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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    After our experience with Chuks Aneke and Chris Solly with his knee issue how can we buy Stephen Sessegnon (another loan maybe) when he struggles to play two games in a row and I believe no operation was possible or needed ?

    We can't keep having players who are only fit for 23 matches. If they get injured while playing for us then that is football but why buy someone with an on going issue ?

    It gives our negative fans a chance to blame our medical staff and coaches all the time.
    Well done to our medical staff for helping Ryan Inniss to be fit for selection in over 40 matches last season; he missed more games through suspension than injury last season which ironically was his last at Cafc.

    The thought of Chuks playing 23 matches would be fantastic; despite his abilities it must be time to pay up Aneke's contract as despite being muscular and strong his body can't do contact sport. 
    He was available for 36 out of 46 matches before he left for Birmingham but only 13 in 22/23. 
    A real shame.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    soapboxsam said:
    After our experience with Chuks Aneke and Chris Solly with his knee issue how can we buy Stephen Sessegnon (another loan maybe) when he struggles to play two games in a row and I believe no operation was possible or needed ?

    We can't keep having players who are only fit for 23 matches. If they get injured while playing for us then that is football but why buy someone with an on going issue ?

    It gives our negative fans a chance to blame our medical staff and coaches all the time.
    Well done to our medical staff for helping Ryan Inniss to be fit for selection in over 40 matches last season; he missed more games through suspension than injury last season which ironically was his last at Cafc.

    The thought of Chuks playing 23 matches would be fantastic; despite his abilities it must be time to pay up Aneke's contract as despite being muscular and strong his body can't do contact sport. 
    He was available for 36 out of 46 matches before he left for Birmingham but only 13 in 22/23. 
    A real shame.
    It was said no operation was needed but that’s possibly because he didn’t want to miss games and it was manageable by not playing every game. He might now have had the operation, so that he’s ready for next season. He played 33 games last season so I’d still say he’s worth signing as long as he isn’t asking for too much

    Might be a bit risky having him and Egbo as the only right back options though as both struggled with injuries, Asiimwe did look like he could be a good option though so maybe he will be good enough to step up 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,054
    I think even with Aneke available for a chunk of the season I'd still want 2 strikers in - gives the chance to get Dan Kanu either a top end NL or lower L2 loan. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,359
    edited June 2023
    Aneke is the perfect bench player so no dramas keeping him, can anyone recall a player in modern history that has had the sub impact that Chuks has for us? Players just look demoralised up against him. Football is squad game and if Chuks can offer us 20/30 minutes every league game and with the potential impact he has, I don't think we are at a loss. 

    Sess would be a fantastic signing for us, he's a 100%er, seems to like it here and is a talented young player, two thumbs up from me. 

    The pipe dream now is Alfie May and potentially Stockton, although I've heard he is looking likely to go to Derby County. 

    Just food for thought, would anyway be too upset if we sold Leaburn and replaced him with JCH, not to be one of those annoying twitter accounts but if (big IF) we did manage to sell the likes of Kirk and Lavelle and get a fee for Leaburn, I think that would be quite good business.

    Been an admirer of JCH for some time and as others have stated I don't see him being too favourable for a championship move, I don't think he did enough while up there to justify the asking price, you get him in league 1 though and it practically guarantees the play offs with his goal return. 

    Imagine the little man big man combo of JCH and Alfie May, my word

    Anyway back to football manager 
  • Starinnaddick
    Starinnaddick Posts: 4,345
    A lot of speculation about Sessegnon having/or had an op.
    Anyone know the facts as a fully fit Sess would be a great signing. imo
  • covered_end_junior
    covered_end_junior Posts: 4,523
    edited June 2023
    Quite a few decent and realistic players out of contact throughout the Championship and League 1.

    Joe Ward - Peterborough
    Archie Collins - Exeter
    Sam Smith - Camebridge
    Josh Key - Exeter
    Sean Roughan - Lincoln
    Harvey Knibbs - Cambridge
    Curtis Nelson - Blackpool
    Sean Morrison - Rotherham
    Callum Elder - Hull
    Harlee Dean - Birmigham
    Gavin Whyte - Cardiff
    Connor Wickham - Cardiff
    Luke Berry - Luton
    Ryan Leonard - Millwall
    Carlos Mendes - Luton
    Tyler Walker - Coventry

  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,054
    Josh Key would be a fantastic signing regardless of if we got Sess or not. Would take Sam Smith too even if we signed May , as he can operate wide as well. 

    Harvey Knibbs would be a good option if we're looking for wingers. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,290
    MarcusH26 said:
    Josh Key would be a fantastic signing regardless of if we got Sess or not. Would take Sam Smith too even if we signed May , as he can operate wide as well. 

    Harvey Knibbs would be a good option if we're looking for wingers. 
    Josh Key will end up in the championship, Swansea I think. Archie Collins from Exeter might be more realistic and a good upgrade on Morgan 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    NabySarr said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Josh Key would be a fantastic signing regardless of if we got Sess or not. Would take Sam Smith too even if we signed May , as he can operate wide as well. 

    Harvey Knibbs would be a good option if we're looking for wingers. 
    Josh Key will end up in the championship, Swansea I think. Archie Collins from Exeter might be more realistic and a good upgrade on Morgan 
    If we try we'll know we're fishing in the right ponds.


    Oh how I'd love a return to the 2011 summer when we beat Championship clubs to quality L1 full backs.
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  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    It depends with Aneke now. Each injury knocks your explosive pace and power. Instead those kinda players end up getting lairy and into mini rucks because of frustration. 

    Let's see.
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
    Sam Smith would defo be on my list along with Mendes Gomes.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,911
    If we are making serious enquiries for players like Alfie May things are looking up if we can get 4 or 5 signings of that ilk we will have a great chance next season
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    Alfie May would be a great signing and while we are there we can pick up his team mate Charlie Brown for peanuts. 
  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 5,658
    Have heard that Alfie May and Bradley Dack are good mates. Would be great to sign both in next couple of weeks as I feel we need to really hit the ground running. 
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    mart77 said:
    Have heard that Alfie May and Bradley Dack are good mates. Would be great to sign both in next couple of weeks as I feel we need to really hit the ground running. 
    Build a midget team?
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,809
    May wants yo come I think.. sensible offer and we can do that.. Dack I would imagine will get a championship move
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    superclive said:
    May wants yo come I think.. sensible offer and we can do that.. Dack I would imagine will get a championship move
    Well he'd better buy me a drink first. 
  • pickwick
    pickwick Posts: 1,649
    Oh OK do they pass the height test?
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

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  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,885
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I'm very happy living where I live. But if I was out of work and new job offers were at the other end of the country, then I would have to move
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I am off to Slaford Quays this morning, I'll have a word if I see him.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,741
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I am off to Slaford Quays this morning, I'll have a word if I see him.

    You might have to leave a message. He is on Honeymoon in Dubai at the moment!
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited June 2023
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I'm very happy living where I live. But if I was out of work and new job offers were at the other end of the country, then I would have to move

    You are not alone with that choice.
    With Footballers it always about options in their short careers.
    Jayden Stockley was very happy living in Godstone, Surrey with his wife and 3 children including his new born Son.
    We met at a National trust property in Sussex the week after the Ipswich 4-0 defeat in the final game.
    Remember this is when he was rated by most Charlton fans after 20 goals in all competitions with a strike partner !

    " I'm settled in the south and at Charlton and don't want to go back up North." 

    JJ leaves, Garner comes in and Stockley in a 3 up front looks lost and by the time Holden takes over, JS loses the captain's armband and is benched. 

    Window opens and Jayden with his Dale Stephens Satnav ends up in Fleetwood!
    "It was a no brainer move as I can play in a two up front"
    Some thing smells fishy and no talk of the beautiful south 🤷🏼‍♂️

    I would imagine Dack would've Championship or League 1 clubs within commuting distance from Salford interested so no need to return south if he and his WAG are settled.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,360
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I am off to Slaford Quays this morning, I'll have a word if I see him.
    Yeah but he resides in Salford Quays, you going to Slaford Quays will be useless. 

    Anyway if you do make it to Salford Quays, just chat to him via his Ring Video Doorbell. 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Clem_Snide said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    I'd be amazed if Bradley Dack comes to Charlton. It would be a huge wage cut, his history with us is not good and the last time I spoke to his mum she said he was very happy living in Salford Quays.

    I am off to Slaford Quays this morning, I'll have a word if I see him.

    You might have to leave a message. He is on Honeymoon in Dubai at the moment!
    So is Albie at the moment.  Perhaps they are swapping shirts
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,256
    The old Aneke question.  Of course, we have to keep him, unless the owners are flush with cash and are happy to pay him up, but I highly doubt that.  

    The issue I have with it is that people still have the opinion that he’s this beast who terrorizes defences based on the 20/21 season.  He was affective coming off the bench, but with each year that has past, and each additional injury, he’s become less effective.  

    I am not saying he’s isn’t worth keeping given the contractual situation and the fact we know he’s knackered, but I don’t believe he’s capable of what he once was, even coming off the bench 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,627
    cabbles said:
    The old Aneke question.  Of course, we have to keep him, unless the owners are flush with cash and are happy to pay him up, but I highly doubt that.  

    The issue I have with it is that people still have the opinion that he’s this beast who terrorizes defences based on the 20/21 season.  He was affective coming off the bench, but with each year that has past, and each additional injury, he’s become less effective.  

    I am not saying he’s isn’t worth keeping given the contractual situation and the fact we know he’s knackered, but I don’t believe he’s capable of what he once was, even coming off the bench 
    I think that’s fair. Holden will know everything he needs to know by the end of pre season. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,175
    If Holden does go back to 3-5-2 I’d be interested to see if Aneke was more durable given he’d have less running to do 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,705
    cabbles said:
    The old Aneke question.  Of course, we have to keep him, unless the owners are flush with cash and are happy to pay him up, but I highly doubt that.  

    The issue I have with it is that people still have the opinion that he’s this beast who terrorizes defences based on the 20/21 season.  He was affective coming off the bench, but with each year that has past, and each additional injury, he’s become less effective.  

    I am not saying he’s isn’t worth keeping given the contractual situation and the fact we know he’s knackered, but I don’t believe he’s capable of what he once was, even coming off the bench 
    I know it won't happen but ideally I'd only keep Aneke on a pay as you play contract. Good to have around but them injuries are too much! 

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