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Summer Transfer Rumours - Deadline Day p446
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Keep telling yourself thatBR7_addick said:
One year deal is worse than a two year deal but that’s as far as I’d go.Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.This is positive.
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I think what Hector meant was: "We didn't have the team last season, but personally I would've kept them all on as squad players."Valley11 said:Encouraging interview with Hector.
’We didn’t have the team last season but he’s (Holden) going to build a team to meet that objective (promotion)’
Presumably Hector’s decision to sign early is partly based on assurances that we’re going to have a go this year. Let’s hope he and Holden haven’t been sold any flannel by the new owners, and Holden is actually given the resources and freedom to build a promotion-winning squad.1 -
Great post. Spot on - especially the 2nd to last paragraph. Just storing up trouble for a years time. Where is the stability ? We could build a centre half pairing of Hector & Thomas and both leave next summer.Braziliance said:
We play Welling tomorrow, can joke all we want but that's where the season starts so we are ready for our opening game.cafcsinger said:
I must have missed the announcement that the season is now starting tomorrow and we're playing Orientlancashire lad said:that's see if I understand this right
we have swapped an experienced goalie for a relatively inexperienced one
we have lost Sess our LB and only have a CB as his replacement
we have swapped Clare for Manny so our defence and mid field defence is the same as the end of last season averaging a 2 goal concede a game
we have lost our top goal scorer and have a couple of untried youngsters as current replacements
we have a proved goalscorer when he is fit but no-one seems to know if he is ready for a full season
wow that's good isn't it?
It really is groundhog day, all the posts on this thread are identical year after year.
We don't sign any of the best performers in the league while rival clubs will and while they do there will be such posts as 'We were never in for him' or 'Most clubs aren't doing business right now'
The clubs who are serious either have their squad ready now or are adding players.
We have the shittest recruitment team in the whole of the EFL in terms of our stature, I am absolutely adamant on that.
Our signings will be, a left back on loan, a winger on loan, a midfielder on loan, one of the three will be our best player like the loans usually are, we will sign cast offs no one else wants and they will be billed as players we have wanted by our pony recruitment team.
We will probably finish in the region of 9th to 14th. Might sack our manager along the way, lose our loans and our players that have one year left and then do it all again next season.
For every player we sign, that isn't crocked, an ex player or someone who is championship/higher end league 1 quality (loans not included) I will donate a tenner to the upbeats
Have we learnt nothing from the past few seasons ? Squad churn after squad churn and we wonder why we are mid table.5 -
So which part of this am I wrong on?Redhenry said:
Keep telling yourself thatBR7_addick said:
One year deal is worse than a two year deal but that’s as far as I’d go.Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...
In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.This is positive.
“In contrast a one year deal is better than no deal at all, it’s better than a rival signing him, it’s better than a championship side signing him, he’s better than Inniss, he proved end of last season he was more than good enough.”
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Jones, Edun, El Mizouni, Lapado, Sessegnon
Or other targets in those positions
3 loanees (a right back, a striker and a winger) and I think that'll be us for the season
Whether that's good enough we'll have to see5 -
1 year contracts are shite FACT3
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Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT6 -
You said that yes.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACTIs it better than a 0 year contract though? Or him signing a 1 year contract with someone else?10 -
In his shoes would you sign for two years? With all the takeover uncertainty around? I certainly wouldn’t.Redhenry said:I don't agree with a lot Golfie has to say, but he has a point, one year deal for Hector is disappointing...I was surprised he signed so early in the window if I’m honest.3 -
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT1 -
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Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT13 -
Sorry are we still talking about Hector?BR7_addick said:
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
If so what injuries has he had?6 -
We wouldn’t have been saying that if that’s what we gave Watson (without an extension clause) or Aneke and were able to release themRedhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT1 -
He’s had three seasons stop start with minutes no? If it’s not down to injuries then I stand corrected 👍🏻Cafc43v3r said:
Sorry are we still talking about Hector?BR7_addick said:
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
If so what injuries has he had?0 -
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN4 -
He hasn't, where are you getting this from?BR7_addick said:
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT0 -
What's your suggestion then? That instead of putting ourselves through the pain of only having JRS for a year we should have signed a lesser player for three years? There's a reason we were able to get a player as good as him, and it's because he's a Premier League loanee. Maybe we should just pick up players based on how long they're willing to commit? Because if we'd done that I think you miiiiiiiiiiight have whined about that too.golfaddick said:
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN
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Ive just retracted on a post above.Redhenry said:
He hasn't, where are you getting this from?BR7_addick said:
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACTSo whilst you’re here is signing him on one year better than not at all?2 -
Nope he just happened to be 3rd choice and neither of the the first two never got injured.BR7_addick said:
He’s had three seasons stop start with minutes no? If it’s not down to injuries then I stand corrected 👍🏻Cafc43v3r said:
Sorry are we still talking about Hector?BR7_addick said:
Could it not be us? He’s had a bad time with injuries in recent years, we got stuffed offering Aneke a long term contract.Starinnaddick said:
Have you not taken into account that the players could be hedging their bets in case the takeover fails.Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
If so what injuries has he had?
One person said he was injury prone when we first signed him, which was wrong, and it seems to have been repeated ever since.1 -
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Sam Smith free agent, can play wide right. Scored 13 last season and 15 the year before. Sortedgolfaddick said:
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN9 -
Obviously we shouldn't have players like JRS, Cullen, Gallagher etc on loan because we will need to replace them next season. I mean it's obvious isn't it? I mean no one else uses loan players in League 1 do they?Garrymanilow said:
What's your suggestion then? That instead of putting ourselves through the pain of only having JRS for a year we should have signed a lesser player for three years? There's a reason we were able to get a player as good as him, and it's because he's a Premier League loanee. Maybe we should just pick up players based on how long they're willing to commit? Because if we'd done that I think you miiiiiiiiiiight have whined about that too.golfaddick said:
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN5 -
Well where are we now? It was successful loan spell for himself and his parent club, but the reality is we gave a Palace player a platform to increase his value and his goals didn't promote us.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
No point arguing if we would have been relegated without him as we will never know, but JRS being here didn't progress us as a club.
Only positive maybe that Premier league clubs may look at the success loan players have here (typically) and keep using us to elevate their players.
You have to see the point that loan players and one year contract extensions aren't a massive positive unless they are used to bolster an already strong squad and give us a bit of momentum on a promotion charge. Our best attacker/player last season had no longevity with this club and our best defender doesn't want to commit his long term future to the club, not the best situation0 -
Maybe Hector was given a one year contract so as not to block the path of our younger players2
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Or that’s all he wantedlancashire lad said:Maybe Hector was given a one year contract so as not to block the path of our younger players0 -
I just think Hector considers himself better than mid-table League One, and he's likely correct. Fact is given his age and lack of game time prior to joining us with the time out, he is where he is. I'm happy with a year contract, it's a year longer than Ness and Elerewe have a great role model to play alongside as well as his expertise in defence helping us out this year.
Our season hinges on a knife-edge, it all depends on whether you have faith that the rumours regarding SE7P Ltd looking to spend money on 5-6 talented signings have any legs. If they do then we should be in or around playoffs when you add those signings to Isted, Hector, Dobson, Leaburn, Fraser etc, if they don't and we continue our previous transfer targets of the last few years then we won't and it'll be another torrid time.
Let's get this takeover done and we'll see where we are at the end of the window.3 -
will be sold in january if we are not in top 6lancashire lad said:Maybe Hector was given a one year contract so as not to block the path of our younger players1 -
Plymouth's Conor Grant has signed for Port Vale.
He has been mentioned a few times in the past.0 -
Not talking about loan players - we accept that's part & parcel of League 1 football nowdays.Cafc43v3r said:
Obviously we shouldn't have players like JRS, Cullen, Gallagher etc on loan because we will need to replace them next season. I mean it's obvious isn't it? I mean no one else uses loan players in League 1 do they?Garrymanilow said:
What's your suggestion then? That instead of putting ourselves through the pain of only having JRS for a year we should have signed a lesser player for three years? There's a reason we were able to get a player as good as him, and it's because he's a Premier League loanee. Maybe we should just pick up players based on how long they're willing to commit? Because if we'd done that I think you miiiiiiiiiiight have whined about that too.golfaddick said:
Not a waste no. But we now have to replace him.charente addick said:
Yeah, we only had that JRS bloke for a year, what a waste that was!Redhenry said:1 year contracts are shite FACT
Good luck finding a wideman/winger who is going to score us 12 goals next season.
And the 1 year contract stuff is just like having a loan player. So we will be going into the new season with 7 or 8 of these 1 season wonders.
lets just see where we are in July 2024. Stable or squad rebuilding AGAIN
But signing out-of-contract players for just 1 year (and that's 2 out of 3 new signings) seems like madness to me.
But I'm in the minority & obviously wrong. So I'll try to move on & not have this discussion next season when the 5 loanees have to be replaced along with the 5 or 6 out of contract players.
Its like is all new & not happened before........5 -
Why the fuck would anyone buy him when he’s out of contract a few months later. I understand doom and gloom but ffs.bertpalmer said:
will be sold in january if we are not in top 6lancashire lad said:Maybe Hector was given a one year contract so as not to block the path of our younger players2
