At the end of the season I was hoping that we would keep both Hector and Sessengon. One down would be pleased if we get the second signed up at some point.
He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?
Clutching at straws I know… :-)
That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.
Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months.
Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year ??
Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.
I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing
He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?
Clutching at straws I know… :-)
That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.
Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months.
Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year ??
Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.
I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing
Makes sense except we were continually told he had Championship offers.
Fantastic news!!! We are signing the same players who got us to 10th last season. Brilliant. I am buying my season ticket right now. Can't wait.
Now we know why the budget was fixed. We are paying the same players the same money as last season
Simpleton.
Simply facts. We conceded 18 goals in the 9 games that Hector and Thomas played in the same back line for us last season. Average 2 a game or 92 in a season. Hector will have to be a f*** more fitter to make a dent in that. Yet some people are jumping for joy we have the same defenders as last season Christ how deluded some people can be, and how many straws can you clutch at.
Well he did join us after being without a club after Fulham released him. So from May 2022 to when he signed for us, whilst i'm sure he kept a basic level of fitness, he wouldn't have been playing games and training day in day out.
So naturally he will start next season a lot fitter than when he joined us.
We are a laughing stock of a club. Players that have played here before only want to sign for a year.
Are we supposed to be happy with that ?? We'll be in the same position this time next year - players out of contract & struggling to build a decent squad.
Oh well, doesn't take much to keep you lot happy.
I genuinely don’t think Charlton are the team for you.
Fantastic news!!! We are signing the same players who got us to 10th last season. Brilliant. I am buying my season ticket right now. Can't wait.
Now we know why the budget was fixed. We are paying the same players the same money as last season
Simpleton.
Simply facts. We conceded 18 goals in the 9 games that Hector and Thomas played in the same back line for us last season. Average 2 a game or 92 in a season. Hector will have to be a f*** more fitter to make a dent in that. Yet some people are jumping for joy we have the same defenders as last season Christ how deluded some people can be, and how many straws can you clutch at.
A good signing - we have six weeks to the first league game so he has plenty of time to get fit and have a proper pre-season, last season he looked a bit knackered by the season end, unsurprising since he missed the first half of the season and had hardly played first team football for a couple of years prior to that.
He brings a bit of character and that he took a few weeks to sign on suggests he was possibly talking to one or two other clubs.
I hope he can pass on some experience to Lucas Ness.
We how have a defence for Welling: Egbo-Ness-Hector-Thomas. We just need a bit of depth...
Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!
I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table
Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!
I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table
Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them ..
Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????
go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.
go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.
even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.
chill people, you will make yourselves ill.
Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow.
Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening!
I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.
if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?
a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.
if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.
I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting . I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short . JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table
Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them ..
true. The excitement to see who is this year’s Bogle or Bonne is palpable .
Dubai have u heard anything recently regarding Sess ? Cheers
Certainly interested in him, but he was on a good deal at Fulham, we only paid a percentage for his salary last season. I believe we have offered him a contract, will be on of those if it happens will be later in the window, as he is seeing what’s around
His good deal at Fulham, no doubt would be astronomical wages for us.
Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs ..
You say the opposite to the viewpoint on here, FOR EVERYTHING, what do you get out of it?
Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs ..
I thought you said that he had a medical & was about to sign. That was 2 weeks ago.
Then he was told other things, now he is told this. Not rocket science.
Hopefully he will get told to play with the traffic.
He wouldn’t put pen to paper without some assurances about future incomings, would he?
Clutching at straws I know… :-)
That's why he only signed for a year. No real assurances or so undecided he took the shortest deal going.
Not a great show of faith is it. Last 2 signings, both who played here last season so "know the club", sign for just 12 months.
Sats so much about us as a club don't uiu think. Out of interest (and I generally don't kniw) have any other league 1 players this June signed on for just a year ??
Don't think I've ever seen that happen in the summer transfer window.
I don't think it's that. Far more likely is he played 8 games in two and a half years and then had an ok, visibly unfit 17 games in League One in an average team. He's probably above our level and pay but other offers weren't forthcoming because he hasn't been able to show enough to get more. A one year deal for him on less than he'd like gives him the chance to get more. If he's great and we go up he can get a Championship wage with us. If he's great and we don't go up a Championship team will come in for him. A player of his pedigree signing a one year deal for us makes perfect sense for him regardless of who owns us, and for us getting him even for a year is a good thing
"A player of his pedigree" signing for a divison three club............................
Was told that we had no interest in May , DH was asked if he wanted him he said no and that was that .. seemed it all come from his agent using the local press trying to drum up interest from bigger clubs ..
You say the opposite to the viewpoint on here, FOR EVERYTHING, what do you get out of it?
Parody account
There's a lifer behind it with their own/real account, too
Somehow gets kicks out of posting in a contrarian manner.
Once you've seen through it the annoyance stops and it all seems a bit pathetic and childish
We are a laughing stock of a club. Players that have played here before only want to sign for a year.
Are we supposed to be happy with that ?? We'll be in the same position this time next year - players out of contract & struggling to build a decent squad.
Oh well, doesn't take much to keep you lot happy.
The only laughing stock is you for these ridiculous and repetitive posts. Still you do draw the attention you seek, I guess.
Never understand the meltdown people have when we ‘miss out’ on a player we were never in for
You are playing it down here, we absolutely were in for him. It's a bit different from the usual meltdown when we lose out to another club to a player we didn't actually bid for, this is completely different.
That was a player that is a top player in the league, who was available and we could have got and it looks like may go to a team in the league below. This is an occasion where people are in their rights to meltdown.
It's the same old window, so far, a centre back no one wants, a centre back who has signed an extension after probably being rejected by most championship clubs or league 1 not willing to pay more and a goalkeeper who has about 50 senior appearances at the age of 26, most of which were at non league clubs.
I actually find Golfies post refreshing on this occasion cause he is right.
It reads as though some didn't want Hector to stay? Did they complain when he was offered new terms? If not, then why criticise those bigging him up and taking it as good news? I don't mind admitting I thought there was very little chance he'd be here next season from what I'd seen of him, so I'm delighted.
If the argument is the defence is porous, perhaps he wasn't the weakest link in it and others should go. One or two have and others will either go or be sent out on loan, so just maybe there are some at the Club who understand what's required on the playing side.
If we were to get promoted, then we can always offer improved terms next summer and let him consider his opinions then. Of course, we might lose him for a fee in January if an offer we can't refuse comes in, but for now, what's not to like?
Whether others 'don't want him' is completely irrelevant because we do and know he can do a good job for us.
’We didn’t have the team last season but he’s (Holden) going to build a team to meet that objective (promotion)’
Presumably Hector’s decision to sign early is partly based on assurances that we’re going to have a go this year. Let’s hope he and Holden haven’t been sold any flannel by the new owners, and Holden is actually given the resources and freedom to build a promotion-winning squad.
Hector is an excellent addition, I have no qualms really about a one year deal - gives both parties the flexibility that if we got promoted to turn that maybe into a 2yr extension or something.
As for what's next , from what's being linked with El Mizouni it's clear we want a box to box energetic midfielder to complement Dobbo and Fraser , and obviously we badly need to address the fullback positions - whether that's another move for Tayo Edun or not obviously remains to be seen. Would be surprised if we're signing anyone on loan yet purely because clubs won't be making decisions on that kind of thing this early unless it's a U23 player from a Prem side.
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So naturally he will start next season a lot fitter than when he joined us.
Aside from his class and ability it’s heartening that players clearly like and respect Dean Holden.
He brings a bit of character and that he took a few weeks to sign on suggests he was possibly talking to one or two other clubs.
I hope he can pass on some experience to Lucas Ness.
We how have a defence for Welling: Egbo-Ness-Hector-Thomas. We just need a bit of depth...
His good deal at Fulham, no doubt would be astronomical wages for us.
You say the opposite to the viewpoint on here, FOR EVERYTHING, what do you get out of it?
He serves up a decent beer.
Hopefully he will get told to play with the traffic.
Aneke was asked but he was worried on a sprain putting the kit on.
"A player of his pedigree" signing for a divison three club............................
There's a lifer behind it with their own/real account, too
Somehow gets kicks out of posting in a contrarian manner.
Once you've seen through it the annoyance stops and it all seems a bit pathetic and childish
Still you do draw the attention you seek, I guess.
That was a player that is a top player in the league, who was available and we could have got and it looks like may go to a team in the league below. This is an occasion where people are in their rights to meltdown.
It's the same old window, so far, a centre back no one wants, a centre back who has signed an extension after probably being rejected by most championship clubs or league 1 not willing to pay more and a goalkeeper who has about 50 senior appearances at the age of 26, most of which were at non league clubs.
I actually find Golfies post refreshing on this occasion cause he is right.
If the argument is the defence is porous, perhaps he wasn't the weakest link in it and others should go. One or two have and others will either go or be sent out on loan, so just maybe there are some at the Club who understand what's required on the playing side.
If we were to get promoted, then we can always offer improved terms next summer and let him consider his opinions then. Of course, we might lose him for a fee in January if an offer we can't refuse comes in, but for now, what's not to like?
Whether others 'don't want him' is completely irrelevant because we do and know he can do a good job for us.
’We didn’t have the team last season but he’s (Holden) going to build a team to meet that objective (promotion)’
Presumably Hector’s decision to sign early is partly based on assurances that we’re going to have a go this year. Let’s hope he and Holden haven’t been sold any flannel by the new owners, and Holden is actually given the resources and freedom to build a promotion-winning squad.
As for what's next , from what's being linked with El Mizouni it's clear we want a box to box energetic midfielder to complement Dobbo and Fraser , and obviously we badly need to address the fullback positions - whether that's another move for Tayo Edun or not obviously remains to be seen. Would be surprised if we're signing anyone on loan yet purely because clubs won't be making decisions on that kind of thing this early unless it's a U23 player from a Prem side.