Well we offered him a lower wage then he was already on as he was on crazy money for a league one player.
I thought semedo was on around 6k not much more than Paul Hayes was on so not that crazy and the fact we saw off championship teams to assemble our squad last season imo means last year we'd have had a few "on crazy money for a league one player"
Picked this up from the Tottenham Hotspurs Unofficial Supporters site
Goalkeeping coach Tony Parks believes that Spurs’ future is in safe hands as he eyes the next generation of Tottenham custodians – and he is tipping David Button to challenge for the No1 jersey in the next few years.
David Button With 41-year-old Brad Friedel and 38-year-old Carlo Cudicini approaching the end of their careers, the Lilywhites are on the look-out for long-term replacements.
A move for France’s Hugo Lloris has been mooted, but Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is hoping that the club will also be able to develop their own players at their new state-of-the-art academy.
Having survived the change of management over the summer, Parks has been charged with the responsibility of nurturing the club’s emerging keepers – and he feels the future is bright. Originally Posted by Tony Parks We have a couple of younger lads who did particularly well last season
We certainly have a few lower down and we’ve got a few coming through from the ages of nine to 16 – we’re quite well equipped there.
We’ve got at least one who might be a future goalkeeper for us and I think we’re looking quite good. Ben Alnwick, 25, Oscar Jansson, 21, and Mirko Ranieri, 20, were recently released but Scotland Under-21 keeper Jordan Archer has penned a new deal while 19-year-old Jonathan Miles has signed his first professional contract – and Parks has high hopes for Button.
The 23-year-old has been loaned to 12 different clubs since joining Tottenham’s academy in 2005-06, culminating in spells with Doncaster Rovers and Barnsley in the Championship earlier this year. Originally Posted by Tony Parks We’ve had David Button out on loan for the last couple of years,” said Parks.
He’s made steady progress from League Two, into League One and then into the Championship, so he would be one that we hold in high regard.
I think David’s technically a very good footballing goalkeeper. In the modern game you need to be decent with the ball at your feet, which he is.
He works really hard in the gym to make himself as strong as he possibly can, and he comes and deals with crosses. Parks, who worked with Joe Hart during his time as an FA youth coach, says Spurs are taking their time to develop Button’s talents. Originally Posted by Tony Parks Physically, David’s probably developed a bit later than Joe Hart, but that’s starting to come now.
Some kids develop earlier and develop their strength earlier. David’s very tall – he’s 6ft 4ins.
He was a big, tall, skinny lad with not a lot of muscle power as a young kid, and sometimes you have to wait for that to come.
He goes into the gym and works on his strength and his power, and all of those attributes are now starting to pay dividends for him.
Whereas Joe was a man when he was about 20 years old, David’s probably had to wait until he was 22. People think ‘oh he’s 23’, but physically he was about 20 or 21.
Sometimes you just have to take that into consideration and make sure that the development programme is right for the player – where you place him, what level he plays at, what type of training he does – and over the last couple of years he’s done really well to finish last season as a Championship goalkeeper.
Hopefully we can get him out and playing in the Championship again next season and look forward to him hopefully moving on to become a Premier League goalie for Tottenham. However, Parks believes that young English goalkeepers face an uphill struggle to make an impact in the top flight. Originally Posted by Tony Parks Joe had a lot of games as a young goalkeeper, which is really important.
That’s where he gained his experience. It’s something that English goalkeepers lack specifically - it’s very difficult for young English goalkeepers to break in.
The Premier League is so awash with finances, and it can attract the best from around the world – and the other factor is that most managers prefer goalkeepers who are a bit more mature.
But if you have a look around Europe at the moment, there are a lot of young goalies playing – there are probably half a dozen who are playing in the first team at the age of 18 or 19.
Look at the boy who won the Europa League with Atletico Madrid [Thibaut Courtois]. He’s another 20-year-old who’s been playing first-team football since he was about 17-and-a-half or 18 at Genk. Then he moved on to Chelsea, who loaned him straight back out.
It’s so important to be playing games, which is where you probably learn more than anything.
Once you’ve worked on technical stuff with goalkeepers in training then the question is ‘can you transfer that into the games?’
Unless you’re getting games it’s very difficult to prove to someone that you can go in and play in their team. It sometimes just needs someone to be brave and give them a chance.
I picked up this Blog from the same site ,it appears he was highly rated by them
Promising, highly rated young keeper and childhood Spurs supporter who joined the Spurs academy as a full-time scholar in the 2005/2006 season at the age of 16 and has been out on loan 13 times.
Having signed a new contract until 2011 on 28 Dec 2007, he made his competitive debut in the 2007/08 season at the age of 18 with Grays Athletic in the Conference, having joined the club on a one-month loan deal on 10 Jan 2008. Although he made an impressive debut he was on the bench for the next game and there were no more games played over his loan spell. On 27 Mar 2008 he joined Rochdale in League Two however did not make an appearance, being on the subs bench seven times.
He joined four different clubs on loan in the 2008/09 season, firstly re-joining Grays Athletic, who were still in the Conference, initially for one month on 29 Sep 2008 but this was extended twice until the end of December, playing 15 games. Grays fans really rated him, calling him an excellent player with exactly the right attitude. He even wrote a letter to the Club Secretary thanking the club for giving him the opportunity to play first-team football.
On 16 Jan 2009 he joined AFC Bournemouth on a month's loan in League Two, making four appearances and two on the bench. Unfortunately the loan spell was not successful, with the Bournemouth fans happy to see the back of him as he made some bad mistakes, which lead to goals being conceded, including failing to control a backpass, conceding a looped header and diving over a shot. His loan was not extended but he joined League Two side Luton Town on 06 Mar 2009 on a month's loan as cover, being on the bench for all seven games, including a Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final victory. During this time he represented the England U-20 team, for the one and only time on 31 Mar 2009, in a friendly against Italy. His final loan spell of the season was an emergency one-month loan with Dagenham & Redbridge on 17 Apr 2009 where he played three of the four remaining games of the season, performing well and conceding just the one goal as Dagenham's first-choice keeper made a return for the final game. Daggers fans considered him a very promising young keeper, a decent shot stopper and the only part of his game that worried them was his ability at claiming a cross. Once again he wrote a letter to the club to thank everyone at Dagenham for his time there.
Having turned 20 he was ready for the 2009/10 campaign and it was announced on 22 Jul 2009 that he would join League Two club Crewe Alexandra until January, however he was recalled three games into the loan spell on 20 Aug 2009, to cover for the injured Heurelho Gomes who was out for two weeks. He was on the bench three times during this period and made his senior Spurs debut and only appearance so far, coming off the bench in the 81st minute of a Carling Cup tie against Doncaster Rovers on 26 Aug 2009 for Carlo Cudicini. He returned to Crewe on 01 Sep 2009 and played a further seven games for them before once again being recalled on 27 Oct 2009 to cover for the now injured Cudicini, making two appearances on the bench. Crewe boss Dario Gradi was not happy about this, stating he did not want a situation anymore where the man they are relying on in goal can be recalled at a moment's notice and declined to take the young stopper back again. Not much information is available on his peformances for Crewe but it seems to have been much more successful than his Bournemouth loan the season before.
On 20 Nov 2009 he joined League Two side Shrewsbury Town on a one-month loan spell which got extended twice to the end of the season. This was one of his most successful loan spells to date, playing 26 games and only being on the bench on three occasions and was only recalled a game before the end of the season due to an injury scare to Heurelho Gomes. Shrews fans were very impressed with him, saying how he was the best keeper they had since Joe Hart, possessing all-round talent, how communication was a big part of his game and that he was of at least Championship quality. Off the back of this, with only one year remaining on his contract, he was rewarded with a new contract at Spurs on 28 May 2010 until 2013.
As the 2010/11 season came along so did recently relegated League One side Plymouth Argyle on 03 Aug 2010 with a season-long loan. This spell was again mostly a success, even though Plymouth were relegated again, and has been the first and only season so far where he has spent time on loan at only one club. He made 30 appearances and a further seven on the bench with his spell being disrupted a couple of times by injuries (six weeks during Sep/Oct and five weeks during Nov/Dec) but everytime he was back from injury he was straight into the first XI. He did lose his place to Romain Larrieu on 26 Feb 2011 due to uncharacteristic errors behind a leaky and ever changing Plymouth defence during a series of defeats, until he won it back on 05 Apr 2011. During this time there was mutual respect between him and Larrieu, with the latter being full of praise about him for the way he performed during a difficult season for the Pilgrims, calling him positive and clued up and not reacting negatively at being dropped. Plymouth fans were delighted with him, saying how his goalkeeping skills and off the field personality had been top notch and that he really cared about the club.
In 2011/12 he joined a League One side again in Leyton Orient for half a season until 07 Jan 2012 but unfortunately suffered a shoulder injury in his second game which kept him out for the next 20 and didn't get back into the first XI when he finally recovered. He was however recalled 6 days early from his loan spell for a step up in division with Doncaster Rovers on 01 Jan 2012, initially for an emergency one month loan spell, which was extended for one more month. Although his loan spell was well-received with the fans, making 8 appearances in total, it did not get extended further as Rovers re-signed Wolves keeper Carl Ikeme on loan and veteran keeper Neil Sullivan was back to fitness. It turned out Rovers were reluctant to offer him an extension because emergency loan rules dictate that he could only have stayed at Doncaster for another month. On 19 Mar 2012 he joined Barnsley in an emergency one-month loan deal, to stand-in for second choice keeper David Preece however it turned out that first choice keeper Luke Steele had also suffered an injury and so he got to play in the last 9 games of the season, mainly to positive reviews.
Having last played for a Spurs XI side against Middlesbrough on 27 Jul 2012 he remains hopeful that he has a long-term future at Tottenham. He has been quoted as saying that if Spurs still have plans for him he would be delighted to stay, but if not, he will have to look elsewhere. He has known over the last couple of years that he hasn't been ready to play in the Tottenham first team, but feels he is gradually getting there. With Brad Friedel and Carlo Cudicini only having until 2013 on their contracts and getting older, he sees there will be an opportunity there for somebody.
Well we offered him a lower wage then he was already on as he was on crazy money for a league one player.
I thought semedo was on around 6k not much more than Paul Hayes was on so not that crazy and the fact we saw off championship teams to assemble our squad last season imo means last year we'd have had a few "on crazy money for a league one player"
Well i can only go on what i was told by a Sheffield based journalist who works with Wednesday very closely, he was told we offered Semedo a contract in line with are other players which was less then he was currently on at the time, due to the fact he would not be a sure starter and then Wednesday offered him a pay increase.
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Goalkeeping coach Tony Parks believes that Spurs’ future is in safe hands as he eyes the next generation of Tottenham custodians – and he is tipping David Button to challenge for the No1 jersey in the next few years.
David Button
With 41-year-old Brad Friedel and 38-year-old Carlo Cudicini approaching the end of their careers, the Lilywhites are on the look-out for long-term replacements.
A move for France’s Hugo Lloris has been mooted, but Tottenham chairman Daniel Levy is hoping that the club will also be able to develop their own players at their new state-of-the-art academy.
Having survived the change of management over the summer, Parks has been charged with the responsibility of nurturing the club’s emerging keepers – and he feels the future is bright.
Originally Posted by Tony Parks
We have a couple of younger lads who did particularly well last season
We certainly have a few lower down and we’ve got a few coming through from the ages of nine to 16 – we’re quite well equipped there.
We’ve got at least one who might be a future goalkeeper for us and I think we’re looking quite good.
Ben Alnwick, 25, Oscar Jansson, 21, and Mirko Ranieri, 20, were recently released but Scotland Under-21 keeper Jordan Archer has penned a new deal while 19-year-old Jonathan Miles has signed his first professional contract – and Parks has high hopes for Button.
The 23-year-old has been loaned to 12 different clubs since joining Tottenham’s academy in 2005-06, culminating in spells with Doncaster Rovers and Barnsley in the Championship earlier this year.
Originally Posted by Tony Parks
We’ve had David Button out on loan for the last couple of years,” said Parks.
He’s made steady progress from League Two, into League One and then into the Championship, so he would be one that we hold in high regard.
I think David’s technically a very good footballing goalkeeper. In the modern game you need to be decent with the ball at your feet, which he is.
He works really hard in the gym to make himself as strong as he possibly can, and he comes and deals with crosses.
Parks, who worked with Joe Hart during his time as an FA youth coach, says Spurs are taking their time to develop Button’s talents.
Originally Posted by Tony Parks
Physically, David’s probably developed a bit later than Joe Hart, but that’s starting to come now.
Some kids develop earlier and develop their strength earlier. David’s very tall – he’s 6ft 4ins.
He was a big, tall, skinny lad with not a lot of muscle power as a young kid, and sometimes you have to wait for that to come.
He goes into the gym and works on his strength and his power, and all of those attributes are now starting to pay dividends for him.
Whereas Joe was a man when he was about 20 years old, David’s probably had to wait until he was 22. People think ‘oh he’s 23’, but physically he was about 20 or 21.
Sometimes you just have to take that into consideration and make sure that the development programme is right for the player – where you place him, what level he plays at, what type of training he does – and over the last couple of years he’s done really well to finish last season as a Championship goalkeeper.
Hopefully we can get him out and playing in the Championship again next season and look forward to him hopefully moving on to become a Premier League goalie for Tottenham.
However, Parks believes that young English goalkeepers face an uphill struggle to make an impact in the top flight.
Originally Posted by Tony Parks
Joe had a lot of games as a young goalkeeper, which is really important.
That’s where he gained his experience. It’s something that English goalkeepers lack specifically - it’s very difficult for young English goalkeepers to break in.
The Premier League is so awash with finances, and it can attract the best from around the world – and the other factor is that most managers prefer goalkeepers who are a bit more mature.
But if you have a look around Europe at the moment, there are a lot of young goalies playing – there are probably half a dozen who are playing in the first team at the age of 18 or 19.
Look at the boy who won the Europa League with Atletico Madrid [Thibaut Courtois]. He’s another 20-year-old who’s been playing first-team football since he was about 17-and-a-half or 18 at Genk. Then he moved on to Chelsea, who loaned him straight back out.
It’s so important to be playing games, which is where you probably learn more than anything.
Once you’ve worked on technical stuff with goalkeepers in training then the question is ‘can you transfer that into the games?’
Unless you’re getting games it’s very difficult to prove to someone that you can go in and play in their team. It sometimes just needs someone to be brave and give them a chance.
Promising, highly rated young keeper and childhood Spurs supporter who joined the Spurs academy as a full-time scholar in the 2005/2006 season at the age of 16 and has been out on loan 13 times.
Having signed a new contract until 2011 on 28 Dec 2007, he made his competitive debut in the 2007/08 season at the age of 18 with Grays Athletic in the Conference, having joined the club on a one-month loan deal on 10 Jan 2008. Although he made an impressive debut he was on the bench for the next game and there were no more games played over his loan spell. On 27 Mar 2008 he joined Rochdale in League Two however did not make an appearance, being on the subs bench seven times.
He joined four different clubs on loan in the 2008/09 season, firstly re-joining Grays Athletic, who were still in the Conference, initially for one month on 29 Sep 2008 but this was extended twice until the end of December, playing 15 games. Grays fans really rated him, calling him an excellent player with exactly the right attitude. He even wrote a letter to the Club Secretary thanking the club for giving him the opportunity to play first-team football.
On 16 Jan 2009 he joined AFC Bournemouth on a month's loan in League Two, making four appearances and two on the bench. Unfortunately the loan spell was not successful, with the Bournemouth fans happy to see the back of him as he made some bad mistakes, which lead to goals being conceded, including failing to control a backpass, conceding a looped header and diving over a shot. His loan was not extended but he joined League Two side Luton Town on 06 Mar 2009 on a month's loan as cover, being on the bench for all seven games, including a Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final victory. During this time he represented the England U-20 team, for the one and only time on 31 Mar 2009, in a friendly against Italy. His final loan spell of the season was an emergency one-month loan with Dagenham & Redbridge on 17 Apr 2009 where he played three of the four remaining games of the season, performing well and conceding just the one goal as Dagenham's first-choice keeper made a return for the final game. Daggers fans considered him a very promising young keeper, a decent shot stopper and the only part of his game that worried them was his ability at claiming a cross. Once again he wrote a letter to the club to thank everyone at Dagenham for his time there.
Having turned 20 he was ready for the 2009/10 campaign and it was announced on 22 Jul 2009 that he would join League Two club Crewe Alexandra until January, however he was recalled three games into the loan spell on 20 Aug 2009, to cover for the injured Heurelho Gomes who was out for two weeks. He was on the bench three times during this period and made his senior Spurs debut and only appearance so far, coming off the bench in the 81st minute of a Carling Cup tie against Doncaster Rovers on 26 Aug 2009 for Carlo Cudicini. He returned to Crewe on 01 Sep 2009 and played a further seven games for them before once again being recalled on 27 Oct 2009 to cover for the now injured Cudicini, making two appearances on the bench. Crewe boss Dario Gradi was not happy about this, stating he did not want a situation anymore where the man they are relying on in goal can be recalled at a moment's notice and declined to take the young stopper back again. Not much information is available on his peformances for Crewe but it seems to have been much more successful than his Bournemouth loan the season before.
On 20 Nov 2009 he joined League Two side Shrewsbury Town on a one-month loan spell which got extended twice to the end of the season. This was one of his most successful loan spells to date, playing 26 games and only being on the bench on three occasions and was only recalled a game before the end of the season due to an injury scare to Heurelho Gomes. Shrews fans were very impressed with him, saying how he was the best keeper they had since Joe Hart, possessing all-round talent, how communication was a big part of his game and that he was of at least Championship quality. Off the back of this, with only one year remaining on his contract, he was rewarded with a new contract at Spurs on 28 May 2010 until 2013.
As the 2010/11 season came along so did recently relegated League One side Plymouth Argyle on 03 Aug 2010 with a season-long loan. This spell was again mostly a success, even though Plymouth were relegated again, and has been the first and only season so far where he has spent time on loan at only one club. He made 30 appearances and a further seven on the bench with his spell being disrupted a couple of times by injuries (six weeks during Sep/Oct and five weeks during Nov/Dec) but everytime he was back from injury he was straight into the first XI. He did lose his place to Romain Larrieu on 26 Feb 2011 due to uncharacteristic errors behind a leaky and ever changing Plymouth defence during a series of defeats, until he won it back on 05 Apr 2011. During this time there was mutual respect between him and Larrieu, with the latter being full of praise about him for the way he performed during a difficult season for the Pilgrims, calling him positive and clued up and not reacting negatively at being dropped. Plymouth fans were delighted with him, saying how his goalkeeping skills and off the field personality had been top notch and that he really cared about the club.
In 2011/12 he joined a League One side again in Leyton Orient for half a season until 07 Jan 2012 but unfortunately suffered a shoulder injury in his second game which kept him out for the next 20 and didn't get back into the first XI when he finally recovered. He was however recalled 6 days early from his loan spell for a step up in division with Doncaster Rovers on 01 Jan 2012, initially for an emergency one month loan spell, which was extended for one more month. Although his loan spell was well-received with the fans, making 8 appearances in total, it did not get extended further as Rovers re-signed Wolves keeper Carl Ikeme on loan and veteran keeper Neil Sullivan was back to fitness. It turned out Rovers were reluctant to offer him an extension because emergency loan rules dictate that he could only have stayed at Doncaster for another month. On 19 Mar 2012 he joined Barnsley in an emergency one-month loan deal, to stand-in for second choice keeper David Preece however it turned out that first choice keeper Luke Steele had also suffered an injury and so he got to play in the last 9 games of the season, mainly to positive reviews.
Having last played for a Spurs XI side against Middlesbrough on 27 Jul 2012 he remains hopeful that he has a long-term future at Tottenham. He has been quoted as saying that if Spurs still have plans for him he would be delighted to stay, but if not, he will have to look elsewhere. He has known over the last couple of years that he hasn't been ready to play in the Tottenham first team, but feels he is gradually getting there. With Brad Friedel and Carlo Cudicini only having until 2013 on their contracts and getting older, he sees there will be an opportunity there for somebody.