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Certainly wasn't for the faint hearted.Alicanteaddicks said:
Used to have a Charlton connectionRob7Lee said:
You also missed off the Castle, closed when they built the Sainsbury's, where the KFC now is.man_at_milletts said:man_at_milletts said:As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street. They were, and please add them if I've missed any.The Yorkshire GreyEltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)The White HartThe ChequersThe Kings ArmsThe CrownThe GreyhoundThe Carpenters ArmsThe Rising SunThe Man of KentEltham Conservative Club.How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.
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It was a little rough, but not too bad, I knew quite a few of the regulars and the guy that ran the fruit and veg stall outside, his Saturday boy was a family friend and an ABA boxing champ so never really had any issues, there was the odd fight, but generally was OK.Baldybonce said:
Certainly wasn't for the faint hearted.Alicanteaddicks said:
Used to have a Charlton connectionRob7Lee said:
You also missed off the Castle, closed when they built the Sainsbury's, where the KFC now is.man_at_milletts said:man_at_milletts said:As a young lad living on Eltham Hill back in the 60's I believe (my dad said anyway) that there were 11 places you could drink from the Yorkshire Grey roundabout to the top of Eltham High Street. They were, and please add them if I've missed any.The Yorkshire GreyEltham Hill Social (Next to the old swimming baths)The White HartThe ChequersThe Kings ArmsThe CrownThe GreyhoundThe Carpenters ArmsThe Rising SunThe Man of KentEltham Conservative Club.How many are still there? I know the Post Office was a new addition, but I haven't been back to Eltham for a few years now.My favourite was The Crown, run by Dolly back then.
Whoops I missed off the Park Tavern which was my Mum and Dad's favourite which makes 12, and I'm pretty sure there were 13 in total. A nice easy pub crawl in the day.0 -
The London & Rye, the Catford Wetherspoons, closed on Sunday night. The building was recently up for sale. Went past last night and it was all lit up as if it was still open...1
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I used the Castle 35 years+ ago and I always had a chuckle cos the Guvnor had his CAFC tatt on his knuckles while the pub, like Eltham, had lurched to the Dark side.
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Lovely few beers sat in Long Pond today6
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Just popped in here for one, had never been and always threatened to go in there.
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was.
Woolwich is an interesting place nowadays.2 -
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The old goldfish bowl.ElfsborgAddick said:
Just popped in here for one, had never been and always threatened to go in there.
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was.
Woolwich is an interesting place nowadays.1 -
InspectorSands said:
The Real Ale Way (opposite Hayes station) did have a place in Westerham but it only lasted a couple of years - unfortunately it opened only a few months before the pandemic.Gribbo said:Living in Westerham now and seriously considering starting a micropub, as all the existing pubs are far too heavily geared towards food. I find it awkward standing in a bar area, having a drink while there are people sitting at arse level, 3 foot behind me, trying to act all sophisticated having a 3 course meal.
Really do think that a little micropub could do well in a town like this
It was a nice place - it used to be a funeral parlour, so they already had a cold room at the back to keep the beer...
https://www1.camra.org.uk/pubs/real-ale-way-westerham-128514
Knew the owner very well; he was landlord of The Freelands Tavern (my local) in Bromley North. Opened micro pubs in West Wickham and Hayes I believe. Not sure if either are still going.0 -
I’m here now for the first time. What a pub! Big, clean sky sports, dart board. I couldn’t ask for any more.ElfsborgAddick said:
Just popped in here for one, had never been and always threatened to go in there.
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was.
Woolwich is an interesting place nowadays.Add the dial Arch pub on the list in Woolwich I will be coming a lot more times here, over drinking in Charlton.2 -
Plus £5:25 for a pint of Amstel and Pork Scratchings1
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There’s now a petition up and running for this:SuedeAdidas said:My local - The Prince Frederick is up for sale.
https://www.change.org/p/preserve-the-historic-prince-frederick-public-house-as-a-community-meeting-place/exp/v2/cl_/mit-490219374-10/v2/27264084?recruiter=27264084&recruited_by_id=59f7c930-d29b-012f-5fbd-4040f855b16c&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=take_next_step&utm_medium=copylink&utm_content=mit-490219374-10%3Av2
if the CL family could sign and share it would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏼.0 -
Thanks all 😄SuedeAdidas said:
There’s now a petition up and running for this:SuedeAdidas said:My local - The Prince Frederick is up for sale.
https://www.change.org/p/preserve-the-historic-prince-frederick-public-house-as-a-community-meeting-place/exp/v2/cl_/mit-490219374-10/v2/27264084?recruiter=27264084&recruited_by_id=59f7c930-d29b-012f-5fbd-4040f855b16c&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=take_next_step&utm_medium=copylink&utm_content=mit-490219374-10%3Av2
if the CL family could sign and share it would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏼.0 -
Signed.
What's the plan? Are locals planning on chipping in to buy it as a community pub?1 -
Off_it said:Signed.
What's the plan? Are locals planning on chipping in to buy it as a community pub?Thanks 👍🏼I’m not sure - I think the initial idea is to try and get some assurances from the council regarding denying change of use if necessary.I think Greene King are hoping to sell it to continue as a pub….but you can never be sure.0 -
Cheers.SuedeAdidas said:Off_it said:Signed.
What's the plan? Are locals planning on chipping in to buy it as a community pub?Thanks 👍🏼I’m not sure - I think the initial idea is to try and get some assurances from the council regarding denying change of use if necessary.I think Greene King are hoping to sell it to continue as a pub….but you can never be sure.
I imagine Greene King might want that. But who knows what's in the mind of whoever buys it?0 -
https://agg.uk.com/sites/default/files/2024-06/Prince Frederick, Bromley - Particulars.pdf
It's up for £550,000. Looks like a lot needs doing to it.1 -
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Installed their fire alarm 25 odd years goElfsborgAddick said:
Just popped in here for one, had never been and always threatened to go in there.
It's a lot bigger than I thought it was.
Woolwich is an interesting place nowadays.0 -
And not much protection in the “Planning” section of the document it seems.Off_it said:https://agg.uk.com/sites/default/files/2024-06/Prince Frederick, Bromley - Particulars.pdf
It's up for £550,000. Looks like a lot needs doing to it.0 -
Radio 5 Live 10am....Nickey Campbell show discussing the demise of pubs.0
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Item on BBC News. Interview with successful landlord and landlady who are really worried about the budget. Fearing massive rise in bills may force them, and many others, out of business. The future of so many pubs are in the hands of the government, and I wouldn't trust them as far as I could spit.0
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BUMP.SuedeAdidas said:
There’s now a petition up and running for this:SuedeAdidas said:My local - The Prince Frederick is up for sale.
https://www.change.org/p/preserve-the-historic-prince-frederick-public-house-as-a-community-meeting-place/exp/v2/cl_/mit-490219374-10/v2/27264084?recruiter=27264084&recruited_by_id=59f7c930-d29b-012f-5fbd-4040f855b16c&utm_source=share_petition&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&utm_term=take_next_step&utm_medium=copylink&utm_content=mit-490219374-10%3Av2
if the CL family could sign and share it would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏼.0 -
Signed1
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Lived in Claymill House, knew the Raglan well!clive said:0 -
The OTH re-opened last Thursday. A friend of some friends of mine, Rob, is now running it.HastingsRed said:
And after the Woodman there was Sports (Rose of Lee) Mrs H lived around the corner from The Rose of Lee when I first met her (1987) been in all of the above except the New Tigers Head.SporadicAddick said:On a similar theme, and going in the other direction from Eltham Hill towards Lewisham there was a proliferation of pubs in Lee, all pretty much in stumbling distance of each other - The two Tiger's Heads, the Prince Arthur and Duke of Edinburgh within a couple of hundred yards of each other - The Swan, The Greyhound and the Royal Oak all on one short street within spitting distance of The Dacre Arms and The Woodman.
this was in the late 80's / Early 90s:-
New Tigers Head (gone)
Old Tigers Head (maybe gone)
Prince Arthur (gone)
Duke of Edinburgh (still there)
The Swan (now a bar)
The Greyhound (gone)
The Royal Oak (gone)
The Dacre Arms (still there)
The Woodman (gone)
He's put real ale back in and is doing reasonable food - the Sunday roast was great. He's priced it to under-cut the Northbrook.5
