I am going to say it!! Yes I am, Nathan Jones......................

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    If you think we are bringing in a championship promotion winner as our manager then wow. Other than Paul Heckingbottom there's no chance we're doing that
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 377
    We spent peanuts last summer.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    Yes, we are looking for somebody to get us promoted.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    Yes, we are looking for somebody to get us promoted.
    We're not back in league 1 yet
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,549
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,549
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    I don't even want a new manager! I want the board to back NJ in the January transfer window so not sure why you're expecting me to give other options. I'm just disagreeing with you about Eustace.
  • "Something needs to change on Tuesday otherwise something else will change "

    Sounds like he's been told he must get a result on Tuesday 
    Well if this is right, Tuesday will prove once and for all whether the players are still behind Jones.

    If they burst a gut and really try to give him the win he needs, then clearly they are still behind him. 

    If we get another disjointed display where some look as if they cant be bothered, then clearly they want him gone.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,354
    This is a side hanging on for a year now at this level. Everyone and his dog knew we needed a midfield overhaul in the summer but it never happened. Not sure replacing Jones will make any difference. But if we keep losing you have to give someone else a go 

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  • From that interview I think Jones knows the writing is on the wall.  I think he realises he can't turn it around. 

    For what it's worth, I don't think he was backed by the board as much as he was expecting this summer & unless the budget is changed in January, I don't think another manager will fare much better. 

    In my view, the poor summer recruitment is as much on the board as it is Jones 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    edited October 31
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    If you seriously think Scott Parker would come and manage us at the moment then please let me know what you’re drinking so I can order some in for the game on Tuesday 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,137
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 20,220
    After listening to both of his interviews after today’s game Jones is talking like he knows he needs a result this week.

    He’s no fool in knowing that something has to change. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    If you seriously think Scott Parker would come and manage us at the moment then please let me know what you’re drinking so I can order some in for the game on Tuesday 
    "Parker without question if the board come to their senses and have a massive rethink financially".



  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    If you seriously think Scott Parker would come and manage us at the moment then please let me know what you’re drinking so I can order some in for the game on Tuesday 
    "Parker without question if the board come to their senses and have a massive rethink financially".



    So you’ve admitted yourself why it is not realistic. All I’m asking is for people that are Jones out to give some realistic names that we could replace him with, it can’t be that hard can it? 
  • FAVADDICK
    FAVADDICK Posts: 628
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    I don't even want a new manager! I want the board to back NJ in the January transfer window so not sure why you're expecting me to give other options. I'm just disagreeing with you about Eustace.
    Why does jones deserve to be backed in January, as his track record on recruitment has not been good has it.
    look at how much money has been wasted on Apter, Tanto ,Ali, kamakazi, Burke, Ahadme that’s without some of the terrible free agents we brought in like, hernandez, Roussillon, bouzanis, Hylton, Potts and some really poor loans. Unfortunately for him it’s come to the end of the road and a win on Tuesday would only paper over some of the cracks. With people asking who would you bring in, I wouldn’t have a clue as I don’t know how much budget there is and how much pull we are now. All I know is this can not carry on the way we are.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He was the same in the summer on every Tyreece Campbell post I made. Saying he’d be surprised if we could get a million for him and if we did should sell him. Aged like milk 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He was the same in the summer on every Tyreece Campbell post I made. Saying he’d be surprised if we could get a million for him and if we did should sell him. Aged like milk 

    From memory your figure for him was 10 million?

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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 6,919
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He was the same in the summer on every Tyreece Campbell post I made. Saying he’d be surprised if we could get a million for him and if we did should sell him. Aged like milk 

    From memory your figure for him was 10 million?
    No that was my potential figure 2-3 years down the line if we got him on a new contract rather than selling him on the cheap as you suggested. Think I actually said £7-10m and it seems he might get there a lot quicker than I thought 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He was the same in the summer on every Tyreece Campbell post I made. Saying he’d be surprised if we could get a million for him and if we did should sell him. Aged like milk 

    From memory your figure for him was 10 million?
    No that was my potential figure 2-3 years down the line if we got him on a new contract rather than selling him on the cheap as you suggested. Think I actually said £7-10m and it seems he might get there a lot quicker than I thought 

    Only time will tell, do you agree?
  • arny23394
    arny23394 Posts: 1,583
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He’s a very very strange little man
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,137
    arny23394 said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He’s a very very strange little man
    No need to get personal
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 29,079
    Southbank said:
    NabySarr said:
    FAVADDICK said:
    NabySarr said:
    I am sorry but I can’t see anything but us losing the next three games. The players look demoralised and Jones seems to have run out of ideas. It is like shuffling deck chairs on the Titanic. 
    I’m sure the same was said on here after the Bristol Rovers, Crawley and Millwall games. He deserves the next 3 games to try and turn it around like he did on those 3 occasions 
    I don’t get this next 3 games, he’s had 9 games some against some really poor opponents and walked away being spanked by most of them and people just want to potentially throw away another 9 points playing boring terrible football when realistically we should be beating 2 out of the next 3 teams.
    It’s more that there’s a big break after the next 3 games. So we can then do a proper recruitment process to bring in a new manager if needed 

    We should be beating Bolton, but not sure Sheffield United is a “should be beating” game. Compare our starting eleven to theirs and maybe 2 of our players would get in theirs. Most teams we play are simply much better than us player for player and Sheffield United is no different 
    Yet you think a new manager would make any difference with the current squad?
    Yes
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    arny23394 said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He’s a very very strange little man

    Do you know me personally?
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    fenaddick said:
    arny23394 said:
    fenaddick said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    In your opinion.
    To be honest you seem to know so much I don't know why Charlton do not appoint you and we'll be winning the Champions League in the next three seasons.  You have all the answers.

    You keep saying things like this. Why do you have a problem with Naby sharing his opinions?
    He’s a very very strange little man
    No need to get personal

    Thank you.
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,549
    edited October 31
    FAVADDICK said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    NabySarr said:
    John Eustace in the championship:

    Kept Birmingham up first season and got them their highest points tally in 8 years
    Had them in the play offs second season before he was sacked for Rooney (lol)
    Went in to Blackburn and kept them up from the drop
    Then had Blackburn in the play offs before leaving for the Derby job
    Kept Derby up that season and then finished 8th in his first full season 

    This season has been a disaster for him, but before that he's had multiple successful years in the championship as a manager, getting teams performing above expectations and budget. 3 times he has gone in and kept teams up from relegation and then had them in the play offs the next season

    Do people really think we are going to bring in a manager with a better record than that? If so prepare to be disappointed

    Hopefully Jones wins this week and it doesn't come to it. But I think people are deluded if they are turning down a manager with a good record of overperforming at this level, thinking we are going to bring in any better 
    Has not got a team promoted.
    Are we looking for someone to get us promoted. We need someone to keep us up this season and then help us push up the championship table. Eustace has done that exact requirement at every club he's been at so far 
    They're second from bottom after spending a fortune compared to us and the vast majority of their fans hate his team selections and tactics. He would be such an uninspiring choice. Can't believe you have such a hard on for him.
    He's had one poor season as a manager. Before that he's had multiple seasons of over-achievement at this level

    His overall record is better than most managers and definitely better than anyone we could hope to appoint. I think there is some serious delusion on here about the market we will be shopping in for a new manager. I've asked about 6 times and still no one has provided a realistic name that is better than Nathan Jones or John Eustace
    I don't even want a new manager! I want the board to back NJ in the January transfer window so not sure why you're expecting me to give other options. I'm just disagreeing with you about Eustace.
    Why does jones deserve to be backed in January, as his track record on recruitment has not been good has it.
    look at how much money has been wasted on Apter, Tanto ,Ali, kamakazi, Burke, Ahadme that’s without some of the terrible free agents we brought in like, hernandez, Roussillon, bouzanis, Hylton, Potts and some really poor loans. Unfortunately for him it’s come to the end of the road and a win on Tuesday would only paper over some of the cracks. With people asking who would you bring in, I wouldn’t have a clue as I don’t know how much budget there is and how much pull we are now. All I know is this can not carry on the way we are.
    FWIW I do agree that some of our recruitment hasn't been good enough, just as our recent performances and results haven't been. NJ isn't God. I just happen to think he's done a good job as manager since taking over and deserves more time and to be backed by our owners, rather than having to shop in the bargain bins.

    To answer your point, it is no surprise to me that we've had a lot of failures when we are shopping at the level we are. Every club has failures in recruitment. Wrexham and Derby have spent a lot more than us over the past few seasons and are struggling and their fans are incredibly unhappy with their manager and signings. So I think we have to be realistic and say that this isn't just an issue for NJ. The odds of it happening increase when you take more risks, which we have to do due to our small budget.

    Hopefully he can turn it around once again but I realise that there's always going to be people that are quick to call for him to go.

    I can see the end approaching because I think the situation might be too far gone with some people and I think he is starting to realise that too. I will be incredibly disappointed when it arrives. 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 4,241
    Would Dave Challinor be a prospect?

    Not endorsing but curious.
  • MrBurns
    MrBurns Posts: 2,146
    I think the players will turn up for him on Tuesday and get the win. Hopefully we then go on a bit of a run with Sheffield Utd and Lincoln being winnable games at home.