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Managerial sackings, comings and goings

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    Aren't things bad enough already for them?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    That shows the drug of football, that someone like Hughes would take over a club in such a desperate situation.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    That shows the drug of football, that someone like Hughes would take over a club in such a desperate situation.
    Nothing to lose.  They are in a mess now and if he doesn't get them out of it people will say the club was too far gone before he joined.

    If he does keep them up then he's done a great job.

    Plus he was unemployed and now he's getting paid.
  • Honestly thought he was still at Bradford!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    That shows the drug of football, that someone like Hughes would take over a club in such a desperate situation.
    Nothing to lose.  They are in a mess now and if he doesn't get them out of it people will say the club was too far gone before he joined.

    If he does keep them up then he's done a great job.

    Plus he was unemployed and now he's getting paid.
    He surely doesn't need the money though, and could easily get some TV pundit work if he wanted.

    Admirable in a way.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited February 7
    That shows the drug of football, that someone like Hughes would take over a club in such a desperate situation.

    Agreed.
    Mark Hughes is 61 and comfortable financially.
    He could holiday with family and play golf, with some punditry similar to Curbs 16/1.

    The English out post of Carlisle at the North west end of England and the southern most end of league 2.
    The drug and addiction of football that made both Roy Hodgson and Neil Warnock come back for at least one more fix.

    I assume Hughes feels he could be the Sparky 🤦🏻‍♂️to jolt Carlisle out of danger.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,612
    edited February 7
    That shows the drug of football, that someone like Hughes would take over a club in such a desperate situation.
    Opting to have a relegation fight with Nigel Atkins (oh how the mighty have fallen).
  • Two of the three promoted teams have now sacked managers. That seems crazy to me as the odds on a team getting promoted and then having to consolidate are high.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    MarcusH26 said:
    Been on a terrible run. Warne has a great record of getting teams promoted from L1, but has never kept a team up, and even struggled this season with a much bigger club (Derby) than Rotherham in the Championship.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    edited February 7
    Not too surprising, just shows the gap now.

    Oxford United needed Gary Rowett who's a bit of a Championship expert to navigate them. Believe they also start more or less, a mostly changed team from the team that won the play-offs. 

    Portsmouth have had a massive overhaul in their team since opening week. Results have been on the up since. 

    Now Derby are making a drastic change. 

    The gap just seems to get wider each season. I think only Birmingham stand a chance of all the teams that could go up this season. All the rest of us would be relegation favourites. 
  • Not too surprising, just shows the gap now.

    Oxford United needed Gary Rowett who's a bit of a Championship expert to navigate them. Believe they also start more or less, a mostly changed team from the team that won the play-offs. 

    Portsmouth have had a massive overhaul in their team since opening week. Results have been on the up since. 

    Now Derby are making a drastic change. 

    The gap just seems to get wider each season. I think only Birmingham stand a chance of all the teams that could go up this season. All the rest of us would be relegation favourites. 
    In summary, football is becoming shit!!!!! The same team has won the premier league 5 years running (won’t make it 6) and for the second year running, there is a strong possibility that the three promoted teams are going down, although one might survive.

    the premier league is a closed shop!!

    something needs to be done to level the playing field but I haven’t got a clue how this would happen.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgmyd3p1mpvo

    Derby want John Eustace as their new manager. That he's clearly interested in swapping a playoff chasing Blackburn for bottom 3 Derby suggests all isn't well between him and the Blackburn owners, And a certain Steve Waggott...
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,612
    edited February 10
    Not too surprising, just shows the gap now.

    Oxford United needed Gary Rowett who's a bit of a Championship expert to navigate them. Believe they also start more or less, a mostly changed team from the team that won the play-offs. 

    Portsmouth have had a massive overhaul in their team since opening week. Results have been on the up since. 

    Now Derby are making a drastic change. 

    The gap just seems to get wider each season. I think only Birmingham stand a chance of all the teams that could go up this season. All the rest of us would be relegation favourites. 
    In summary, football is becoming shit!!!!! The same team has won the premier league 5 years running (won’t make it 6)* and for the second year running, there is a strong possibility that the three promoted teams are going down**, although one might survive.

    the premier league is a closed shop!!

    something needs to be done to level the playing field but I haven’t got a clue how this would happen.
    Want to make that point the Premier League becoming a two horse race is the more accurate. (though the two there at the moment aren't City and Liverpool)

    We have some unwoken giants (in Forest and Villa) breaking into the 'top six'. (With Man Utd and Tottenham having poor seasons).

    Bournmouth (with a capacity: 11,379) could be a European team next year. That is not even mentioning Newcastle.

    ** I am starting to 
    agree with that (due to Everton and Wolves rehiring wisely).
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgmyd3p1mpvo

    Derby want John Eustace as their new manager. That he's clearly interested in swapping a playoff chasing Blackburn for bottom 3 Derby suggests all isn't well between him and the Blackburn owners, And a certain Steve Waggott...
    It also reflects that he's from the midlands, has played for Derby twice and may well wish to move closer to home. Plus in all honestly hardly anyone expects Blackburn to get promoted and Derby may offer a better salary.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764

  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,952
    edited February 11

    Derby is a very strange move from Eustace.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    By all accounts Eustace doesn't trust the owners (the infamous Venky's). They received almost £30m for Wharton and Szmodics (27 Championship goals last season) and spent a pittance of that in new transfers. He had a meeting asking for certain assurances (presumably to do with future investment) and didn't get them whereas Derby sold him the manager's position as a long term project. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    By all accounts Eustace doesn't trust the owners (the infamous Venky's). They received almost £30m for Wharton and Szmodics (27 Championship goals last season) and spent a pittance of that in new transfers. He had a meeting asking for certain assurances (presumably to do with future investment) and didn't get them whereas Derby sold him the manager's position as a long term project. 
    I can understand not trusting the Venkys, and looking for better clubs. 

    But Derby are in terrible form, and in real danger of relegation. The window has passed, so you can't sign new players. It just seems bizarre to choose to go to a club with a high chance of relegation, and without an especially big budget either, so even if they do stay up, would be unlikely to be promotion candidates.
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,767
    edited February 11
    By all accounts Eustace doesn't trust the owners (the infamous Venky's). They received almost £30m for Wharton and Szmodics (27 Championship goals last season) and spent a pittance of that in new transfers. He had a meeting asking for certain assurances (presumably to do with future investment) and didn't get them whereas Derby sold him the manager's position as a long term project. 
    I can understand not trusting the Venkys, and looking for better clubs. 

    But Derby are in terrible form, and in real danger of relegation. The window has passed, so you can't sign new players. It just seems bizarre to choose to go to a club with a high chance of relegation, and without an especially big budget either, so even if they do stay up, would be unlikely to be promotion candidates.
    Perhaps Eustace recognises that if he doesn't take Blackburn up (they've lost five of their last six in all competitions) then he will be sacked by the Venky's and that might happen anyway even if they are promoted - they refused to extend his contract beyond next July by all accounts so he will be swapping an 18 month contract at Blackburn for one of three or even four year duration at Derby. He's been here before of course - who could forget what the Birmingham owners did to him, when he was doing a great job, just to bring in Wayne Rooney who, predictably to all but the owners, turned into a disaster in lasting just 15 games. Equally, Jon Dahl Tomasson left Blackburn for similar broken promises when he said this:

    "I told the club that it wasn't the project I signed up for. I told them that it was a different situation, not what I signed up for and I asked if they wanted to find another head coach for this project."

    Eustace, presumably, has a bit more faith that in the Derby board and is guaranteed a job even if they do get relegated. He is from the midlands and played for Derby for two years so knows about the club too. But, ultimately, I think it's all down to security, trust and the devil he knows.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    By all accounts Eustace doesn't trust the owners (the infamous Venky's). They received almost £30m for Wharton and Szmodics (27 Championship goals last season) and spent a pittance of that in new transfers. He had a meeting asking for certain assurances (presumably to do with future investment) and didn't get them whereas Derby sold him the manager's position as a long term project. 
    Eustace won’t be coming to us then in the foreseeable 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Didn’t he finish his playing career at Derby too? 

    Maybe keen to go back.
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,612
    edited February 13
    Confirmed now
    John Eustace has left Blackburn Rovers to become the new head coach at former club Derby County (who he previously had two spells with as a player).
    Wonder who Blackburn are going to appoint?
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,612
    Didn’t he finish his playing career at Derby too? 

    Maybe keen to go back.
    While we are disappointed by his decision to leave at this crucial stage of the season, we fully understand that the opportunity to move closer to his family and return to a former club played a significant role in his choice.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Perfect job for Wayne Rooney
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,881
    edited February 13
    Perfect job for Wayne Rooney
    Overrated. I would go for the gerrard and Beale combo. They can both settle in the north west, ready for the Liverpool gig 😬
  • JustFloydRoad
    JustFloydRoad Posts: 1,612
    edited February 13
    Perfect job for Wayne Rooney
    Overrated. I would go for the gerrard and Beale combo. They can both settle in the north west, ready for the Liverpool gig 😬
    They reckon they both (Rooney and Gerrard) are heading up to Rangers.
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    Perfect job for Wayne Rooney
    Overrated. I would go for the gerrard and Beale combo. They can both settle in the north west, ready for the Liverpool gig 😬
    Beale is a scumbag and walks out of clubs at the drop of a hat. Hope him and Rooney get nowhere near managing a club again 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cgmyd3p1mpvo

    Derby want John Eustace as their new manager. That he's clearly interested in swapping a playoff chasing Blackburn for bottom 3 Derby suggests all isn't well between him and the Blackburn owners, And a certain Steve Waggott...
    It also reflects that he's from the midlands, has played for Derby twice and may well wish to move closer to home. Plus in all honestly hardly anyone expects Blackburn to get promoted and Derby may offer a better salary.
    I called it.