenient bag lying around.Chizz said:7 -
Got to feel sorry for all the fans who have been so desperately short-changed by the day's play.golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
PS. I know the match probably started before 11am today but the ICC must start looking at daylight hours on the sub continent & change the playing conditions to suit. Many times in India & Pakistan play finishes even before the scheduled time because of light. We might get "bad light stops play" in England but thats usually because of the weather, not because of the sun setting. Maybe we should try starting test matches in England at 1pm & try getting in 90 overs during September.0 -
What did you shoot on the back 9?golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !0 -
RedChaser said:
How many did you take on the second nine 😉.golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
Been done mate. You snooze you lose 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
What did you shoot on the back 9?golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !1 -
I'm sick of making excuses for him now... Joe Root out0
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Well that's pissed over my corn flakes. I typed that expecting it to be in promote territoryRedChaser said:RedChaser said:
How many did you take on the second nine 😉.golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
Been done mate. You snooze you loose 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
What did you shoot on the back 9?golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !2 -
To be fair you’ve had a lot on your plate defending your position over on the Varney/Brighton thread 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
Well that's pissed over my corn flakes. I typed that expecting it to be in promote territoryRedChaser said:RedChaser said:
How many did you take on the second nine 😉.golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
Been done mate. You snooze you loose 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
What did you shoot on the back 9?golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !0 -
That's not the point. The point is a Test match is over 5 days & every day you are supposed to bowl 90 overs (minus any overs lost due to change of innings). Today we lost 15 overs. Not just the odd one or two but 15. That is supposed to be an hours play. There were not (I dont think) and major disruptions (no head injuries that required the physio on) and only 4 wickets fell, so again not a lot of time lost due to players coming out. There were a couple of DRS reviews, but again not that many and not as many as some recent Test matches.Chizz said:
Got to feel sorry for all the fans who have been so desperately short-changed by the day's play.golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
PS. I know the match probably started before 11am today but the ICC must start looking at daylight hours on the sub continent & change the playing conditions to suit. Many times in India & Pakistan play finishes even before the scheduled time because of light. We might get "bad light stops play" in England but thats usually because of the weather, not because of the sun setting. Maybe we should try starting test matches in England at 1pm & try getting in 90 overs during September.
The venue has floodlights, so no reason why they couldn't keep playing on until it actually got dangerous. About the only time I have seen the playing conditions adhered to was Nassar's famous win IN PAKISTAN when the umpires stood firm and said the earlier timewasting would not work & Pakistan had to bowl the allotted overs. Today that would have been called off with England needing 15 to win.
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the day was cut short to save Pakistan, and the ball, further punishment0
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My fat mate keeps saying he's got a lot on his plate........RedChaser said:
To be fair you’ve had a lot on your plate defending your position over on the Varney/Brighton thread 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
Well that's pissed over my corn flakes. I typed that expecting it to be in promote territoryRedChaser said:RedChaser said:
How many did you take on the second nine 😉.golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
Been done mate. You snooze you loose 😉.Todds_right_hook said:
What did you shoot on the back 9?golfaddick said:
No, Please tell me because I've shot 57 around Barnehurst Golf course but my name ain't in the record books !Leuth said:
You do know what records are, right?golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !0 -
What really gets my goat is in England they always make the time up at the end of the day. Then go off for bad light without making anything up. You have wasted 5 hours of perfect day light before a ball is bowled.golfaddick said:
That's not the point. The point is a Test match is over 5 days & every day you are supposed to bowl 90 overs (minus any overs lost due to change of innings). Today we lost 15 overs. Not just the odd one or two but 15. That is supposed to be an hours play. There were not (I dont think) and major disruptions (no head injuries that required the physio on) and only 4 wickets fell, so again not a lot of time lost due to players coming out. There were a couple of DRS reviews, but again not that many and not as many as some recent Test matches.Chizz said:
Got to feel sorry for all the fans who have been so desperately short-changed by the day's play.golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
PS. I know the match probably started before 11am today but the ICC must start looking at daylight hours on the sub continent & change the playing conditions to suit. Many times in India & Pakistan play finishes even before the scheduled time because of light. We might get "bad light stops play" in England but thats usually because of the weather, not because of the sun setting. Maybe we should try starting test matches in England at 1pm & try getting in 90 overs during September.
The venue has floodlights, so no reason why they couldn't keep playing on until it actually got dangerous. About the only time I have seen the playing conditions adhered to was Nassar's famous win IN PAKISTAN when the umpires stood firm and said the earlier timewasting would not work & Pakistan had to bowl the allotted overs. Today that would have been called off with England needing 15 to win.
Yes you should get 90 overs in for you, rather expensive tickets, but these are extra overs. If you need to make up more than, say 10, overs start early as well.2 -
With modern scoring rates, and the amount of time it takes to fetch the ball back from the boundary, 90 overs probably isn't realistic, when compared to traditional Test match batting of leaving the ball or pushing for a couple of singles which would have taken far less time.0
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Simple answer then is to have players stationed around the boundary to field the ball. I think England did this in the summer Tests against NZ when going for quick runs. There are answers if you want to find them.killerandflash said:With modern scoring rates, and the amount of time it takes to fetch the ball back from the boundary, 90 overs probably isn't realistic, when compared to traditional Test match batting of leaving the ball or pushing for a couple of singles which would have taken far less time.0 -
Left for work at 120 odd for none - did I miss an anything ?0
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Just checked the details of the Sri Lanka v Bangladesh Test match in 2002. 2nd day Sri Lanka started on 32 for no wicket (7 overs) and finished the day 541 for 9 (111 overs). So IN A DAYS PLAY OF 104 OVERS Sri Lanka scored 509 runs.golfaddick said:
And as my post above that is already getting grief says.....its over how many overs they were made. "A days play" can mean all sorts of this.Addick Addict said:506-4 off 75 overs and the players are brought off for bad light
Booooooooooo - 4 runs short of creating a new record for the most number of runs by any Test side in a day's play. But it is the most number of runs for the first day of a Test
For context England scored 506 runs in 75 overs.
I think I know what is the better feat and in my mind a record.1 -
You'd prefer England to be 275-2, so long as they did it in 90 overs?golfaddick said:
That's not the point. The point is a Test match is over 5 days & every day you are supposed to bowl 90 overs (minus any overs lost due to change of innings). Today we lost 15 overs. Not just the odd one or two but 15. That is supposed to be an hours play. There were not (I dont think) and major disruptions (no head injuries that required the physio on) and only 4 wickets fell, so again not a lot of time lost due to players coming out. There were a couple of DRS reviews, but again not that many and not as many as some recent Test matches.Chizz said:
Got to feel sorry for all the fans who have been so desperately short-changed by the day's play.golfaddick said:Whilst I applauded the ICC & ICB for proposing starting the game a day later due to illness I dont applaud them for setting the playing conditions that means players walk off 15 overs short of the MINIMUM that should be played in a day. I mean, what's the point of having floodlights. And I hope people who do the record books put today's play as the highest scoring EVER......because I bet the 509 that Sri Lanka made wasn't done in 75 overs !
PS. I know the match probably started before 11am today but the ICC must start looking at daylight hours on the sub continent & change the playing conditions to suit. Many times in India & Pakistan play finishes even before the scheduled time because of light. We might get "bad light stops play" in England but thats usually because of the weather, not because of the sun setting. Maybe we should try starting test matches in England at 1pm & try getting in 90 overs during September.
The venue has floodlights, so no reason why they couldn't keep playing on until it actually got dangerous. About the only time I have seen the playing conditions adhered to was Nassar's famous win IN PAKISTAN when the umpires stood firm and said the earlier timewasting would not work & Pakistan had to bowl the allotted overs. Today that would have been called off with England needing 15 to win.0 -
515-5, 76 overs
Stokes out for 41 (18), backing away from stumps and bowled.
Livingstone joins Brook at the crease.0 -
Livingstone picks out the man in the deep.
539-6
Livingstone 9(10)
Out comes Will Jacks.0 -
Review for LBW first ball but Jacks survives.0
