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Kent CCC 2023

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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Luke Fletcher with figures of 1-7 off 9.2 overs has had to hobble off the field. That is a major blow for Notts. 
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Just about had it with Compton. 

    There to score decent runs but failing this season on the whole.

    Plus important catches dropped. 

    Feeling very unhappy about the state of our squad at present and wondering how the morale is. 
    I think that, with the departure of Downton, there will be a major shake up and that might include Matt Walker. Injuries really haven't helped and having to use 23 players really isn't great but too many players are living on past glories at the moment and not enough youngsters are coming through. 
    Baffling why so many batters are out of form. And why so many are injured now. 

    There does seem to be a downturn from last season in the CC, which makes you wonder whether Gidman replacing ten Doeschate is a factor.
    In the cases of say Cox and Muyeye a batting coach might be able to help but I'm a bit loathe to blaming them when it comes to players who have been pros for over a decade - they know if they have technical issues and can recognise it by just looking at footage of themselves. Sometimes it just comes down to poor decision making not helped by constant switching from white to red ball - Cox and Denly, for example, who did OK in the Blast. Equally, Denly did well last season in the CC but was awful in 2021 when he averaged 17.57 from 14 innings.
    Players at other counties seem to be coping better than us...
    Perhaps that's the point. They are better at doing so. And better batsmen because they can do that. How many of ours average 35 in the CC in their career and how many at Surrey do so?
    Thinking about that, the likes of Pope, Burns, Sibley, Latham and Foakes haven't been playing T20 and Jacks and Abbott are the only one who have been successful in both. Compton is the only one of ours that hasn't been playing red and white ball whereas Muyeye, DBD, Denly, Billings, Leaning and Cox all have. The benefits of having a massive squad. 
    Ain't that the truth ! 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    102-2 off 41 overs at tea so 248 behind

    Geddes 36* (95)
    Leaning 10* (22)
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    edited July 2023
    Just about had it with Compton. 

    There to score decent runs but failing this season on the whole.

    Plus important catches dropped. 

    Feeling very unhappy about the state of our squad at present and wondering how the morale is. 
    I think that, with the departure of Downton, there will be a major shake up and that might include Matt Walker. Injuries really haven't helped and having to use 23 players really isn't great but too many players are living on past glories at the moment and not enough youngsters are coming through. 
    Baffling why so many batters are out of form. And why so many are injured now. 

    There does seem to be a downturn from last season in the CC, which makes you wonder whether Gidman replacing ten Doeschate is a factor.
    In the cases of say Cox and Muyeye a batting coach might be able to help but I'm a bit loathe to blaming them when it comes to players who have been pros for over a decade - they know if they have technical issues and can recognise it by just looking at footage of themselves. Sometimes it just comes down to poor decision making not helped by constant switching from white to red ball - Cox and Denly, for example, who did OK in the Blast. Equally, Denly did well last season in the CC but was awful in 2021 when he averaged 17.57 from 14 innings.
    Players at other counties seem to be coping better than us...
    Perhaps that's the point. They are better at doing so. And better batsmen because they can do that. How many of ours average 35 in the CC in their career and how many at Surrey do so?
    Thinking about that, the likes of Pope, Burns, Sibley, Latham and Foakes haven't been playing T20 and Jacks and Abbott are the only one who have been successful in both. Compton is the only one of ours that hasn't been playing red and white ball whereas Muyeye, DBD, Denly, Billings, Leaning and Cox all have. The benefits of having a massive squad. 
    Latham wasn't registered for the T20 blast, Pope would obviously have played was with England. Foakes took a little break after being dropped by England and then played one T20 but due to the balance of the side under Batty's philosophy we only play 3 batsmen and one of them must keep so Smith got the nod over Foakes. You might as well play me and you if you're gonna pick Burns and Sibley in a T20.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Just about had it with Compton. 

    There to score decent runs but failing this season on the whole.

    Plus important catches dropped. 

    Feeling very unhappy about the state of our squad at present and wondering how the morale is. 
    I think that, with the departure of Downton, there will be a major shake up and that might include Matt Walker. Injuries really haven't helped and having to use 23 players really isn't great but too many players are living on past glories at the moment and not enough youngsters are coming through. 
    Baffling why so many batters are out of form. And why so many are injured now. 

    There does seem to be a downturn from last season in the CC, which makes you wonder whether Gidman replacing ten Doeschate is a factor.
    In the cases of say Cox and Muyeye a batting coach might be able to help but I'm a bit loathe to blaming them when it comes to players who have been pros for over a decade - they know if they have technical issues and can recognise it by just looking at footage of themselves. Sometimes it just comes down to poor decision making not helped by constant switching from white to red ball - Cox and Denly, for example, who did OK in the Blast. Equally, Denly did well last season in the CC but was awful in 2021 when he averaged 17.57 from 14 innings.
    Players at other counties seem to be coping better than us...
    Perhaps that's the point. They are better at doing so. And better batsmen because they can do that. How many of ours average 35 in the CC in their career and how many at Surrey do so?
    Thinking about that, the likes of Pope, Burns, Sibley, Latham and Foakes haven't been playing T20 and Jacks and Abbott are the only one who have been successful in both. Compton is the only one of ours that hasn't been playing red and white ball whereas Muyeye, DBD, Denly, Billings, Leaning and Cox all have. The benefits of having a massive squad. 
    Latham wasn't registered for the T20 blast, Pope would obviously have played was with England. Foakes took a little break after being dropped by England and then played one T20 but due to the balance of the side under Batty's philosophy we only play 3 batsmen and one of them must keep so Smith got the nod over Foakes. You might as well play me and you if you're gonna pick Burns and Sibley in a T20.
    But that's the point I'm trying to make. Six of Kent's seven batsmen have to play in both. We don't have the luxury of those extra three or four batsmen. We don't have that choice between Smith and Foakes. Or two openers that don't play T20. Equally, we don't have Tom Curran, Sam Curran and Laurie Evans who played 47 Blast games and just one CC match between them. That is what a big squad gives you. So much so that you have to send out on loan a talented youngster like Geddes because he can't get a game. We can't even find a youngster when we have half a dozen batsmen out. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    It's raining and no play so far post tea. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Warwickshire 189-4 at close and exactly 50 ahead of Middlesex
  • Pedro45
    Pedro45 Posts: 5,820
    Ed Moore.(Minster) and James Bazeley {Sandwich )added to the Kent 50 over squad....
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Do we have a definitive list of our lads who'll be playing in the Hundred ( spit) ? 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Pedro45 said:
    Ed Moore.(Minster) and James Bazeley {Sandwich )added to the Kent 50 over squad....
    That's interesting. For those that aren't familiar with Kent club cricket, Moore is South African A and played for Minster for the last 5 seasons averaging almost 60 with the bat and bowls spin too though that is definitely the lesser of his two disciplines. Bazeley has played plenty of Big Bash cricket and is a quick bowling all rounder. This is his first season playing club cricket in England. 
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Do we have a definitive list of our lads who'll be playing in the Hundred ( spit) ? 
    As far as I am aware:

    Crawley
    Billings
    DBD
    Klaassen
    Cox
    Muyeye

    Leaving us, in theory:

    Compton
    Denly
    Leaning
    Finch
    Blake
    O'Riordan
    Evison
    Logan
    Qadri
    Gilchrist
    Quinn
    Stewart
    Singh (Jas)
    Bhuiyan
    Hogan
    Parkinson
    Moore
    Bazley
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842
    Pedro45 said:
    Ed Moore.(Minster) and James Bazeley {Sandwich )added to the Kent 50 over squad....
    That's interesting. For those that aren't familiar with Kent club cricket, Moore is South African A and played for Minster for the last 5 seasons averaging almost 60 with the bat and bowls spin too though that is definitely the lesser of his two disciplines. Bazeley has played plenty of Big Bash cricket and is a quick bowling all rounder. This is his first season playing club cricket in England. 
    A handy pair to have playing locally. I wonder if Bazley came over this summer, half expecting to get a 50 over callup?
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    Thanks, AA.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Pedro45 said:
    Ed Moore.(Minster) and James Bazeley {Sandwich )added to the Kent 50 over squad....
    That's interesting. For those that aren't familiar with Kent club cricket, Moore is South African A and played for Minster for the last 5 seasons averaging almost 60 with the bat and bowls spin too though that is definitely the lesser of his two disciplines. Bazeley has played plenty of Big Bash cricket and is a quick bowling all rounder. This is his first season playing club cricket in England. 
    A handy pair to have playing locally. I wonder if Bazley came over this summer, half expecting to get a 50 over callup?
    That is a possibility. Let's face it, anyone with decent credentials and performing well at top club level has a chance to get in our 50 over squad. Bazley played, as far as I can recall, one Kent 2s T20 this season whereas Moore hasn't played any from memory. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    And the top six are all Test hosting and Hundred hosting grounds with the biggest county squads anyway
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Geddes out without adding to his overnight score
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    The ball is absolutely hooping at Trent Bridge
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,847
    Down in Hampshire, Essex are keeping Surrey honest and will require 83 runs to win.

    Porter completes his second 5'fer of the match
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    Clark Moriarty Worrall and Foakes have either been last minute called up or strongly rumoured to be so actually 16 unavailable for Surrey. Marginally better than the 18 we lost last year.
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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    MrOneLung said:
    Down in Hampshire, Essex are keeping Surrey honest and will require 83 runs to win.

    Porter completes his second 5'fer of the match
    Rain hampering Surrey.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Middlesex need 94 runs in their second innings to beat Warwickshire
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Leaning out for 38 (100). Frustrating because all four of the batsman that have been dismissed have actually got themselves in with scores of 14, 36, 37 and 38 but not kicked on

    170-4 and 180 behind
  • billysboots
    billysboots Posts: 1,596
    Come on Blakey 

  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    184-4 when rain arrives 2 balls before lunch. 166 runs behind

    Finch 32* (82)
    Blake 16* (17)


  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,255
    So do we do a synchronised rain dance or just nominate @Fanny Fanackapan? As try as I might, I cannot see much beyond another defeat here if Notts are given time enough to engineer one.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    So do we do a synchronised rain dance or just nominate @Fanny Fanackapan? As try as I might, I cannot see much beyond another defeat here if Notts are given time enough to engineer one.
    I'm inclined to hope for a torrential downpour, lasting at least 30 hours at Edgbaston , ks.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,737
    STOP PRESS ! 

    Aussie, James Bazley has been signed for the duration of the 50 overs comp. 

    Thoughts ? 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    Pedro45 said:
    Ed Moore.(Minster) and James Bazeley {Sandwich )added to the Kent 50 over squad....
    That's interesting. For those that aren't familiar with Kent club cricket, Moore is South African A and played for Minster for the last 5 seasons averaging almost 60 with the bat and bowls spin too though that is definitely the lesser of his two disciplines. Bazeley has played plenty of Big Bash cricket and is a quick bowling all rounder. This is his first season playing club cricket in England. 
    https://www.kentcricket.co.uk/news/bazley-joins-kent-spitfires-for-metro-bank-one-day-cup/?utm_source=Kent County Cricket Club&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=14044663_JB Reveal&dm_i=1NLC,8D0XJ,B6NWUV,YGK14,1

    No official confirmation re Moore though
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    STOP PRESS ! 

    Aussie, James Bazley has been signed for the duration of the 50 overs comp. 

    Thoughts ? 
    It's convenient for all. Decent enough player who won't be stepping up much on the level he has played at in Australia be if Sheffield Shield or the Big Bash