[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Greater Manchester Ob now they really like footy fans and always show good old northern hospitality to anyone from London.
Lovely they are ain't they!
haha they're about as bad as those from Yorkshire and Nottingham.
If it's a trouble fixture then you can understand being herded around or being told to stay in certain pubs etc. What you don't need though is the antagonism that you sometimes get, the snide remarks, the threats, then batons into your ribs as you walk....all little things that winds the crowd up and leads to frustration and trouble.
Some plod have got it spot on, good natured, polite etc and the crowd will respond and behave.
[cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]So Groucho78MFC remebers a game in 2002 where there wasn't any trouble! Classic!
keep saying it often enough lads - you seem to convince yourselves it's never your lots fault - always somebody else's
poor little things - all together now - awwwwwwww
Think you'll find Millwall fans tend to make the point that it takes two to tango. Whilst we are at fault, it isn't ONLY our fault, and some people like yourself need to pull your head out of the sand and realise that banning Millwall will not all of a sudden stop the stuff that happens at football games. We certainly have more than our fair share of fans who are more than happy to get involved, but it's normally when there is something to get involved in, and that takes another group of fans to facilitate.
Millwall weren't at Burton Albion v Grimsby, Millwall weren't at Luton v York, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Chelsea, Millwall weren't at Barnsley v Man United, Millwall weren't Charlton v Norwich, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Leeds, Millwall weren't at Chelsea v Cardiff, Millwall weren't at United v Stoke, Hayes v Luton,....and on and on and on. Games where it's all kicked off or been trouble.
Cheers for that SLL. I couldn't even muster the energy to argue my point, seeing as redman had missed it by about 235 miles - i assumed it was pointless.
I agree with Goonerhater about Manchester plod. Most vile mob on the planet.
I also can't believe that I agree with Gonnerhater. I'm going for a lie down!
[cite]Posted By: redman[/cite]So Groucho78MFC remebers a game in 2002 where there wasn't any trouble! Classic!
keep saying it often enough lads - you seem to convince yourselves it's never your lots fault - always somebody else's
poor little things - all together now - awwwwwwww
Think you'll find Millwall fans tend to make the point that it takes two to tango. Whilst we are at fault, it isn't ONLY our fault, and some people like yourself need to pull your head out of the sand and realise that banning Millwall will not all of a sudden stop the stuff that happens at football games. We certainly have more than our fair share of fans who are more than happy to get involved, but it's normally when there is something to get involved in, and that takes another group of fans to facilitate.
Millwall weren't at Burton Albion v Grimsby, Millwall weren't at Luton v York, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Chelsea, Millwall weren't at Barnsley v Man United, Millwall weren't Charlton v Norwich, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Leeds, Millwall weren't at Chelsea v Cardiff, Millwall weren't at United v Stoke, Hayes v Luton,....and on and on and on. Games where it's all kicked off or been trouble.
But clearly our fault and only our fault!
Ha ha listen to yourself! Obviously you can't be at fault for trouble at games in which Millwall aren't even playing but i don't think that was Redman's point. In games where Millwall are playing, the trouble is by and large down to you lot, especially in big games. Derby and Birmingham in the play offs spring to mind, Hull in the cup. I even read the excuse that the trouble against West ham in the cup this year was because the police halved your allocation. Like giving you lot an extra 1500 tickets would've helped the situation.
Away fans get kept in at the Den for up to an hour after the game to protect them from attack by you lot.
Away fans at the Den have to walk to the station in a specially built walkway to protect them from attack by you lot. Does this happen at any other ground?
Meanwhile the sensible few amongst your lot sit and pray that you win tomorrow night, not just because you'll get to Wembley, but because if you don't win, they'll probably be yet more trouble and the club will be in trouble with the FA.
Your clubs reputation has been built up through the decades and is one which nearly all of your fans thrive on, so yes it is your fault.
So it was 100 Millwall fans who chased 20 other Millwall fans down Priory Road shouting "come on Millwall" and then plunging a knife into a fathers stomach with his kids?
Derby in the play offs - was that 80 Millwall that turned up at Surrey Docks before the game and called it on with other Millwall fans?
Birmingham - their mob that arrived at London Bridge about 300 handed...must've all been Millwall fans travelling down from Birmingham with tickets in the away end eh?
You've missed the point completely. I'm well aware we have a large section who like a row with another teams fans. I'm well aware we have young kids aged 12-17 who thrive on the reputation and think it gives them permission to be bullies.
We are notorious, Millwall have a support that are more than capable of dealing with any threats and attacks from other supporters up & down the country. That breeds a reputation and ensures that wherever we go the other team turns out as many of their nutters and loons to have a pop at "the famous nasty Millwall".
Millwall have always been like it, and there are other clubs in the country very similar. The point I'm making is that Saturday was partly our fault, but what would've happened if Hudds didn't have 100+ to our right who were throwing bottles and calling it on and then waited for us outside? Would anything have happened? No.
Something happened because there were opposition fans who were behaving just as bad and wanted trouble. So yes, we are to blame, but Hudds aren't no angels and behaved the same yesterday.
Not saying we're never at fault. But for people to sit their in the towers and point fingers when absolutely NO ONE is in possession of ANY facts at all is all a bit pathetic.
I can watch SSN for ten minutes, or a 10 second youtube clip of a pig belting a Millwall fan, and I can formulate an opinion from that quite easily. Most likely to be well off the mark though, so I'll just keep it to myself. The fact is, no one on here really knows what happened at Huddersfield except for SLL. His opinion on the situation should be considered as the most valid on here. But no, thats far too easy. People still want to go on like they were smack-bang in the middle of it. And Hull. And Brum. And west ham.
"I heard this, I heard that". Yeah, ok. Next......
[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Greater Manchester Ob now they really like footy fans and always show good old northern hospitality to anyone from London.
I think the Manchester OB got there comupance when Rangers played the final there.
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[cite]Posted By: Goonerhater[/cite]Greater Manchester Ob now they really like footy fans and always show good old northern hospitality to anyone from London.
Lovely they are ain't they!
haha they're about as bad as those from Yorkshire and Nottingham.
If it's a trouble fixture then you can understand being herded around or being told to stay in certain pubs etc. What you don't need though is the antagonism that you sometimes get, the snide remarks, the threats, then batons into your ribs as you walk....all little things that winds the crowd up and leads to frustration and trouble.
Some plod have got it spot on, good natured, polite etc and the crowd will respond and behave.
When we played Derby last Season I found the police there quite allright. Made us all leave the wetherspoons but gave us a lift to another pub in the back of their vans, You can imagine my girlfriend reaction when she phoned me and I tell her im in the back of a meatwagon lol. They let people out of the stadium at half time to have a smoke if they wished and were just friendly. Even asked me to call the coach we went on and he will make sure he parks right out side for us. No attitude at from ob all day.
To be fair you only need to follow England away to see what clubs like Millwall get every single weekend. Chicken and egg about how the rep starts and by no means are/have Millwall and England been good little boys but once it does every nutter in the land wants a run at you, regardless of who you are or whether you're interested or not.
Maybe as Wilson says, it is written in the stars that Swindon will go up. And have to agree with Bigred there is something about Austins season that means he is bound to score at Wembley.
Milwall did lose to an underdog last season at Wembley, also beginning with S.
Absolute thick Millwank fans are. Morrison had a head bandage on for a reason, yet every fecking scumbag who ran on to the pitch grabbed his head and shook it around. Most of the Millwall players look petrified when they all ran on.
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Lovely they are ain't they!
haha they're about as bad as those from Yorkshire and Nottingham.
If it's a trouble fixture then you can understand being herded around or being told to stay in certain pubs etc. What you don't need though is the antagonism that you sometimes get, the snide remarks, the threats, then batons into your ribs as you walk....all little things that winds the crowd up and leads to frustration and trouble.
Some plod have got it spot on, good natured, polite etc and the crowd will respond and behave.
keep saying it often enough lads - you seem to convince yourselves it's never your lots fault - always somebody else's
poor little things - all together now - awwwwwwww
Prat.
Think you'll find Millwall fans tend to make the point that it takes two to tango. Whilst we are at fault, it isn't ONLY our fault, and some people like yourself need to pull your head out of the sand and realise that banning Millwall will not all of a sudden stop the stuff that happens at football games. We certainly have more than our fair share of fans who are more than happy to get involved, but it's normally when there is something to get involved in, and that takes another group of fans to facilitate.
Millwall weren't at Burton Albion v Grimsby, Millwall weren't at Luton v York, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Chelsea, Millwall weren't at Barnsley v Man United, Millwall weren't Charlton v Norwich, Millwall weren't at Tottenham v Leeds, Millwall weren't at Chelsea v Cardiff, Millwall weren't at United v Stoke, Hayes v Luton,....and on and on and on. Games where it's all kicked off or been trouble.
But clearly our fault and only our fault!
I agree with Goonerhater about Manchester plod. Most vile mob on the planet.
I also can't believe that I agree with Gonnerhater. I'm going for a lie down!
Ha ha listen to yourself! Obviously you can't be at fault for trouble at games in which Millwall aren't even playing but i don't think that was Redman's point. In games where Millwall are playing, the trouble is by and large down to you lot, especially in big games. Derby and Birmingham in the play offs spring to mind, Hull in the cup. I even read the excuse that the trouble against West ham in the cup this year was because the police halved your allocation. Like giving you lot an extra 1500 tickets would've helped the situation.
Away fans get kept in at the Den for up to an hour after the game to protect them from attack by you lot.
Away fans at the Den have to walk to the station in a specially built walkway to protect them from attack by you lot. Does this happen at any other ground?
Meanwhile the sensible few amongst your lot sit and pray that you win tomorrow night, not just because you'll get to Wembley, but because if you don't win, they'll probably be yet more trouble and the club will be in trouble with the FA.
Your clubs reputation has been built up through the decades and is one which nearly all of your fans thrive on, so yes it is your fault.
Derby in the play offs - was that 80 Millwall that turned up at Surrey Docks before the game and called it on with other Millwall fans?
Birmingham - their mob that arrived at London Bridge about 300 handed...must've all been Millwall fans travelling down from Birmingham with tickets in the away end eh?
You've missed the point completely. I'm well aware we have a large section who like a row with another teams fans. I'm well aware we have young kids aged 12-17 who thrive on the reputation and think it gives them permission to be bullies.
We are notorious, Millwall have a support that are more than capable of dealing with any threats and attacks from other supporters up & down the country. That breeds a reputation and ensures that wherever we go the other team turns out as many of their nutters and loons to have a pop at "the famous nasty Millwall".
Millwall have always been like it, and there are other clubs in the country very similar. The point I'm making is that Saturday was partly our fault, but what would've happened if Hudds didn't have 100+ to our right who were throwing bottles and calling it on and then waited for us outside? Would anything have happened? No.
Something happened because there were opposition fans who were behaving just as bad and wanted trouble. So yes, we are to blame, but Hudds aren't no angels and behaved the same yesterday.
I can watch SSN for ten minutes, or a 10 second youtube clip of a pig belting a Millwall fan, and I can formulate an opinion from that quite easily. Most likely to be well off the mark though, so I'll just keep it to myself. The fact is, no one on here really knows what happened at Huddersfield except for SLL. His opinion on the situation should be considered as the most valid on here. But no, thats far too easy. People still want to go on like they were smack-bang in the middle of it. And Hull. And Brum. And west ham.
"I heard this, I heard that". Yeah, ok. Next......
FIO for sure
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I think the Manchester OB got there comupance when Rangers played the final there.
When we played Derby last Season I found the police there quite allright. Made us all leave the wetherspoons but gave us a lift to another pub in the back of their vans, You can imagine my girlfriend reaction when she phoned me and I tell her im in the back of a meatwagon lol. They let people out of the stadium at half time to have a smoke if they wished and were just friendly. Even asked me to call the coach we went on and he will make sure he parks right out side for us. No attitude at from ob all day.
Agreed. Then Hudds to win final and then that would give us another southern team still in our league
LOL! I know someone who won't be happy
Would have beaten us though!
Swindon will have a chance vs Millwall, something about Charlie Austin's fairytale season
No way mate not at our place anyway.
the pathetic amount of supporters that turned up for Huddersfield in both legs must have rubbed off on the players.
Milwall did lose to an underdog last season at Wembley, also beginning with S.
Something we fail miserably on.
too be fair we'd have all been on the pitch last night
Still, it's a long way to fall, Wembley losers twice in 2 years? We can dream! lol
to be honest i dont think we would. Only job half done by Millwall. The gonads than ran on only did it cos they was asked not too. Well'ard.
Oh im praying they get spanked mate. Nothing better than seeing 40,000 plastics upset.
NB: FLAT CAPS = TOSSER
Anyone wearing a flat cap at the Valley should be banned.