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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic vs Wigan Athletic: Tuesday 9th April 2024: KO 19:45
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And a goalkeeper.Solidgone said:This might not be a popular opinion but I don’t think Kanu or Anderson are quite ready to hold down the first 11 selection. Both Kanu and Anderson’s work rate is unquestionable and both get top marks on their effort. But effort alone is not enough. I get fed up listening about Kanu has just slipped over, been muscled off the ball, a bad first touch etc. And this also applies to Anderson. To get out of this fucking awful league we need to replace them with stronger players that are not bullied and can give it out too. It was nonsense tonight taking off Alfie when he would have been better suited with a stronger partner. I’m not in anyway basing my opinion on just tonight’s match as our defence continues to be without a central defender that commands the back 4-3.6 -
You're not wrong. We've lost the same number of games as Blackpool in 8th, but they are 16 points better off!golfaddick said:Nathan Jones might have kept is up but how many has he won ? Drawn far too many games this season - most on the whole EFL
Only the bottom 5 have won less games than us.
We can't keep a clean sheet.
We cant take advantage when on top
Apart from the strikers no-one else can score. OG has scored more than any non-forward since Jones took over.
I certainly wont be buying a ST if this isnt rectified massively in the summer.4 -
We had a hatful of chances but not one clean strike at goal, all half hit or scuffed, very frustrating. From what I could see from the other end they had two chances and stuck them away. Dobson was class, Kanu struggled today but he’s in credit and still worked hard. Campbell and Ramsay linked up well. Lua Lua looked very rusty. Enjoyable watch anyway.8
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Mate, I'm almost 69 and I could have been on there playing it safe because I'm not up to it. We need more than that. He is supposed to add an attacking threat. The fact that he didn't is exactly why he's getting to low scores on the player marks thread.Leuth said:
No I'm saying he did play it safe, because he knew he didn't have the beating of the defenders. Rather than try and fail, he moved it back to someone else. It was exactly what he should have done given he's no longer up to itDavo55 said:
Have to politely disagree with you on this one. He contributed very little. Played it safe more often than not and don't remember him being involved in any of our most dangerous moves.Leuth said:Lua Lua getting a kicking in player marks but we created an absolute fuckload of chances with him on the field. I thought what he did well was realise he can no longer run past people, and pass to someone else instead. Sure, his legs have gone and he won't get a new contract but I don't actually think he got any decisions wrong while he was on15 -
Well that was two points lost.
A fairly comfortable first half without us really looking a consistent threat. I thought we harried and pressed really well and kept possession nicely.
We really came out of the traps second half with some half chances and Dobbo hitting the post. Then two moments of poor defending gifted them two goals and we were up against it. Luckily Wigan looked jaded and the quality of the subs we put on meant we weee going to create chances. A lovely cross from Dobson for Chuks’ goal and then we had some decent opening without having the composure to take them.Frustrating but more positives than negatives, particularly in that Dobson and Coventry are showing they can play together and are building a good understanding.1 -
I said at half-time that this looked one game too far for Kanu tonight. NJ really should have taken him off way before he did.Hartleypete said:Lua Lua, what’s the point.?
Istead fumbles again.
Missed loads of chances again.
Kanu needs a rest.
Why are we letting Dobbo go, madness.
And I totally agree with you about letting Dobson go. Complete and absolute madness. The "we won't miss Dobson, time to move on" brigade haven't been on for the last 2 games, and I doubt they will be tonight either. If anyone really believes we will be a better team without Dobson in it they are very, very mistaken.
I can only take a little bit of hope from a comment someone made on the match thread - Dobson isn't playing like a player who is leaving.5 -
He was fricking useless.Leuth said:Lua Lua getting a kicking in player marks but we created an absolute fuckload of chances with him on the field. I thought what he did well was realise he can no longer run past people, and pass to someone else instead. Sure, his legs have gone and he won't get a new contract but I don't actually think he got any decisions wrong while he was on1 -
Should have won. Will say it time and time again, it’s an absolutely travesty that Dobson will not be with us next season. Fucking mustard tonight . Andy Scott has a lot to answer for13
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Entertaining game with a disappointing result. Thought Wigan looked awful for much of it and were there for the taking. The comedic kicking of Mr Tickle and lack of communication between their defence giving them a distinctly Appletonesque feel. To our credit we created lots of opportunities and as well as the goals there were several ifs and buts moments. Ifs and buts don't win matches though, so we need to become a bit more clinical in front of goal. That, and cut out the moments of madness.1
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Because we didnt score a 2nd when on top.Lordflashheart said:How have we not won that
Because of 2 stupid defensive errors1 -
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Look, it's sad when an explosive winger loses his pace. Let's show the right amount of sad respect for Lua Lua's lost livelihood5
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The person who made that decision is in charge of our recruitment in the summer. Not convinced we will bring in the right players or let the wrong ones go.Hartleypete said:
Why are we letting Dobbo go, madness.0 -
We’ve been a nursing home for players on a down slope for too long. It’s become tiresome.Leuth said:Look, it's sad when an explosive winger loses his pace. Let's show the right amount of sad respect for Lua Lua's lost livelihood9 -
Surreal game of football, slide rule says we're not over the line but should be OK. Very disjointed back 3, jury still out on Gilesphey. Small and Ramsey look good NJ signings, taking May off is something I still can't my head around, although Tyreece was exceptional. As for Dobbo, he put in a performance that almost said give me 500 quid a week more and I'll stay, or you'll soon find out what your missing. Absolute heart and soul of the place, best captain since Kinsella.20
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Don't see what Lua Lua or Wickham bring to the table TBH....would rather see an academy product like Casey get a go......4
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Watched 3 great English teams tonight:
Man city, Arsenal on Big TV and Charlton on Lap top.
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After a few months back, golfie isbackgolfaddick said:Nathan Jones might have kept is up but how many has he won ? Drawn far too many games this season - most on the whole EFL
Only the bottom 5 have won less games than us.
We can't keep a clean sheet.
We cant take advantage when on top
Apart from the strikers no-one else can score. OG has scored more than any non-forward since Jones took over.
I certainly wont be buying a ST if this isnt rectified massively in the summer.
ladies and gentleman3 -
Are you really judging a player on 20 mins?Hartleypete said:Lua Lua, what’s the point.?
Istead fumbles again.
Missed loads of chances again.
Kanu needs a rest.
Why are we letting Dobbo go, madness.0 -
Thought we looked better when we went 4 at the back.
Dobson was class. Gillesphey has a great passing range but is making simple errors far too often.
Annoying that we completely fell asleep for 5 minutes. Can't do that next season.Ramsay could be a very good addition. Would work well in an attacking side.
Referee was even worse than the usual standard. Inconsistent and massively soft at times. Blowing at the end to stop Lua Lua crossing was the icing on the cake.Will need lots of work in the transfer window, but I do think we are finally on the right path.0 -
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Dobson was great and my MOTM.
Hector and Thomas reverted to Appleton defending tactics for their goals.
LuaLua didn’t even try and beat his man
Campbell looked effective
Ref obviously doesn’t get any attention from his Mrs at home so decided to be the pantomime villain tonight and give them every decision possible. Proper bellend.3 -
To be fair it was a extremely awful 20 minutes. If at times we want to switch to a 4-4-2 then at least Campbell can beat players, Lua Lua I doubt could beat an egg.Todds_right_hook said:
Are you really judging a player on 20 mins?Hartleypete said:Lua Lua, what’s the point.?
Istead fumbles again.
Missed loads of chances again.
Kanu needs a rest.
Why are we letting Dobbo go, madness.3 -
Can't see us extending LuaLua or Wickham after that but I actually think a decent winger and a big forward won't be too hard to come by in the summer, think we have the nucleus of something good if Dobbo sticks around, if not I'd like to see us replace him with some goals from the middle
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The fact that we were pressing, the fact we had 20 shots - seven on target is pleasing. It's progress.14
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But he's out of contract in the summer with no mention of a new one (or he isn't going to sign)Bailey said:The changes Wigan made at half time overloaded our midfield, Ramsey's poor choice of a header allowed them to break on us for the first and the second was pretty similar. There was a few tired performances out there but Dobson, Coventry and Small kept us going. Positive of the night ? Tyreece Campbell looking hungry again.0 -
Two points thrown away, their second goal was ridiculous from us. Still an enjoyable game. I thought TC was outstanding when he came on.0
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Although we only had half chances after drawing level, it looked harder for chucks to blaze over the bar from all of two yards out than to score.Davo55 said:Well, the script for that one must have been written by a lover of farce.
After a low key first half the Addicks created enough opportunities to win several games. But our old defensive frailties meant we had to come from behind to gain a draw. Further half chances to win it didn’t quite fall our way so we have to be content with an entertaining point.
On the plus side, Hector strong again, Ramsey did well, Dobbo outstanding in midfield, Chuks made a difference again.
On the downside, Dan Kanu is looking jaded and needs a rest. Didn’t see anything like enough from LuLua to suggest that he’ll get a contract offer.
As you say an entertaining game but left feeling slightly cheated with a draw but with a modicum of relief that we hadn't lost and at least we gave it everything trying to snatch a winner.2 -
Surreal opposition too. Mr Tickle in goal, three Smiths and a bloke called Clare.Rock Spectacle said:Surreal game of football...10 -
Weird game of football. Most of the first half felt like a friendly, with us the side that did an early and more effective pre-season. Wigan scoring at least made it come alive, though I couldn’t believe that we were actually losing.I don’t think Chuks missed a sitter. From where I was it looked really fizzed on and quite high.Ref was a pompous, attention seeking dickhead.8
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swordfish said:
You're not wrong. We've lost the same number of games as Blackpool in 8th, but they are 16 points better off!golfaddick said:Nathan Jones might have kept is up but how many has he won ? Drawn far too many games this season - most on the whole EFL
Only the bottom 5 have won less games than us.
We can't keep a clean sheet.
We cant take advantage when on top
Apart from the strikers no-one else can score. OG has scored more than any non-forward since Jones took over.
I certainly wont be buying a ST if this isnt rectified massively in the summer.
But the difference would be that the way Nathan has got the team playing now would mean we wouldn’t have lost all those games and we would have picked up draws and wins instead of losses and a few more wins instead of those we drew2
