Sam Lavelle - gone to Carlisle on a 2year deal (p22)

Chunes said:

SDAddick said:

ButtleJR said:

Scoham said:

Holden’s comments here make me think of Lavelle.

Not that he didn’t put the effort in because I think he did, but handling that step up in expectations and continuing to improve as a player. That might be the biggest difference between Lavelle and someone like Lockyer who did well in the Championship and has continued to progress.

https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-holden-really-comfortable-with-transfer-window-state-of-play-for-addicks/

We need to make sure we not only bring the right quality of player in but also the right mentality as well.

With Lavelle I don't think it comes down to mentality, but ability. 

Agreed, I just don't think he's quick enough, good enough in the air, or reads the game well enough. He's poor on the ball. 

I also agree. It's a struggle to pick out any real strengths in his game. I can't wrap my head around the fact Gallen said he watched him multiple times before signing him.

Probably because Gallen was telling porkies, unless you can see the pitch at Morecambe from the west stand.

Phew.  Nice guy, but a defender with no physical attributes . 

Callumcafc said:

Scoham said:

soapboxsam said:

Pleased for Sam and for Cafc in Lavelle's move to Carlisle. 
Mitchell and Deji can be options along with the 3 senior CB in Thomas, Hector and Jones.

Good luck to Sam in 44 matches next season. 

Ness too. Just a shame we don’t have any left footers, especially if we’re playing 3 CBs.

Isn’t TT left footed?

I think he's actually right footed, but can control and use both.

Unless I missed it, there's no mention of a fee being paid. I'm assuming there wasn't one?

Scoham said:

tangoflash said:

Unless I missed it, there's no mention of a fee being paid. I'm assuming there wasn't one?

Yeah Cawley confirmed no fees for Lavelle and Wollacott.

No surprise regarding Lavelle, but shocked we didn't ask a fee for Wallacott 

I assume that the transfers (for Wollacott and Lavelle) came with clauses meaning we'll get something if and when they get traded on. 

Scoham said:

tangoflash said:

Unless I missed it, there's no mention of a fee being paid. I'm assuming there wasn't one?

Yeah Cawley confirmed no fees for Lavelle and Wollacott.

That's bonkers that we didn't get anything for Wollacott. I think he could have been first choice for us this season. I understand if he views the Scottish top flight as a step up both in terms of playing level and wages, but I don't get how we wouldn't get something for him. I don't expect something massive, but I expect something. 

However it was reported in Scotland that it was an undisclosed fee for Wollacott 🤷‍♂️;
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-fourth-signing-of-the-summer-with-three-year-deal-for-ghanaian-international-4194440

SDAddick said:

Scoham said:

tangoflash said:

Unless I missed it, there's no mention of a fee being paid. I'm assuming there wasn't one?

Yeah Cawley confirmed no fees for Lavelle and Wollacott.

That's bonkers that we didn't get anything for Wollacott. I think he could have been first choice for us this season. I understand if he views the Scottish top flight as a step up both in terms of playing level and wages, but I don't get how we wouldn't get something for him. I don't expect something massive, but I expect something. 

What would we have done if they refused to pay the fee? 

Ok well keep an unhappy keeper on good wages as our backup 

Garrymanilow said:

RedChaser said:

However it was reported in Scotland that it was an undisclosed fee for Wollacott 🤷‍♂️;
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/hibs-make-fourth-signing-of-the-summer-with-three-year-deal-for-ghanaian-international-4194440

I guess £0 can be an undisclosed fee

Err no it can’t, a fee is an exchange of cash even if it’s a penny. Check out the dictionary definition Gaza and all you lolers 😉

A post on Sam Lavelle might reach 1k. I don't think the bookies ever gave odds on such an action!

I thought he was going to be the mainstay of our defence but his move to us really didn’t work out. He’s not the first for that to happen and won’t be the last. Wish him well at Carlisle. I think he’s a better player than we ever saw. 

Expect we did get small fees for Lavelle & Wollacott but prefer to say we didn’t to help us with negotiations for other players.

If people/clubs know you have money they want it.

AFKABartram said:

Oh Eddie Youds... said:

Expect we did get small fees for Lavelle & Wollacott but prefer to say we didn’t to help us with negotiations for other players.

If people/clubs know you have money they want it.

I think you’re being hopeful. It’s not as easy as people think to get players with contracts off of books, and very few fees pass in lower division transfers. May be a case of the new club taking on a future scheduled payment from the releasing club, but I doubt a purchase fee featured in either of these.

The summer window, especially in the early stages, is difficult to sell for a fee at our level. Realistically, a club like Carlisle would look at free agents and loans. So even if we wanted a minor fee, like 50k, they could go explore other options and it leaves us stuck with a player we don't want and continuing to pay his wages.  

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/24174511.carlisle-united-boss-sam-lavelle-charlton-defeat/

He got away with so many fouls (pulling/pushing/dragging) that would have been given for us! Looked to be carrying a few pints on Cumbrian Ale in him.