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The Olympics - bothered?
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[quote]If it werent for Michael Phelps, we would be one gold behind the US... not bad not bad. [/quote]
but a fair few of those would've been won by the American silver medalists!
Anyway there are too many swimming events. And there shouldn't be any velodrome, sailing or horsey events either these are privileged events in which we have been able to buy our way to success :-)0 -
Probably playing Devil's Advocate here and i know there are arguments between missing tests and being found guilty of drug offences but do we think the "holier than thou" crew of Kelly Holmes, Steve Redgrave, Steve Cram, Steve Backley etc will come out and say she doesnt deserve her medal?
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I hope not - she missed three tests, rather than fail a dope test for which she served a year's suspension and has since been tested regularly.0 -
I just watched a brilliant race, a Londoner down in 4th with 60m to go battle through to take gold, jump around like a loon on the podium, actually sing God Save the Queen, and the first thing some people want to do is say she is on drugs.
Christ we Brits love to knock people down.
Well done girl, what a games its been.0 -
She has done brilliantly and I am sure she is clean now.
but you could say it smacks of hypocrisy to exclude Dwain Chambers after he has served his punishment in full, but to allow Christine O to compete after serving hers?
Shouldn't avoiding drugs tests have a similar penalty to being tested and being found guilty?0 -
to me though it smacks of hypocrisy to exclude Dwain Chambers after he has served his punishment, but to allow Christine O to compete in similar circumstances.
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The difference is - he failed a drugs test, she only missed three drug tests, there has to be some allowance for there being different offences. She served her ban and starts with a clean slate.0 -
could you not thus argue that Chambers' biggest mistake was not getting on his bike when the testers turned up??0
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Chambers was proven to be taking drugs - Ohuruogu has never tested positive. Obvious difference.0
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Ohuruogu was tested with 24 hours of the all the missed tests, UK sport screwed up on at least 2 of those.
She's clean, and what a story, the girl from Stratford having the chance to defend her championship in her own back yard0 -
but Weegie ... is the lesson then for all those on drugs simply to run away when the testers turn up?0
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Thanks Rothko, that does make a difference!0
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so the lesson to all those on drugs is simply to run away when the testers turn up!
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Then you get a year's suspension.0 -
I don't know why i'm replying but i've been sucked in :-)
She never 'run away' from any of the tests. If anyone was to blame for those missed tests, it was her coaching team for not updating the register on their designated training venue. It is also arguable that the testing body could easily of avoided all scenarios simply by a phone call but chose not to.
On all three times, she provided a negative test within 24 hours. No known banned substance can move through the bloodstream that quickly.
Those three tests were also over a long period of time, a period where she provided a series of negative tests in between, along with those within 24hrs relating to the missed tests. Since then, she has been one of the most tested athletes.
Of course, if you and others have made up your minds, then its irrelevent.0 -
We're awesome! I've already had some bitter Aussies contracting me, claiming that we're on drugs!
I'm looking forward to 2012 even more than I was before, fantastic stuff!0 -
Hi AFKA ... no, I haven't made my mind up at all, and I'm sure you don't approve of people who evade drugs tests.
From the background you and Rothko have provided it sounds like she's been really unlucky .... and also that there needs to be a better processes in place by both the coaches and the testers, then there should be no excuse in future for athletes delaying tests on multiple occaisons and tougher sanctions can apply - perhaps to the coaches too.0 -
Excellent responses Rothko and AFKA.
As you say she's probably been tested more than any other UK athlete and has NEVER failed a test.0 -
My mates son is one of our leading junior athletes - triple jump - the athletics community is pretty tight and there is no doubt that she was is and will continue to be clean. Chambers was not clean, if he had missed his test he would still ot have been clean.0
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Rothko, AFKA and Kap10 - excellent info. I was hoping she was clean, but now feel I could argue a strong case for her. All the more delighted she won.0
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and I am looking forward to seeing her win tonight :-)0
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Oh sorry, Salad, did we spoil the surprise for you? :-)0
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Ditto to Weegie and Salad - as said previously - just playing Devil's advocate to draw AFKA in.0
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Greek or Latin, its still boring and yes I am a Pilchard....0
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....However the Winter Olympics I find most stimulating....0
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Initially I was determined not to get into the Olympics, but I'm hooked. At 3.10'ish this afternoon I was shouting at my computer screen and jumping around like a loon when Ohurougu was sailing past the opposition.
What great role models for our kids? Suddenly we're all feeling proud to be British! I cannot wait until 2012.
Who knows if we'll manage to stay above them, but ain't it great to be higher than those whining ozzies!!!! Long may it last.0 -
usa were not runner-up to any of phelps' 8 gold haul.hungary would have done best without him with 3 silvers to him and he won 3 in relays.0
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Yeah, but if Phelps wasn't in the relays they would probably just have wheeled some other yank in and won it with him instead.0
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Anyone see our two girls in the 10km open water swim this morning?
Imagine swimming 10km for a shade under 2 hours, being in first and second place virtually all of the way and then having some Ruski go past you to win with 100 metres to go - gutting!
Still, I'm sure they would've taken 2nd and 3rd before they got on the plane out there - so well done to them!0 -
Think the old Ruski chick pulled our girls legs back as well. That can't be allowed can it?0
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Our girls should've backed out a couple of "mines" for her to swim into - if you get me?!0
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Men's 200 metres final at 3.20 UK time, can Bolt set another WR?0
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some good boxing this afternoon. england ireland semi in the middleweight. I think - was watching in the gym.0
