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  • My theory. The two shots in short succession sounded like double tapping from the same weapon. I doubt that Pilkington's workshop manufactured firearm could manage that. So Kate probably shot him unless Davidson had a decent weapon to shoot either or both Kate and Pilkington. 

  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,242
    Or Ryan shot Jo knowing that she would blab them Kate put one in him 


  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    My theory. The two shots in short succession sounded like double tapping from the same weapon. I doubt that Pilkington's workshop manufactured firearm could manage that. So Kate probably shot him unless Davidson had a decent weapon to shoot either or both Kate and Pilkington. 
    So, of the three people at the scene, you have narrowed down the shooter to either Kate or Jo, with the possibility it might have been Ryan, or it could be Kate and Jo.  And you have also narrowed down the likely victim of the shooting to be Ryan, or Ryan and Kate, with the possibility it might have been Kate. 

    Good theory - I think you might be on to something, fella. 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Alexa thinks it was Steve arriving in the nick of time
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,617
    In the series trailer, there was a spoiler of who shot who.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Chizz said:
    My theory. The two shots in short succession sounded like double tapping from the same weapon. I doubt that Pilkington's workshop manufactured firearm could manage that. So Kate probably shot him unless Davidson had a decent weapon to shoot either or both Kate and Pilkington. 
    So, of the three people at the scene, you have narrowed down the shooter to either Kate or Jo, with the possibility it might have been Ryan, or it could be Kate and Jo.  And you have also narrowed down the likely victim of the shooting to be Ryan, or Ryan and Kate, with the possibility it might have been Kate. 

    Good theory - I think you might be on to something, fella. 

    Backing every horse in a race is a sure way of picking the winner - I wouldn't advise it as a strategy though!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Alexa thinks it was Steve arriving in the nick of time

    Alexa gets right on my thrupenny bits - I'm not talking to her anymore.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    bobmunro said:
    Chizz said:
    My theory. The two shots in short succession sounded like double tapping from the same weapon. I doubt that Pilkington's workshop manufactured firearm could manage that. So Kate probably shot him unless Davidson had a decent weapon to shoot either or both Kate and Pilkington. 
    So, of the three people at the scene, you have narrowed down the shooter to either Kate or Jo, with the possibility it might have been Ryan, or it could be Kate and Jo.  And you have also narrowed down the likely victim of the shooting to be Ryan, or Ryan and Kate, with the possibility it might have been Kate. 

    Good theory - I think you might be on to something, fella. 

    Backing every horse in a race is a sure way of picking the winner - I wouldn't advise it as a strategy though!
    Used to be a decent option back in the Pricewise days and bookies going back to the grid prices at 8.30/9am. You could guarantee a profit on some races by backing every horse!
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Carter said:
    Or Ryan shot Jo knowing that she would blab them Kate put one in him 
    I am fairly confident they traded shots. I don't get why though. Ryan went there to kill Kate and decided to have a long drawn out conversation instead! Why? Why do the bad guys always have to give a speech giving the main characters a chance to save themselves?

    Given this, I reckon Ryan fired first possibly injuring Kate, she returns fire killing him is my guess. Hero's are always crack shots with insta-kill mods whereas bad guys are usually Storm Troopers.

    I would really like a GOT-esque killing of a main character though. I hate TV shows where the main characters continually survive unreasonable situations. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,740
    I reckon someone dropped a couple of Snap-Its
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  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000


    Originally posted by the official BBC page I think so at least someone has a sense of humor about themselves!
  • Pretty suspicious that the surveillance on Ryan + Davison got pulled by Carmichael at the exact time they were off to kill Kate - very similar situation to the start of the season when the surveillance was pulled for the few hours when they switched Carl Banks for Terry Boyle in the flat.

    Line of Duty likes to use the same evidence/MO  to make connections to the OCG ...
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Pretty suspicious that the surveillance on Ryan + Davison got pulled by Carmichael at the exact time they were off to kill Kate - very similar situation to the start of the season when the surveillance was pulled for the few hours when they switched Carl Banks for Terry Boyle in the flat.

    Line of Duty likes to use the same evidence/MO  to make connections to the OCG ...
    If there’s anyone that Hastings tags for being H, I so hope it’s Carmichael.
  • Thinking on it more she'd probably have the ability to question if the surveillance on the Banks/Boyle flat was 'legal' to set up the events in that first episode too - they pinned that on Buckles purposefully issuing the wrong order or something but he seems to have got caught up in it all rather than masterminding the events.

    And she was sent to meddle in AC12s investigation by the Commissioner who is linked to the Peadophilia scandal and this Thurwell fella...
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849
    Wild guess here. 

    Davidson produces a gun and shoots Ryan as he pulls the trigger on Kate, causing him to miss
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,849

    Or is someone can post the series trailer that has the clue....
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    MrOneLung said:

    Or is someone can post the series trailer that has the clue....
    I think the trailer pretty much points to Ryan being the one that was shot. If Kate or Jo got shot, they recovered pretty well to then be on their feet straight after! 
  • DaveStorry
    DaveStorry Posts: 989
    Comment from Lakewell before he met his maker, along the lines of beware or watch out for race claim.  Carmichael, less race claim leaves ....H. . 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Thing is there isn't a "H" anymore is there. The finale of the previous series concluded that Cottan wasn't doing 4 dots for H, he was doing 4 dots because there are 4 major players. So they are now searching for the final one rather than H.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,843
    Comment from Lakewell before he met his maker, along the lines of beware or watch out for race claim.  Carmichael, less race claim leaves ....H. . 

    Brilliant, Holmes.
    Elementary my dear Watson.
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    MrOneLung said:

    Or is someone can post the series trailer that has the clue....
    I think the trailer pretty much points to Ryan being the one that was shot. If Kate or Jo got shot, they recovered pretty well to then be on their feet straight after! 
    I took that trailer to just be trailing the whole series, not just one particular scene in it. ie, this is the kind of series it is just to whet your appetite. Why would Hastings need a megaphone when they are in a small car park & know that there are only 3 protangists present. 
  • golfaddick said:
    Why would Hastings need a megaphone when they are in a small car park & know that there are only 3 protangists present. 
    Erm, a little something called showmanship?
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    MrOneLung said:

    Or is someone can post the series trailer that has the clue....
    I think the trailer pretty much points to Ryan being the one that was shot. If Kate or Jo got shot, they recovered pretty well to then be on their feet straight after! 
    I took that trailer to just be trailing the whole series, not just one particular scene in it. ie, this is the kind of series it is just to whet your appetite. Why would Hastings need a megaphone when they are in a small car park & know that there are only 3 protangists present. 
    Who said it was straight after. They might have got in a car and then been blocked off elsewhere. It might just be a trailer but personally I think it will be in the next episode. Pure guesswork though, plenty of twists to come no doubt. 
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    It doesn’t look like the lorry park in the trailer when they get stopped, so I suspect they may have tried to leave 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    edited April 2021
    I've been thinking...

    What if Jo Davidson double tapped Ryan? He's fully distracted by Kate's gun, if she's authorised to carry, surely Jo is too.
  • She was authorised to carry a gun dur to them knowing Ryab was a danger to her though, not sure that would apply to Jo.
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,841
    Jo is not an AFO, so if she shoots Ryan it would be unlawful. Then again she seems to have been unlawful in lots of other areas so why not another indiscretion. It would at least get the little runt off of her back.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,650
    edited April 2021
    Tonight’s the night!

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    No spoilers but just read the synopsis for tonight's episode on Virgin Media's TV planner.  Talks about "repercussions of  tragic events" and the (admittedly limited) cast list doesnt show Vicky McClure's name.