Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446

Braziliance said:

000__Jaaaaay__000 said:

Never understand the meltdown people have when we ‘miss out’ on a player we were never in for 

You are playing it down here, we absolutely were in for him. It's a bit different from the usual meltdown when we lose out to another club to a player we didn't actually bid for, this is completely different.

That was a player that is a top player in the league, who was available and we could have got and it looks like may go to a team in the league below. This is an occasion where people are in their rights to meltdown. 

Perhaps we should save the melt downs for if and when it’s  ‘has gone’.

Great news about Hector. Icing on the cake would have been a two year deal, but with all the uncertainty around I’ll settle for one. 

Isn't the May thing with Gillingham, if it happens, a statement by the owners, equivalent to when Hulyer bought Simonsen, obviously at a much different standard, but a marquee signing for them nonetheless 

Let's look on the bright side, once our takeover completes, we might be looking to make one of those ourselves, although what's left on the shelves by then who knows. Need to think outside the box, well the black one anyway😉

FSLN1 said:

A good signing - we have six weeks to the first league game so he has plenty of time to get fit and have a proper pre-season, last season he looked a bit knackered by the season end, unsurprising since he missed the first half of the season and had hardly played  first team football for a  couple of years prior to that.

He brings a bit of character and that he took a few weeks to sign on suggests he was possibly talking to one or two other clubs.

 I hope he can pass on some experience to Lucas Ness. 

We how have a defence for Welling: Egbo-Ness-Hector-Thomas. We just need a bit of depth...

Will probably be a different eleven each half. Lavelle and Chin will likely appear in defence also. 

RonnieMoore said:

wmcf123 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

LargeAddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????

go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.

go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.

even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.

chill people, you will make yourselves ill. 

Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow. 

Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening! 

I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.

if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?

a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.

if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.

I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting .  I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short .  JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table 

Window don’t shut till end of Aug like every year players don’t become available till last few weeks of that window as SG said many times we have our targets but we have to be patient in getting them .. 

sorry but this just isn’t true. Maybe for the prem loans but good players move whenever. Pompy Ipswich and Peterborough have all signed good players. This line about ‘waiting’ for the top targets is a load of rubbish - if a club is serious they will pay the money to get their targets and business done

ShootersHillGuru said:

Still much work to be done.
GK ✔️
Defence ✖️
Midfield / Wings ✖️
Attack ✖️
Still plenty of time and Hectors comments are encouraging but he would say that wouldn’t he. 

Why would he say it (or sign) if it wasn't true?

Pelling1993 said:

Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.

Then we do you think we need?

1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST

3 out and 8 in sounds about right?

Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on Chuks 

Pelling1993 said:

Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.

Then we do you think we need?

1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST

3 out and 8 in sounds about right?

I imagine that you are about right in terms of positions but maybe not the numbers - I would think at least a few players will be bought in to cover multiple roles - similar to Thomas as cover at LB and CB, probably a player who can play "across the front line" in multiple positions and maybe a utility midfielder too.

I personally would prefer to have specialist players in every role but pragmatism and financial sense suggest that is probably not on the cards across the entire squad.

NabySarr said:

Pelling1993 said:

Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.

Then we do you think we need?

1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST

3 out and 8 in sounds about right?

Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on Chuks 

Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB

Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷‍♂️

seth plum said:

JamesSeed said:

Todds_right_hook said:

wmcf123 said:

Todds_right_hook said:

LargeAddick said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Are people really seriously talking about relegation 2 months before the window shuts and in week 1 of pre season?????

go into pre season with this squad isn't great but we have time.

go into the season with this squad and we will be looking over our shoulder.

even with this poor squad, we are still better than the promoted teams, port vale, Cambridge etc.

chill people, you will make yourselves ill. 

Do you really believe that even with the current poor squad we are better than the promoted teams and better than others like Port Vale? If so then wow. 

Yes. As I said, 6 weeks to go until jim white evening! 

I've just received a message saying hector has signed. I'm not sure if it's been posted yet on here yet as this is the first message I've seen and read. In a space of an hour, our squad has been massively improved.

if we play 4 at the back, our centre backs are hector, ness, Thomas and either Mitchell or elewere (spelling). You believe that Carlisle centre backs options are better than that? How about Cambridge, how about orient?

a midfield 3 of Dobson, frazer and mcgrandles is a good league 1 trio. Not saying it's good enough for promotion but definitely better than the 4 promoted teams can put out.

if you honestly believe Carlisle are stronger than us then I see your wow and raise you with a double wow.

I don’t know if we are better than Carlisle but there’s nothing about our team than can be viewed as exciting .  I’m pleased with Hector and Thomas re-signing but we are woefully short .  JRS papered over a lot of cracks last season and we still only finished mid table 

I never said the team is exciting. I was pointing out that the small (same bunch every day, every thread) who are talking unnecessarily and stupidly about relegation when the window is open for another 6 weeks that we are better than teams in this league and willl not go down.

we still have a mid table first team, which will be improved. Dubai said there is a possibility of another in today. The squad is being rebuilt although slower than most want to see but signings are incoming. People just need to chill, enjoy the hot weather and wait and see what happens

Great news for you Todds… the transfer window:

‘will close at 11pm on Friday 1st September.’

‘Close’?
Sure your terminology is correct?

SLAMS SHUT!

(But tbf I copied and pasted the quote.)

I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...

Redhenry said:

I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...

12 months or nothing at all...I know which ones better. 

Redhenry said:

I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...

Maybe. But even so it's still better than the alternative which currently would put our "senior"/first choice CB pairing as Ness and Lavelle. I think we can agree that would be slightly worse than "disappointing!"

cafcsinger said:

lancashire lad said:

that's see if I understand this right

we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one
we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement
we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game
we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements
we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season

wow that's good isn't it?

I must have missed the announcement that the season is now starting tomorrow and we're playing Orient

We play Welling tomorrow, can joke all we want but that's where the season starts so we are ready for our opening game. 

It really is groundhog day, all the posts on this thread are identical year after year. 

We don't sign any of the best performers in the league while rival clubs will and while they do there will be such posts as 'We were never in for him' or 'Most clubs aren't doing business right now' 

The clubs who are serious either have their squad ready now or are adding players. 

We have the shittest recruitment team in the whole of the EFL in terms of our stature, I am absolutely adamant on that. 

Our signings will be, a left back on loan, a winger on loan, a midfielder on loan, one of the three will be our best player like the loans usually are, we will sign cast offs no one else wants and they will be billed as players we have wanted by our pony recruitment team.

We will probably finish in the region of 9th to 14th. Might sack our manager along the way, lose our loans and our players that have one year left and then do it all again next season. 

For every player we sign, that isn't crocked, an ex player or someone who is championship/higher end league 1 quality (loans not included) I will donate a tenner to the upbeats

NabySarr said:

eastterrace6168 said:

NabySarr said:

Pelling1993 said:

Need to ship out DJ, Kirk & Lavelle.

Then we do you think we need?

1 x RB
1 x CB
1 x LB
1 x CM
1 x CAM
1 x LW
1 x RW
1 x ST

3 out and 8 in sounds about right?

Would probably get 2 Right wingers instead of the left winger as Campbell and CBT both prefer the left. I think we need 2 strikers as Leaburn is quite injury prone and we can’t rely on Chuks 

Ideally get 2 left backs as well but that may be less likely, so hopefully we get Sessegnon as the RB so Thomas is down to 3rd choice LB

Don't quite get that about Leaburn being "injury prone", the sort of phrase you might well use with Chuks, but not Leaburn, who has just completed his first season, agree he suffered a bit last few games, and was maybe overplayed a bit, due to team selection options, but injury prone...🤷‍♂️

I think he was injured a fair bit while he was with us from 16-18. Which is why he kind of came out of nowhere last pre-season when many thought it would be Kanu getting the opportunities. It was probably due to him growing so much so might be less of an issue now, he’s obviously not Chuks level but I still think he’s likely to pick up a couple of injuries and will need his minutes managed 

It’s exactly why all three of Leaburn, Kanu and now perhaps Casey should all be managed with time playing. I think Miles got a raw deal last year in that respect although to his credit he came through. Doubt either Kanu or Casey are genuine first team options and should in preference both go out on loan. It’s why we need two strikers in to allow for Miles having some respite. If he’s relied on week in week out I can see him picking up injuries and hampering his development.