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  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    DaveMehmet said:
    InspectorSands said:
    Gribbo said:
    Living in Westerham now and seriously considering starting a micropub, as all the existing pubs are far too heavily geared towards food. I find it awkward standing in a bar area, having a drink while there are people sitting at arse level, 3 foot behind me, trying to act all sophisticated having a 3 course meal. 

    Really do think that a little micropub could do well in a town like this
    The Real Ale Way (opposite Hayes station) did have a place in Westerham but it only lasted a couple of years - unfortunately it opened only a few months before the pandemic.

    It was a nice place - it used to be a funeral parlour, so they already had a cold room at the back to keep the beer...

     https://www1.camra.org.uk/pubs/real-ale-way-westerham-128514
    Sounded like a good place to go for a stiff drink 
    It was a dead cert they wouldn’t survive.
  • alan dugdale
    alan dugdale Posts: 3,083
    Never ran out of spirits.
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,609
    Radostanradical said:
    For anyone interested I popped in to the Royal Oak (Polly clean stairs) and the new landlord confirmed to me that they are having work done out the back to turn the part which was previously the nursery in to a playground for kids. Hopefully that will increase the number of customers.
    Stopped in the other Saturday pint of Fosters £5.60. Needs cheaper beer not a playground. 
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,622
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    I saw a very similar post to this on a Facebook group (London pubs or Living in SE London can't remember which). I was interested as we lived in Eltham from 98-05.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    The Bankers Draft came (and went?) between then and now.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,622
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.

    Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,276
    HastingsRed said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    I saw a very similar post to this on a Facebook group (London pubs or Living in SE London can't remember which). I was interested as we lived in Eltham from 98-05.
    Derelictlonodn.com has loads of pub on it, not sure how up to date it is.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    edited August 2024
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,566
    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2024/08/15/lewisham-way-pub-reopening-set-to-be-decided/

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  • Alicanteaddicks
    Alicanteaddicks Posts: 127
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    You could get a decent pint of Guinness or Hurlimans if you were brave , in the  Catholic Club next to the Church.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,622
    Alicanteaddicks said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    You could get a decent pint of Guinness or Hurlimans if you were brave , in the  Catholic Club next to the Church.

    Ah yes, that was the 13th watering hole.

  • BeerandFootball
    BeerandFootball Posts: 22
    The Monty Club
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,764
    man_at_milletts said: 
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    The Castle
    Park Tavern
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey - now Macdonald’s *Bastards*
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths) - still there
    The White Hart - still there
    The Chequers - opened as Draughts PH around 15-20 years ago
    The Kings Arms - knocked down and redeveloped. Footprint is now Turkish restaurant with flats above.
    The Crown - now micro pub The Rusty Bucket
    The Greyhound - last I heard was squatters using it
    The Carpenters Arms - knocked down and redeveloped. Footprint was next, now a gym. The ‘Carpenters Arms Path’ exists next to the site.
    The Rising Sun - still there
    The Man of Kent - Closed. Think it is part of the fire station now.
    Eltham Conservative Club. - now the woodcroft club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
    As suede says, the castle (now kfc) and park tavern (still there but very different from years gone by) are the ones missing.
    see in your quote for info on others as I understand it.
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,764
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,427
    SuedeAdidas said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
    Sultan?
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,764
    paulbaconsarnie said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
    Sultan?
    Yup. That’s it 👍🏼
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,913
    edited August 2024
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    The Rose of Lee was far too far to walk..! 

    (And you needed to walk past Spice of Life, which was hard to do).

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  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    SuedeAdidas said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
    The Sultan.
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    SporadicAddick said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    The Rose of Lee was far too far to walk..! 

    (And you needed to walk past Spice of Life, which was hard to do).
    2 mins from where MrsH lived in Gilmore Road.
  • HastingsRed
    HastingsRed Posts: 1,613
    The Kaleidoscope and the Former Hither Green Pub | Running Past (wordpress.com)
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,638
    HastingsRed said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
    The Sultan.
    It was the place to swing 
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,934
    DaveMehmet said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    HastingsRed said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman. 

    this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-

    New Tigers Head (gone)
    Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
    Prince Arthur (gone)
    Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
    The Swan (now a bar)
    The Greyhound (gone)
    The Royal Oak (gone)
    The Dacre Arms (still there)
    The Woodman (gone)
    And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.
    What was the other boozer on the left just coming into Lewisham from Lee. 

    Think it’s where Nando now is. 

    Held on for years but never seemed to have any punters. 
    The Sultan.
    It was the place to swing 
    Oh that's poor!


  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,566
    https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2024/08/21/peckham-pub-revamp-detail-submitted-after-demolition-abandoned/
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,619
    edited August 2024
    man_at_milletts said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.

    Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.
    You also missed off the Castle, closed when they built the Sainsbury's, where the KFC now is.


  • Alicanteaddicks
    Alicanteaddicks Posts: 127
    Rob7Lee said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.

    Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.
    You also missed off the Castle, closed when they built the Sainsbury's, where the KFC now is.


      Used to have a Charlton connection 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,534
    Alicanteaddicks said:
    Rob7Lee said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street.  They were, and please add them if I've missed any.

    The Yorkshire Grey
    Eltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)
    The White Hart
    The Chequers
    The Kings Arms
    The Crown
    The Greyhound
    The Carpenters Arms
    The Rising Sun
    The Man of Kent
    Eltham Conservative Club.

    How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.

    My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.

    Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.
    You also missed off the Castle, closed when they built the Sainsbury's, where the KFC now is.


      Used to have a Charlton connection 
    Thought the 161 from Charlton continued down Court Road to Chislehurst?
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,411
    Wasn’t there a pub beyond The Rising Sun on the left before or just after Southend Crescent?

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