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Millenic Alli joins on a four year deal

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  • Redvalleyeast
    Redvalleyeast Posts: 5,240
    Some of the comments online form Luton and Pompey fans aren't great but to be honest i don't really take too much notice of what other fans say. 

    Players can sometimes struggle to show their full potential at a club or under a certain manager and then do really at another with a different manager. We've signed players in the past i thought would be great and they've turned out to be shit, and we've signed players that other clubs fans have slated and they're turned out to be decent.

    Last season we all had high hopes for Apter and were all pretty much unanimously unimpressed with the Fevrier signing, but which one worked out better? 

    We also need to factor in that if he was already a very good player at this level then he'd cost 5m+ and not signing for us. Our budget isn't huge so we have to take some gambles, hopefully he works out.
    Exactly this. Can you imagine the comments from Charlton fans if/when TC moves on.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,889
    jose said:
    I don't see Nathan Jones tolerating anything less than a player that gives everything they have whilst on the pitch.
    If you look at Aptor, it seems that sometimes Jones does not find these things out until the deal is done and dusted and they are on the pitch!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,889
    AndyG said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Chunes said:
    Dunno why but I’m not feeling this transfer. Was expecting an up shift in quality and spend after we managed to stay up and we are just not investing the required quality to stay out of trouble IMO.
    This is also my concern. Karlan aside, we don't appear to have improved our quality going forwards or in the middle of the pitch. I thought we'd get a bigger injection. 
    The window hasn’t closed yet. How do you know we’ve finished spending? 
    Have we really started spending, I say that tongue in cheek as in comparative terms to the quality required.
    Well exactly. 

    The rumours are that the budget is the same as last year so you’d hope to see more investment. 

    I’ll be disappointed if and when that hasn’t happened at the end of the window 
    It might not be anything to do with budget maybe the players we want don’t want to join us ? You can’t force a player to join 
    If there are Premier League loans or purchases, it may not be feasible to bring them in till the last few days of the windows, whilst they finalise their squads.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 6,094
    edited July 27
    Know next to nothing of him but going off of Pompey fans reviews it sounds a bit more to the meh side when they talk about his off days being proper off but its an attacking player option that we need. 

    Apter being mentioned as one of our wing options by Jones give me hope that he still has a future here, these two alternating will be a fun watch.  
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,748
    Kap10 said:
    AndyG said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Chunes said:
    Dunno why but I’m not feeling this transfer. Was expecting an up shift in quality and spend after we managed to stay up and we are just not investing the required quality to stay out of trouble IMO.
    This is also my concern. Karlan aside, we don't appear to have improved our quality going forwards or in the middle of the pitch. I thought we'd get a bigger injection. 
    The window hasn’t closed yet. How do you know we’ve finished spending? 
    Have we really started spending, I say that tongue in cheek as in comparative terms to the quality required.
    Well exactly. 

    The rumours are that the budget is the same as last year so you’d hope to see more investment. 

    I’ll be disappointed if and when that hasn’t happened at the end of the window 
    It might not be anything to do with budget maybe the players we want don’t want to join us ? You can’t force a player to join 
    If there are Premier League loans or purchases, it may not be feasible to bring them in till the last few days of the windows, whilst they finalise their squads.
    Especially this summer when most top clubs have half their squads still resting after the world cup so are using a lot of kids to play in friendlies.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,812
    I don’t know about this particular player.
    However taken generally, not specific to one individual with an agenda, I think the view of opposition fans about a player who has played for them is valid.
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,692
    Just found out ole Milli fancies himself a YouTuber and has uploaded a behind the scenes of his signing if anyone wants to learn more about the lad https://youtube.com/@millenic.allitv?si=Pa8ARunQDpHYrOF2
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,360
    edited July 27
    Gillis said:
    He was actually born and raised in Ireland, though, unlike Connor Coventry, Josh Cullen, Harry Arter and tha other Irish players of that ilk. Moved to England when he was 14.

    I'm surprised Millenic doesn't have a broad Irish accent if he spent his first 14 years in Ireland ?
    I see he was born in Dublin but he sounds as if he spent less time in Ireland and longer than 12 years in England🤔


  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,415
    Just found out ole Milli fancies himself a YouTuber and has uploaded a behind the scenes of his signing if anyone wants to learn more about the lad https://youtube.com/@millenic.allitv?si=Pa8ARunQDpHYrOF2
    Seems a likeable guy, good taste in music, welcome Milli.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,812
    For most people accents are ‘fixed’ around the age of 13.
    So it is no surprise that because he arrived in Great Britain around that age his accent became somewhat variable.
    Curtis Fleming has a lovely accent. Yet he was born in Manchester.

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,360
    jose said:
    For most people accents are ‘fixed’ around the age of 13.
    So it is no surprise that because he arrived in Great Britain around that age his accent became somewhat variable.
    Curtis Fleming has a lovely accent. Yet he was born in Manchester.

    I can tell Alli has been influenced by his time in the North west of England with some of his pronunciations but let's hope he can do his talking on the field as well as off it. 🤞🏻👏🏻
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,360
    edited July 27
    Wide players/wingers at this level are all inconsistent. That’s why they play at this level. Any wide men that can produce quality every game is not going to be found at Championship level.

    That’s the intriguing thing about them is that they can have a blinder one week and an absolute mare the next game. 

    Lloyd Sam, Kyle Reid, Blackett Taylor all capable of the outrageous and all capable of dross.

    So reviews of him will be very similar - capable but inconsistent. Let’s hope for more of the former than the latter.

    Nail on head.

    Has there ever been more than a handful of wingers in the history of the game that are consistently good every single game?

    The only Charlton player that was consistently good and played wideish was Graham Stuart and he wasn't a winger.
    I recall that Cliff Jones was very consistent ... it was a while back though and he was probably helped by 2,3,5.



    Back in the days of Cliff Jones if you were a winger you used your pace to go on the outside and cross into the area where at Spurs, Bobby Smith would attack the ball with his head. 
    No defensive responsibility, or being double marked, just one slow full back to go past unlike today where most full backs or wing backs have pace.

    Alf Ramsey picked 4 wingers in his squad and didn't use any of them once the KO stage was reached.
    Alf used Young Alan Ball in a roaming role.

    Steve Copell was one of the first 'wingers' to be adaptable with his play with more defensive play coming into the game by widemen.

    You really can't compare the modern day 'Wingers' with the likes of Cliff Jones or Tom Finney. 
  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,386
    Sword65pf said:
    Chunes said:
    Dunno why but I’m not feeling this transfer. Was expecting an up shift in quality and spend after we managed to stay up and we are just not investing the required quality to stay out of trouble IMO.
    This is also my concern. Karlan aside, we don't appear to have improved our quality going forwards or in the middle of the pitch. I thought we'd get a bigger injection. 
    The window hasn’t closed yet. How do you know we’ve finished spending? 
    Have we really started spending, I say that tongue in cheek as in comparative terms to the quality required.
    Well exactly. 

    The rumours are that the budget is the same as last year so you’d hope to see more investment. 

    I’ll be disappointed if and when that hasn’t happened at the end of the window 
    Sichenje was brought forward from this summers budget to January. So should add that fee in if we're counting spend.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,577
    edited July 27
    Unless we get much better midfield signings, it will be a painful season, especially if Kayne And Lloyd go, which seems increasingly likely.

    We don’t seem to be improving the quality of our squad.


  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,894
    BigDiddy said:
    Unless we get much better midfield signings, it will be a painful season, especially if Kayne And Lloyd go, which seems increasingly likely.

    We don’t seem to be improving the quality of our squad.



    I'd not be surprised with Ramsay but what makes you think Jones will be out the door.
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,577
    BigDiddy said:
    Unless we get much better midfield signings, it will be a painful season, especially if Kayne And Lloyd go, which seems increasingly likely.

    We don’t seem to be improving the quality of our squad.



    I'd not be surprised with Ramsay but what makes you think Jones will be out the door.
    Of course, I don’t know, but he is on the final year of his contract and apparently other clubs like West Ham are after him.

    I hope he staya, but the vibes this window are not great.


  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,522
    Appreciate the recency bias with comments from regarding his time at Luton and Pompey but just for balance my Exeter supporting mate says he’s very good, was mistreated at Luton. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,894
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:
    Unless we get much better midfield signings, it will be a painful season, especially if Kayne And Lloyd go, which seems increasingly likely.

    We don’t seem to be improving the quality of our squad.



    I'd not be surprised with Ramsay but what makes you think Jones will be out the door.
    Of course, I don’t know, but he is on the final year of his contract and apparently other clubs like West Ham are after him.

    I hope he staya, but the vibes this window are not great.



    Without doubting your word, I would have thought if West Ham were after him they would have bought him by now.
    Agree totally about the transfer window.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 30,894
    Appreciate the recency bias with comments from regarding his time at Luton and Pompey but just for balance my Exeter supporting mate says he’s very good, was mistreated at Luton. 

    I'd be good if I played for Exeter.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,793
    Appreciate the recency bias with comments from regarding his time at Luton and Pompey but just for balance my Exeter supporting mate says he’s very good, was mistreated at Luton. 
    Greatest respect to Exeter their a newly relegated L2.  Care about the opinions of teams nearer our level much more. 

    That being said a 1M fee with 500k potential add ons considering how Tanto and Apter have turned out Alli has got a free hit would take some doing to be much worse 

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  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,522
    Appreciate the recency bias with comments from regarding his time at Luton and Pompey but just for balance my Exeter supporting mate says he’s very good, was mistreated at Luton. 
    Greatest respect to Exeter their a newly relegated L2.  Care about the opinions of teams nearer our level much more. 

    That being said a 1M fee with 500k potential add ons considering how Tanto and Apter have turned out Alli has got a free hit would take some doing to be much worse 
    They finished 16th in league one when Alli was there. Wiki says 13 goals in 35 games through 23/24 and 24/25 

    Looks decent enough and shouldn't be ignored.
  • ct_addick
    ct_addick Posts: 4,729
    I followed Alli at Pompey and had mentioned in some other posts he would be a good pick up. So I am happy with this signing. Still need a midfield general though. 
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,945
    edited July 28
    ct_addick said:
    We have bought pace with the Alli and Grant signings which we were missing last season….need a creative mid now!
    Absolutely. The only thing our current midfield create is soiled pants in our back line, hence they generally choose to miss them out completely and smash it to opponents keeper, time and time again (as seen against Wimbledon). 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,913
    Love the purple one!
    me too
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,568
    I'm quite excited about Alli. He's direct, takes people on, will get you off your seat at times, what's not to like...
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 24,360
    Redhenry said:
    I'm quite excited about Alli. He's direct, takes people on, will get you off your seat at times, what's not to like...

    Possibly his final ball ?

    I remember Lee Bowyer saying than about Jonathan Leko when he turned up on loan from Birmingham.
    TBF to Leko who is a similar player to Alli, he did have moments of high skill in his 47 app and 7 goals in 2 loan spells but like so many wingers or wide players was quite erratic but could certainly have moments of fancy footwork.

    Alli could play a cameo role to be a game changer coming off the bench.
    As always, I want everyone to succeed who wears the CAFC shirt.

  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 24,418
    Tonight 
    Make it magnificent
    Tonight 
    Make me tonight 
    Your hair is beautiful 
    Oh tonight 
    Millenic
    Whoooaooh
    Millenic
    Whoooaooh
    Millenic
    Whoooooooooaaoooooooh

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,691
    BigDiddy said:
    Unless we get much better midfield signings, it will be a painful season, especially if Kayne And Lloyd go, which seems increasingly likely.

    We don’t seem to be improving the quality of our squad.



    I'd not be surprised with Ramsay but what makes you think Jones will be out the door.
    Because he’s on a windup 
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 51,691
    Redhenry said:
    I'm quite excited about Alli. He's direct, takes people on, will get you off your seat at times, what's not to like...
    Is that a toilet seat though ?
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,796
    Any reason he didn't begin pre-season with Luton? No different from Karoy, Kanu, Apter doing so with us, I would have thought.